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All Forum Posts by: Kristi Kandel

Kristi Kandel has started 46 posts and replied 336 times.

Post: How to sell backyard to developer and keep front house? Partition? Lease? JV?

Kristi Kandel
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  • Fort Myers Beach, FL
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Quote from @JP Leonard:

Looking for advice from experienced legal minds here 
We own a multi-family zoned lot which we originally bought intending to add a couple units in the back.
Lacking the capital and building experience to develop it ourselves, we want to offer the backyard as a "Developer Special" on the MLS.
We’d rather not risk demolishing our home at the front of the lot. It might not even be worth it at this time. We’d rather not even put it up as collateral on the construction loan.

So far I have a couple ideas how to separate the back yard for sale.
* A “voluntary partition” where buyer and seller agree that each one has exclusive rights to a part of the property. According to https://partition.uslegal.com/voluntary-partitionhttps://par...
“The co-owners may effect voluntary partition in any manner they agree upon. … Usually, a voluntary partition is effected by mutual conveyance or release executed by all owners. A written agreement is valid and need not be formalized by a deed.”
* Some kind of joint venture or common interest development. This could also be a vehicle for other investors to take a share of equity.
* One party owns the entire property and the other has a long leasehold.

(I'm told the lot can't be subdivided because the rear parcel would would need a street frontage, rather than alley access. The new California laws on backyard development, SB9 and AB1033, apply to single family zones and ADUs, not apartments in a multifamily zone. A partition agreement might allow mutual access easements to avoid the appearance of a subdivision.)


 @jp is your land in SD? Might be worth talking to this group and seeing if they might be interested in a collaboration. 

https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-andrew-hines-real-...

Post: RE Development Course?

Kristi Kandel
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  • Fort Myers Beach, FL
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Quote from @Ed O.:

@Kristi Kandel

I was just letting this person know the reality of their situation. Most developers, it seems,  share nothing. 

I think it's a balance. We all started with no knowledge in our areas. A lot of people forget that. 

I'd be curious to check out some of your content when it comes out - pretty interesting stuff!

@ed 100% most developers don’t share. I don’t think it’s necessarily to keep others out just that there are so many nuances that most developers only know their specific market and niche and don’t have broad exposure. 

I now realize how lucky I was to gain the vast exposure and experience I gained early in my career. It didn’t feel lucky during my 60-80 hour weeks and while I made my company a ton of money they certainly didn’t share it with me. However the experience is why I was able to start my own company 9 years ago and now why I’m passionate about sharing and teaching others. 

Post: RE Development Course?

Kristi Kandel
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Quote from @Ed O.:

So much of learning development is understanding the specifics within your own market. The requirements and codes vary a lot. Find the area you want to learn the most about and visit with their planning and development department. Cold call developers in your market as well as companies that provide infrastructure work. Be prepared to buy them as many nice lunches as your wallet can handle. 

Working within this segment would also be a great way to learn. 

A lot of developers don't want you (or any potential competitors) to know their trade secrets and efficiencies, which they've taken years and maybe decades to master..... It's not easy to get a lot of them to talk much to an outsider.....

@Ed O. that’s exactly why I created our courses. I got so tired with our industry keeping people out when there are more than enough projects for everyone.

I’ve developed hundreds of CVS and family dollar stores across the US along with the shopping centers, industrial parks, and housing.  Most in California. 


our small and medium communities are being left behind bc it takes too much time and energy to get to know every market and the returns the big guys need don’t work in tertiary markets. 

Why not empower our local real estate developers to transform underutilized properties in their communities (that they know so well) into awesome community assets that benefit all. 

Post: RE Development Course?

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  • Fort Myers Beach, FL
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Quote from @Zander Kempf:

I have a friend who's done a handful of multifamily deals and wants to start doing real estate development. I don't want to recommend the college courses because I don't think they will have enough practical information in them. I know doing deals is the best way to get experience, but does anyone know of a good education resource?

@Zander Kempf I just finished creating our starter course because there are good options out there that aren’t about institutional planning and development. Those are good for the basics but not for practical every day people applications. Our full course will be completed by the end of Q2 and will take people from inception through the final exit strategy.

I’ve been a real estate developer the past 17 years. A majority of my career was in Florida and I’ve owned a development and consulting company since 2015. 

Our mission is to empower local entrepreneurs and investors to transform underutilized properties into awesome community assets that benefit all.

If you send me a DM I can share more about our courses and free webinars. We have another free webinar coming up 5/15 too.

    Post: Real Estate Development

    Kristi Kandel
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    @Kenan Dunst-Fox research the developers doing projects that interest you in your area. Reach out to them and let them know you want to be an intern for a summer. Add value to them while getting exposure to development. Even if it’s unpaid the experience is well worth the time investment. 

    Post: How to know when to Sell or Hold or Develop on property?

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    @Kirk M. hey Kirk!

    I’ve been a developer for 17 years and we have worked in hundreds of municipalities  in CA. 

    To start you’ll want to verify the information the broker is telling you with the city/county.  

    Once you know what’s possible then you’d likely want to evaluate affordable housing grants, tax credits, tax incentives, etc. 

    There might be an option for you to partner with a developer to stay in the deal since you own the dirt. 

    If you’d like to talk more shoot me a DM and we can connect! 


    Post: Need Construction Loan - building my first 3-flat!!

    Kristi Kandel
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    Quote from @Roseann Koefoed:

    I'm building a 3-flat in East Garfield Park, west side neighborhood of Chicago.  I own about 80 MF units, but this is my first ground up construction.  I have a partner who is the GC.  I've paid for the land, architect/permit fees, excavation and foundation out of pocket.  But I'm looking for a $500k loan to finish the project.

    This will likely be the first of many.  About to go under contact on a second lot in the same area.  So looking for a lending partner that will help me grow as efficiently as possible.

    Also would love to connect with anyone doing something similar or with any development wisdom to share.  Thank you!

    @Roseann Koefoed first congratulations! 

    I’d recommend getting terms from private and hard money lenders. Likely 5-8 companies that UW loans in this market. 

    You can also try regional banks to get the construction and stabilized loan terms. 

    Make sure you have a backup plan (contingencies) for if/when obstacles arise and you’re required to spend more money and possible more time (3-6 months) to the overall project. 

    For your first ground up it might make sense to bring in your contractor as an equity partner building the project at cost in exchange for equity. That way they truly care about the project’s outcome (time and money) and are your partner helping you solve the challenges that will inevitably arise during construction.


    Taking a smaller piece of the pie to gain experience can go a long way in the bigger picture. 

    Post: I’m interested in a Commercial building

    Kristi Kandel
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    Quote from @Nick Camizzi:

    Hey everyone I have a question and would like to get other people’s feedback. I went on the States website where they sell state owned properties, I found a +19ac with an old Prison that was built in 1994. It’s across the street from the new prison unfortunately. But I was figuring I can make that a big storage facility after doing some construction. It is out in the country so it’s surrounded by farm land so idk if a storage facility is worth it. Maybe remodel it keep it a prison & lease back to state for detention overpopulation. These are just thoughts. What do you guys & women think? TIA all opinions welcome 


    I’d start with talking to the planning department of that municipality to see what the property is zoned for and what the allowed uses are in that zoning. 

    Then speak with the planner to see what types of businesses / buildings they think are a good fit for the property based on the master plan for the area. 

    I’d probably also speak to some brokers about what they think could work well at that property. You might have a challenge with tenants/customers feeling uncomfortable next to a prison so getting the local insights might be valuable to you as well. 

    Post: Main Street Commercial Space: Other Uses?

    Kristi Kandel
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    Quote from @Cory St. Esprit:

    I have a main street commercial unit in Butler, PA. The tenant moved out and we have it listed for rent. It was a brewery, then it was most recently a thrift shop. It's about 2,000 sq.ft of space, open ceiling, couple of bathrooms, etc. Wondering what, if anything, I could do to spruce up the place to make it more attractive to a potential tenant OR if there are ideas of what I could personally do to it that would create some nice cash flow for me (co-working spaces, etc.). There's 3 floors of old apartments upstairs we have an architect working on a plan right now. Rental listing available here.

    We are looking at several mixed-use projects right now. I’d suggest talking to the city to see what the zoning allows for from a use and density standpoint. Also speak with the economic dept, Chamber, and any business incubators in the area. They are all going to have insights on the existing businesses that might want to grow/move spaces, types of businesses looking for spaces, and the need of the area. 

    Housing is always a plus and depending on the location the city might be willing to reduce required parking for the location depending on the circumstances, street parking, or walkable public lots. 

    When you work in partnership with the city you can see if they have economic grants, TIFs, etc. to help offset the remodel costs to both the commercial space and the residential. See if there are county or state programs to help with housing as well. MI and OH have quite a few programs in all of these areas.  

    Post: First Commercial Real Estate Investing - Gas Station

    Kristi Kandel
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    Quote from @Sumit Verma:
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    I have many friends worked in convivences stores and gas stations by running the finances of the business I'm interested in purchasing a gas station. Hypothetically here is the situation. Let me know if it is possible or not, and in both cases what would be the requirements? 

    Business cost - $1M
    Net Assessed Value - $700k (land + building)

    Looking for 900k, with 30 years of financing, no balloon payment.

    This would be my first CRE, I would run and manage the business by myself.

    Thank you for your time!


     What state are you buying in? I work with hundreds of gas station owners and operators each year. We are building Hydrogen Fueling stations in CA and we lease land from the gas station owners. 

    Some are the operators of the business only, Some own the dirt only and ground lease to the operators, and some are both. Your systems and processes will make or break you. Most operators end up living at the store and working long days and weeks UNLESS they have multiple gas stations and can leverage that scale for operations. 

    When it comes to environmental check to see if the property has a NFA (no further action) letter. That means that the prior leaks and soil/groundwater contamination have already been taken care of. 


    Check to see where the owner is at on updating / replacing old UG tanks that need to be replaced with current standards. Those costs to both shut down the biz to upgrade/replace and the cost of doing the work are huge capital costs. 

    Separately, lots of AHJs in CA are banning the building of new gas stations. CA is going to be extreme and the rest of the states are likely 10-15 years behind those initiatives. That being said, what is your long game and how would you handle gas being phase out and how would your business pivot? 

    Thank you for your response Kristi!

    Currently I am only looking into midwest. You are right CA is way ahead comparing to other states. I will take a look into NFA for sure. Its not being too long since the tanks are being replaced.

    I believe most gas stations profit comes from the inside sales. When you say long term game, I will keep the gas stations (it will take long to completely wipe out gas phase) with a potential to stream into multiple different source of income. But that's all subjective to how much capital I can build upon.

     I would agree the Midwest will take the longest to change types of energy. Depending on the operator the inside sales can drastically beat out gas sales. I’ve seen many people get creative offering many projects like car washes, propane, u haul rentals, food, etc. It’s very hands on for most owners (high turnover employees  and employees stealing bc of cash sales) so as long as that’s something you’re willing to do it’s likely a great option for you. 

    I do have a great plan to move forward with, it's the execution of the initial plan that's taking me long but, it is giving me more time. I have 2 more friends with me, we recently graduated from university and after seen the current market for the jobs we have decided to move forward with this and we have plans to be low cost creative by our food, offers and social media.

    Currently I have no plan for the employees as I will be running and managing the store by myself. With only exception being allowing my friends to work couple days.

    I am visiting banks to get some more information for how much investment I can secure with my situation once that is done I will actively engage in find the right business to acquire. Should you know of any lender please let me know.

    Thank you!

     That sounds like a great plan to get started out of school. Your lenders will be very helpful in helping you underwrite the deal and develop a biz plan. That will be key to operational success.

    You might consider asking the owner to seller finance part of the deal and also stay on for a transition period to help show you the ropes. Even if you’re going to change up operations getting those lessons learned from the current operator will help you a lot. 

    Thank you!

    I am having hard time trusting the business that are already on the market for sell. Just because you never know the actual reason of the sell of the business. The business I am interested is not in the market and I strongly believe that if I make the owner an offer he would most likely accept it (based on the previous business he sold) 
     
    My plan is to do enough research on the location that I am actually interested in. I have contacted and spoken to the operators already regarding the current business conditions. I would send an mail to the owner's address to invite him to make the deal.

    Owner's finance probably won't be an option in this case. Is there any thing you would suggest about where to find lenders or any information I should know before talking to banks?

    @Sumit Verma ASK all the questions. The lenders can be your best friend and shop it around to a lot of lenders. This is a more risky asset for many lenders and this being your first biz? Learn as much as you can and don’t discount this process as education for the future  even if you don’t close