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All Forum Posts by: Kristine O.

Kristine O. has started 11 posts and replied 70 times.

Post: I dont need a Rude coach

Kristine O.
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Quote from @Richard Loniewski:

I enjoy helping out new investors, let me know if you want to connect and pick my brain a little, only cost you 20k (LOL, just kidding!) I'm also a lender if you need some help in that area as well

20k is not bad I guess when Im more experienced and need to expand the business.  As long as 20k but nice and reliable and trustworthy :) i’ll reach out to you next time thank you

Post: I dont need a Rude coach

Kristine O.
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Quote from @Katlynn Teague:
Quote from @Kristine O.:

I am upset to meet someone from Biggerpockets that I found to be rude. I recently posted in my forum about starting a team out of state specifically in San Antonio, tx. And this guy commented on my post. He also sent me a message. I was browsing his profile in BP but there’s not much activity. He has his own recorded youtube about him in his BP page that says he has been doing this for years that he does not only coach but he offers partnership with 100% financing from him. I decided to give him a call and I finally was able to talk to him. He said “tell me about yourself” and so i started telling about myself. In the middle he cut me out and said “so you reached out to me because you want a coach?” And i said yes. He started telling me what he does that hes not only a coach but a partner that he finances 100% of his deals blah blah and he said ‘it costs 15k to join our team is this what you want?’ And I said ‘well yeah i would like to learn but i dont have 15k’ and he sounded irritated cutting me again telling me ‘forget about the 15k Im asking you is this what you want?’ And of course i said well i want it but i don’t have that money and he asked again ‘is this what you want’ i just said ‘yes but not now’ and he just said ok thank you and we hung up. I’m like upset because Im trying to understand that most of the people here are experienced investors and I respect that you guys dont have time for any BS and would like to continue to invest but I don’t think there’s any need to be that aggressive if we newbies are undecided especially if it involves that big amount of money. We are not millionaires who have a lot of disposal money. We are not BSing either. If we have some amount to invest it’s from our hard work and we understand that there are risks involved in investing I just am not ready to pay 15k or installments to that amount for coaching yet. I would like to meet investors who are willing to be mentors who are a little kinder but with good intentions too. Good day all.


 Kristine, I am so sorry about that awful experience. 

If you're looking for a mentor, I would recommend going to your local meet-ups in your area! The best way to meet people is face-to-face. Not only that, these people are local to you, so instead of doing Zoom calls you can meet and be hands-on throughout the process! If you're looking for out-of-state, you can also call the local realtors in the area and let them know what you're looking for and see if they would be able to help! 

Thank you Katlynn.  Yes that’s on my list to do attend local meet ups and hoping to meet local investors who have a lot of experience investing in
out of state. 

Post: I dont need a Rude coach

Kristine O.
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Quote from @Quincy Jones:
Quote from @Kristine O.:

I am upset to meet someone from Biggerpockets that I found to be rude. I recently posted in my forum about starting a team out of state specifically in San Antonio, tx. And this guy commented on my post. He also sent me a message. I was browsing his profile in BP but there’s not much activity. He has his own recorded youtube about him in his BP page that says he has been doing this for years that he does not only coach but he offers partnership with 100% financing from him. I decided to give him a call and I finally was able to talk to him. He said “tell me about yourself” and so i started telling about myself. In the middle he cut me out and said “so you reached out to me because you want a coach?” And i said yes. He started telling me what he does that hes not only a coach but a partner that he finances 100% of his deals blah blah and he said ‘it costs 15k to join our team is this what you want?’ And I said ‘well yeah i would like to learn but i dont have 15k’ and he sounded irritated cutting me again telling me ‘forget about the 15k Im asking you is this what you want?’ And of course i said well i want it but i don’t have that money and he asked again ‘is this what you want’ i just said ‘yes but not now’ and he just said ok thank you and we hung up. I’m like upset because Im trying to understand that most of the people here are experienced investors and I respect that you guys dont have time for any BS and would like to continue to invest but I don’t think there’s any need to be that aggressive if we newbies are undecided especially if it involves that big amount of money. We are not millionaires who have a lot of disposal money. We are not BSing either. If we have some amount to invest it’s from our hard work and we understand that there are risks involved in investing I just am not ready to pay 15k or installments to that amount for coaching yet. I would like to meet investors who are willing to be mentors who are a little kinder but with good intentions too. Good day all.


 I mean Id agree with the other commenter. I am also new to this and I have yet to find anyone rude (fingers crossed) but Im having issues with loan officers ghosting me after they have my information. Most of these ppl are out for a quick buck and so they get jaded and crappy. Not an excuse to be that way especially when dealing with new people they should at least understand that people are learning and aren't experts. But in the future Id be weary of partnerships. I feel like unless you know them personally or they have a stellar reputation Id steer clear of them. 

Hope you find better people to connect to there are good people out there =)

Yes. I would expect that they have the right to turn down newbies to mentor but maybe be a little kind.  If he wants partnerships he should establish trust first.  But yeah like what other commenters here say he saved me money (even if I dont have that) and time :) 

Thank you.  And goodluck to your journey.  

Post: I dont need a Rude coach

Kristine O.
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Quote from @Danielle Davenport:

I hate hustlers/predators! You go get um girl! Everyone is out to make a buck off of someone else. Find someone who has done it and has lots of money and just wants to share their knowledge. But you must bring value to them, as well. 

Thank you Danielle.  Yes that’s true bring value is a must.  I just remembered my convo with this rude coach as he was explaining 100% financing from here etc.  and so I said ‘so what do you need me for?’ And he said ‘well I need boots on the ground’ and So i replied ‘do you need me to expand your market?’ And he said ‘yes’ .  Because he told me he was from Atlanta, Georgia and Im from LA.  And so I learned that even when I think that I have no value yet as a newbie that some investors need people to network too. But still not for 15k.  
so now im just looking to meet investors who made it and are willing to teach me some tips to level up too.  
have a great night and week ahead :) 

Post: I dont need a Rude coach

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Quote from @Mark Williams:
Quote from @Kristine O.:

I am upset to meet someone from Biggerpockets that I found to be rude. I recently posted in my forum about starting a team out of state specifically in San Antonio, tx. And this guy commented on my post. He also sent me a message. I was browsing his profile in BP but there’s not much activity. He has his own recorded youtube about him in his BP page that says he has been doing this for years that he does not only coach but he offers partnership with 100% financing from him. I decided to give him a call and I finally was able to talk to him. He said “tell me about yourself” and so i started telling about myself. In the middle he cut me out and said “so you reached out to me because you want a coach?” And i said yes. He started telling me what he does that hes not only a coach but a partner that he finances 100% of his deals blah blah and he said ‘it costs 15k to join our team is this what you want?’ And I said ‘well yeah i would like to learn but i dont have 15k’ and he sounded irritated cutting me again telling me ‘forget about the 15k Im asking you is this what you want?’ And of course i said well i want it but i don’t have that money and he asked again ‘is this what you want’ i just said ‘yes but not now’ and he just said ok thank you and we hung up. I’m like upset because Im trying to understand that most of the people here are experienced investors and I respect that you guys dont have time for any BS and would like to continue to invest but I don’t think there’s any need to be that aggressive if we newbies are undecided especially if it involves that big amount of money. We are not millionaires who have a lot of disposal money. We are not BSing either. If we have some amount to invest it’s from our hard work and we understand that there are risks involved in investing I just am not ready to pay 15k or installments to that amount for coaching yet. I would like to meet investors who are willing to be mentors who are a little kinder but with good intentions too. Good day all.


Hi Kristine, 
I'm sorry to hear about your negative experience but don't let it discourage you. Finding the right mentor or partner is crucial, and it's essential to work with someone who respects your situation and goals. Many experienced investors are willing to offer guidance and support without the hefty price tag. Keep searching, and you'll find a mentor who aligns with your needs and values. Stay determined, and you'll find the right path to your real estate investing journey. Good luck!
Thank you Mark.  I’m just starting out and I’ll most likely experience worse experience than this.  Hopefully not. Nevertheless, i’m so excited to start in my journey and learn as I go. 

Post: I dont need a Rude coach

Kristine O.
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Quote from @Timothy Howdeshell:
Quote from @Kristine O.:

I am upset to meet someone from Biggerpockets that I found to be rude. I recently posted in my forum about starting a team out of state specifically in San Antonio, tx. And this guy commented on my post. He also sent me a message. I was browsing his profile in BP but there’s not much activity. He has his own recorded youtube about him in his BP page that says he has been doing this for years that he does not only coach but he offers partnership with 100% financing from him. I decided to give him a call and I finally was able to talk to him. He said “tell me about yourself” and so i started telling about myself. In the middle he cut me out and said “so you reached out to me because you want a coach?” And i said yes. He started telling me what he does that hes not only a coach but a partner that he finances 100% of his deals blah blah and he said ‘it costs 15k to join our team is this what you want?’ And I said ‘well yeah i would like to learn but i dont have 15k’ and he sounded irritated cutting me again telling me ‘forget about the 15k Im asking you is this what you want?’ And of course i said well i want it but i don’t have that money and he asked again ‘is this what you want’ i just said ‘yes but not now’ and he just said ok thank you and we hung up. I’m like upset because Im trying to understand that most of the people here are experienced investors and I respect that you guys dont have time for any BS and would like to continue to invest but I don’t think there’s any need to be that aggressive if we newbies are undecided especially if it involves that big amount of money. We are not millionaires who have a lot of disposal money. We are not BSing either. If we have some amount to invest it’s from our hard work and we understand that there are risks involved in investing I just am not ready to pay 15k or installments to that amount for coaching yet. I would like to meet investors who are willing to be mentors who are a little kinder but with good intentions too. Good day all.


 Hey Kristine, 

I'm sorry that you had this experience, but it sounds like a positive one and also a great learning opportunity. It stood out to me that you said, "...I’m like upset because Im trying to understand that most of the people here are experienced investors and I respect that you guys dont have time for any BS...".

It comes across as putting others on a pedestal. Sure there are some people that are business geniuses, but they're very few and far between. And I also get that you may not be very confident just starting out, but you have value and worth and can learn to be just as good as anyone else. Most of us here are just persistent dummies, figuring it out and making it up as we go along like anyone else. I find this mentality more empowering than believing that there special people. Now there are more experienced people who may be short on time, but don't let one person get to you like that. In this business you deal with a lot of rejection, and just because 1 person/experience is bad doesn't mean that all are. As you go on your journey you're going to need to talk to many people, most of whom won't be a good fit. It's like dating, you have to kiss a lot of frogs. This comes up over and over again. Want to find a good lender? Need to talk to 15. Need a good partner? Meet 100 people and have deep convos. Etc. Trying to source discounted properties where you can "buy right"? Hundreds of convos and touch points. Some people are rude, or having a bad day. Water off of a ducks back. You're already great and getting better every day! 

As far as this coach is concerned, you hit the jackpot. This person wasn't a personality fit for you (and/or not a business fit), but you learned this after 1 short call. Imagine if you'd have paid $15k only to later learn this fact. A quick no is a win. It frees you up to find the yes. As someone who has paid for coaching multiple times before, there are good people and programs out there. Don't get discouraged. 

To re-cap, here are the lessons:

1. Most deals, people, and things are a bad fit for you. 

2. Rejection is normal and not to be taken personally. 

3. Getting to no quickly is ideal as it saves your most valuable resource, time. 

4. We all started somewhere. What one person can do, another can do. There are no special people. 

I hope that helps. This community is very helpful and kind, but not everyone in it is. You've got this! 

Hi Timothy,

yes lessons learned and yes I have to make sure I don’t take things personal especially with rejections.  I have learned that successful people are very persistent and focused no matter what rejections and challenges they come across.  
I appreciate your response.  Thank you.  Have a great weekend :) 


Post: I dont need a Rude coach

Kristine O.
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Quote from @Tom O.:

I'm about to save you $14,970. Go take $30 and buy David Lindahl's brilliant book Multi-Unit Millions. There. Now you have a coach. If you have any questions, you can hit me up anytime. GRATIS. I am not rude but I do get a little cranky sometimes. But would you put up with a cranky coach who is free? 

I'm not the greatest expert here. I'm sure there's others who are better. I'm at 4 buildings, 25 doors. 

Hi Tom.  I’ll check out that book thank you.  I guess I can go with a cranky free coach.  I was looking at midwest a few weeks ago and even planning to meet an agent from there.  I’ll rwcah out soon.  Thank you. 

Post: I dont need a Rude coach

Kristine O.
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Quote from @Craig Janet:

This guy did you a favor, his rudeness saved you 15K. This was most likely a scam.

You got it right haha.  Looking back That made it easier on my part to say No whether or not I have 15k instead of meeting some charismatic gurus but with the same intention of scamming a newbie. 

Post: I dont need a Rude coach

Kristine O.
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Quote from @Scott Trench:

Kristine - I would take that $15K and use it to actually invest in real estate. If you want to spend money on education, I'd suggest you spend 1/1000th of that amount and purchase one of the BiggerPockets books, which will likely be a primer that is just as good. 

Or if you want to go big, you can likely get extreme value spending 1/100th of that amount, by attending a free local meetup in your area, and spend $150 over the next several weeks purchasing coffee/beer for 5-10 or so of the successful real estate investors who are likely more than happy to share what they are doing and why with an up and comer in the space in 1:1 sessions that may go for an hour or more.

Real estate investors often love to share their experiences and talk about their favorite subjects. Especially the folks you meet here on BP. 

Hi Scott,

yes i will take time to read one of the books that I purchased in BP.  So far Im so into listening to the podcast since my commute to work is long and that’s how I take advantage of the time I have.  
I will check out local meetups soon so I can get more comfortable meeting investors who are willing to share their tips.  Thank you. 

Post: I dont need a Rude coach

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Quote from @Aaron Francl:

Hey Kristine, 

I think you've already found out an important lesson, and you got it for free - and that is there's no quick and easy way to become an investor overnight. Anyone selling you that bag of goods...you did the right thing. 

As you found out, there are those out there that take advantage of new folks' lack of knowledge and try to profit from it with a quick and easy solution. I know when I started out the idea of investing felt very overwhelming and I know that can be the case for a lot of folks. That being said, the truth is most investors I know and work with are self-educated mostly via books, podcasts, meetups, networking, etc. That can absolutely be the case for you too so please don't let this discourage you or extinguish your fire early. 

You're in the right place (BP forums) and doing the right things (posting and interacting with the community) so feel good about that and continue to push yourself to take incremental steps.  

If you'd like to connect on San Antonio specifically, feel free to reach out! 

That is why I continue to listen to BP podcast and Real Estate Rookie because I learn a lot from other people’s journey.  I have taken action too at my own risk level.  I am closing on a property in San Antonio.  Hopefully it goes well but I  would love to meet more experienced agents, investors in the area.  Will reach out soon. Thank you.