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All Forum Posts by: Kristi Kandel

Kristi Kandel has started 46 posts and replied 338 times.

Post: Build-to-Rent with Civil Engineering Degree

Kristi Kandel
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  • Fort Myers Beach, FL
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Quote from @David Bohn:
Quote from @Jamie Hora:

I'm a civil engineer and I agree with the good insight from Robert. 

If you're wanting to save on a cost, then yes, you can be the one to stamp the plans. However, it should be something you're competent in. For example, I've been licensed for 7 years but I've never worked on houses, so I personally would not draw up plans for a house or "stamp" plans that someone else provided. 

I have lots of experience on projects that involve rezoning, platting, understanding City approvals/permitting, but that aspect you will not learn in any college courses, and nor does a Civil Engineering degree help with. Navigating these processes can be learned through experience and just by digging into the details.  There is a part of the entitlement process that will include review by lawyers also. 

Civil engineering becomes larger part of the project as the projects grow in size. With a engineering license, yes you can be the one be the developer and civil engineer if you wish to wear both hats. Alternatively, the education & experience can give you better footing to manage/understand the civil engineers if you choose to hire out that work. 


 Agreed.  I've been fortunate to wear both hats as a civil engineer and developer as well.  My experience and network has helped me formulate and hone in my expertise in the development process, while at the same time giving me insight to where future developments are heading and areas that could be most developmentally advantageous.   This gives me a significant headstart over other developers / builders in my market areas.

While it's true, you won't typically learn much about zoning code, permitting processes, etc. through your degree, however you should gain this experience through your career.  The only aspect that I may contradict what's being said in this thread is that I strongly believe a civil engineer being involved in the entitlement / zoning procedures is imperative.  Although much of the decision making is based on concepts and attractive sketches / exhibits, the engineer is who makes it all work.  Nothing worse than getting a conceptual site plan re-approved because it doesn't function.

As far as cost control, unfortunately the civil typically only controls the cost of his/her fee, but you will have other consultants that will be part of the process - surveyor, geotech, environmental engineer, architect, landscape architect, planner, attorney, etc.  You could work on your network to see if these consultants would work on sweat equity with you to save you on cost.

The real worth is what you bring to the table - experience in the process, expertise in the market, and potentially a network that can make you successful.  Hope that helps.

 @David Bohn depending on the market and project the elevations aren't the most important component and we use civil engineers to lead our zoning process in conjunction with our team. Parts of FL the civil is much more important to site layouts and designs based on horizontal constraints. But predominantly the architect has been the lead across most of the country. 

Since we are also entitlement experts we lead the process with our team and include architects, engineers, contractors, and sometimes other consultants in the zoning process to make sure that we know the full ramifications (time, cost, etc.) of any site layout / design requirements of the AHJ during entitlements so that we don't agree to aspects that are prohibitive to the overall project feasibility. 

Post: Water, Gas, & Power: Essential Utility Hookups for Ground-Up Projects!

Kristi Kandel
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  • Fort Myers Beach, FL
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Quote from @Roland S.:

For real estate investors, developers, and flippers, utility hookups can feel like a behind-the-scenes nuisance—until they delay your entire project. Whether you’re breaking ground on a new build or rehabbing a property with outdated infrastructure, navigating utility connections for water, sewer, electricity, and gas is critical to staying on schedule and within budget. Here’s how to get ahead of the game:

🕒 1. Start Early

📞 Call utility providers before closing. Utility installations often take 30–90 days and may require site plans, permits, and scheduling coordination. Early planning avoids costly downtime.

🧭 2. Know Your Jurisdiction

🏙️ Are you within city limits, a MUD (Municipal Utility District), or a rural co-op? Each has different rules, processes, and timelines. Call the planning office or look up GIS maps to verify.

💸 3. Budget for Fees

Fees vary wildly, but here’s what to expect:

💧 Water/Sewer Tap: $2,000–$10,000+

⚡ Electrical Service: $1,000–$5,000+

🔥 Gas Line Setup: ~$1,000+

Also factor in trenching, easement costs, or service line extensions. Always build a buffer into your rehab or development budget.

🛠️ 4. Coordinate with Your GC

👷 Your General Contractor should know the utility layout and schedule stub-outs early—especially before pouring foundation.

💡 Delays here often cause knock-on effects with inspections and progress milestones.

📄 5. Track the Permits

📝 Utility hookups often require separate permits, trench inspections, and 811 Call Before You Dig coordination. A missed permit or failed inspection can freeze your jobsite for weeks.

💼 Consider hiring a permit expediter if the municipality is slow or hard to navigate.

💡 Bottom Line:

Utility planning isn’t glamorous—but it can save you weeks of delay and thousands in carrying costs. If you’re a developer, flipper, or investor doing ground-up builds or heavy rehabs, include utility coordination in your due diligence checklist from day one. Check with your private money lender to see if they can offer any valuable insights for you!

@Roland S. we have a dry utility division at my company to help developers and tenants on the west coast get power, gas, and telecom to their projects. It can take just as long to get final designs and contracts as it does to get entitlements and permits in CA. 

Post: Chattanooga Development Opportunity

Kristi Kandel
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  • Fort Myers Beach, FL
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Quote from @Joseph Stern:
Quote from @Kristi Kandel:
Quote from @Joseph Stern:

I currently have 10 acres under contract in Chattanooga that can be developed into apartments or mixed use commercial. I live in Tampa and I'm looking to JV with a developer in Chattanooga, I can offer favorable terms as well as a commission to a realtor that can connect us. Feel free to comment or message me if you know someone who may be interested.

@Joseph Stern What made you put it under contract? What part of the development process do you have expertise in and what expertise are you looking for from your development partner?


Actually because I buy mobile home parks, so I put a mobile home park under contract in the same area and the owner mentioned he owns some land down the road as well that can be developed and gave me pretty favorable terms and price on it so I am exploring my options if it makes sense to close on the land as well or just the park. I am new to development but not to construction, I'm a GC in Tampa but I don't do any ground up projects. That is why I'm looking for a developer to JV on the deal with.

@Joseph Stern ahhh gotcha. That makes sense and is typically how we "find" extra land in markets we are doing projects. It seems you have the zoning / possible uses identified so the next step would be to engage the local brokers to see what the market actually needs on that land and what the tenants are willing to pay. That will determine if apts or mixed use (or a combo)  are the highest and best use for the land. 

Post: Chattanooga Development Opportunity

Kristi Kandel
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  • Fort Myers Beach, FL
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Quote from @Joseph Stern:

I currently have 10 acres under contract in Chattanooga that can be developed into apartments or mixed use commercial. I live in Tampa and I'm looking to JV with a developer in Chattanooga, I can offer favorable terms as well as a commission to a realtor that can connect us. Feel free to comment or message me if you know someone who may be interested.

@Joseph Stern What made you put it under contract? What part of the development process do you have expertise in and what expertise are you looking for from your development partner?

Post: Development Advice, Ideas & strategies.

Kristi Kandel
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  • Fort Myers Beach, FL
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Quote from @Sara Delilah:

Thanks so much for the very useful information.  I've engaged a broker and see where things lead me.  Thanks for your time, I really appreciate it.

 @Sara Delilah no problem! If you have more questions after digging in with the broker more don't hesitate to reach out! 

Post: Development Advice, Ideas & strategies.

Kristi Kandel
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Quote from @Sara Delilah:

Thanks for your reply.  This is commercial zoning.  You can open shopping centers, office buildings, restaurant, business and entertainment venues.  The only problem is the area needs investment and developement. 

 @Sara Delilah awesome then it seems like you've go several commercial options. Typically at this phase we'd then engage both a broker to see their recommendations for the best types of tenants and uses that the specific area needs and that the locals would support. If you're local then likely you'll have your own insights too for places to live, work, and play. At the same time we'd be engaging an architect who specializes in commercial/retail uses so that we could get an idea of the size of building(s) that could fit on the lot based on the zoning regulations. Then we'd also be talking with commercial banks (local/regional) to see who lends on development projects and what their terms/parameters are. 

I'd also see what grants, tax incentives, etc. the city & county might have access to since it sounds like the area needs revitalized and typically municipalities are trying to find people to help on the private side by redeveloping properties so they offer incentives. 

Post: Development Advice, Ideas & strategies.

Kristi Kandel
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  • Fort Myers Beach, FL
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Quote from @Sara Delilah:

Hi everyone,

I own a boutique motel with surrounding land that I’d love to develop to enhance its appeal and attract more business. I’m looking for an experienced real estate developer who can provide insights and ideas on how best to utilize the space.

Additionally, there’s a small commercial property next to the motel, currently vacant, but I’m unsure about the best approach to renting it out to a business. Before moving forward, I’d like a clear strategy for maximizing the potential of both the land and the property.

I’d love to hear any suggestions, and I’m also open to partnering with an investor who has experience in development and growth strategies. If you have any advice or know someone who could help, please reach out!

Thanks in advance!

 @Sara Delilah Start by calling the zoning/planning department at the city. Ask them what the property is zoned and what the allowed uses are. From there you'll be able to determine what could fit based on what's allowed and what's missing/needed in that market. 

Post: The Real Estate Pessimist Podcast (Looking for Guests)

Kristi Kandel
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Hey all!

We’ve recorded 18 Episodes on our pod so far and are having a blast with this project.
The Real Estate Pessimist:
The good, bad, and the TRUTH about real estate investing!

If anyone would like to be a guest you can fill out this form: https://forms.gle/6eA19gAby6oMSDe78

Checkout the released episodes here: https://www.youtube.com/@TheRealEstatePessimist/videos The RE Pessimist YouTube Channel

Post: Garage to ADU conversion?

Kristi Kandel
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  • Fort Myers Beach, FL
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Quote from @Adam Watanabe:

Hi there! My wife and I recently purchased a single family home with a detached ADU outside the Sacramento, CA area. We just started medium-term renting the ADU through Furnished Finder and it's been an incredible experience. We barely notice our tenant and his rent covers about half of our mortgage. You might say I'm a little hooked and am considering other real estate investments. One idea would be to convert our attached 450 sq ft garage into an ADU to rent. It would cost around $100-120K and could rent for around $2K a month. This would be nearing the 2% rule which seems pretty good especially in today's market. Not to mention, we would be building equity into our house and it would cover the other half of the mortgage.

The other option would be to look for a property to purchase out of state to BRRRR. I would most likely try to find a multi-family to update, then hire a property manager to takeover. I wouldn't get near the rate of return as I would on the ADU, but I would be diversifying my housing investments.

Thoughts and comments would be much appreciated. Thank you!

 @Adam Watanabe I finished converting a garage that the seller got halfway. It's a cash cow and I intend on keeping the property for a long time. That being said, the way I set it up was that a future buyer could fairly easily turn it back into a SFH (no garage but easily just a larger home). One downside is that no matter house much insulation, carpets with pads, furring walls out more, etc. we do you're going to hear your neighbors to some extent. I love house hacking so I wouldn't take it back but something to consider.

Post: Create a Dynamic Real Estate estate Team

Kristi Kandel
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  • Fort Myers Beach, FL
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Quote from @Patrice Westbrooks:

This would be my first build. I have a seller who is right now seeking to rezone this lot to accommodate two Duplexes, so I'm waiting on the outcome. If course, I am building my team simultaneously so that I'm equipped and ready for demo, as soon as the contract is closed. My goal is to get the lot, seek No Doc financing for the balance of the seller-financed portion, then proceed without any liens or barriers. 

Plan B is if he doesn't get the desired rezoning, I'm ready to pivot to 1 Duplex and an ADU . I've ran the numbers both ways and I'm confident that this can be a win-win for all of us. I have done some due diligence within the scope and nature of my circumstances, therefore protecting my fiscal responsibility is paramount. Would you be interested in learn more?

 @Patrice Westbrooks based on what you're looking to do I bet there are other people in the town doing something similar. You could reverse engineer it by seeing who they are using for their team to design the ADU/duplexes (architects/engineers) and potentially lenders. I wouldn't hesitate to call the people building them already direct. In Southern CA there are so many going up that some people I know have started companies specifically to help others build ADUs and go through the design and permitting process. The financing is likely going to be the toughest part right now based on the market like Jaycee pointed out.