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All Forum Posts by: Kristi Kandel

Kristi Kandel has started 46 posts and replied 334 times.

Post: Development Advice, Ideas & strategies.

Kristi Kandel
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  • Fort Myers Beach, FL
  • Posts 356
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Quote from @Sara Delilah:

Thanks so much for the very useful information.  I've engaged a broker and see where things lead me.  Thanks for your time, I really appreciate it.

 @Sara Delilah no problem! If you have more questions after digging in with the broker more don't hesitate to reach out! 

Post: Development Advice, Ideas & strategies.

Kristi Kandel
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  • Developer
  • Fort Myers Beach, FL
  • Posts 356
  • Votes 182
Quote from @Sara Delilah:

Thanks for your reply.  This is commercial zoning.  You can open shopping centers, office buildings, restaurant, business and entertainment venues.  The only problem is the area needs investment and developement. 

 @Sara Delilah awesome then it seems like you've go several commercial options. Typically at this phase we'd then engage both a broker to see their recommendations for the best types of tenants and uses that the specific area needs and that the locals would support. If you're local then likely you'll have your own insights too for places to live, work, and play. At the same time we'd be engaging an architect who specializes in commercial/retail uses so that we could get an idea of the size of building(s) that could fit on the lot based on the zoning regulations. Then we'd also be talking with commercial banks (local/regional) to see who lends on development projects and what their terms/parameters are. 

I'd also see what grants, tax incentives, etc. the city & county might have access to since it sounds like the area needs revitalized and typically municipalities are trying to find people to help on the private side by redeveloping properties so they offer incentives. 

Post: Development Advice, Ideas & strategies.

Kristi Kandel
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  • Developer
  • Fort Myers Beach, FL
  • Posts 356
  • Votes 182
Quote from @Sara Delilah:

Hi everyone,

I own a boutique motel with surrounding land that I’d love to develop to enhance its appeal and attract more business. I’m looking for an experienced real estate developer who can provide insights and ideas on how best to utilize the space.

Additionally, there’s a small commercial property next to the motel, currently vacant, but I’m unsure about the best approach to renting it out to a business. Before moving forward, I’d like a clear strategy for maximizing the potential of both the land and the property.

I’d love to hear any suggestions, and I’m also open to partnering with an investor who has experience in development and growth strategies. If you have any advice or know someone who could help, please reach out!

Thanks in advance!

 @Sara Delilah Start by calling the zoning/planning department at the city. Ask them what the property is zoned and what the allowed uses are. From there you'll be able to determine what could fit based on what's allowed and what's missing/needed in that market. 

Post: The Real Estate Pessimist Podcast (Looking for Guests)

Kristi Kandel
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  • Fort Myers Beach, FL
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Hey all!

We’ve recorded 18 Episodes on our pod so far and are having a blast with this project.
The Real Estate Pessimist:
The good, bad, and the TRUTH about real estate investing!

If anyone would like to be a guest you can fill out this form: https://forms.gle/6eA19gAby6oMSDe78

Checkout the released episodes here: https://www.youtube.com/@TheRealEstatePessimist/videos The RE Pessimist YouTube Channel

Post: Garage to ADU conversion?

Kristi Kandel
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  • Fort Myers Beach, FL
  • Posts 356
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Quote from @Adam Watanabe:

Hi there! My wife and I recently purchased a single family home with a detached ADU outside the Sacramento, CA area. We just started medium-term renting the ADU through Furnished Finder and it's been an incredible experience. We barely notice our tenant and his rent covers about half of our mortgage. You might say I'm a little hooked and am considering other real estate investments. One idea would be to convert our attached 450 sq ft garage into an ADU to rent. It would cost around $100-120K and could rent for around $2K a month. This would be nearing the 2% rule which seems pretty good especially in today's market. Not to mention, we would be building equity into our house and it would cover the other half of the mortgage.

The other option would be to look for a property to purchase out of state to BRRRR. I would most likely try to find a multi-family to update, then hire a property manager to takeover. I wouldn't get near the rate of return as I would on the ADU, but I would be diversifying my housing investments.

Thoughts and comments would be much appreciated. Thank you!

 @Adam Watanabe I finished converting a garage that the seller got halfway. It's a cash cow and I intend on keeping the property for a long time. That being said, the way I set it up was that a future buyer could fairly easily turn it back into a SFH (no garage but easily just a larger home). One downside is that no matter house much insulation, carpets with pads, furring walls out more, etc. we do you're going to hear your neighbors to some extent. I love house hacking so I wouldn't take it back but something to consider.

Post: Create a Dynamic Real Estate estate Team

Kristi Kandel
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  • Fort Myers Beach, FL
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Quote from @Patrice Westbrooks:

This would be my first build. I have a seller who is right now seeking to rezone this lot to accommodate two Duplexes, so I'm waiting on the outcome. If course, I am building my team simultaneously so that I'm equipped and ready for demo, as soon as the contract is closed. My goal is to get the lot, seek No Doc financing for the balance of the seller-financed portion, then proceed without any liens or barriers. 

Plan B is if he doesn't get the desired rezoning, I'm ready to pivot to 1 Duplex and an ADU . I've ran the numbers both ways and I'm confident that this can be a win-win for all of us. I have done some due diligence within the scope and nature of my circumstances, therefore protecting my fiscal responsibility is paramount. Would you be interested in learn more?

 @Patrice Westbrooks based on what you're looking to do I bet there are other people in the town doing something similar. You could reverse engineer it by seeing who they are using for their team to design the ADU/duplexes (architects/engineers) and potentially lenders. I wouldn't hesitate to call the people building them already direct. In Southern CA there are so many going up that some people I know have started companies specifically to help others build ADUs and go through the design and permitting process. The financing is likely going to be the toughest part right now based on the market like Jaycee pointed out.

Post: real estate Development

Kristi Kandel
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  • Fort Myers Beach, FL
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Quote from @Robel Nessro:

How hard is it too start in real estate development 

 @Robel Nessro It's a team sport so with the right mentors and right partners anyone can do it if you want it. Over 75% of US cities have a population < 10K people. Meaning being a developer is actually possible for a local to develop in their own backyard. 

Post: Transitioning to Larger Parcels & Mobile Home Parks – Tips?

Kristi Kandel
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  • Fort Myers Beach, FL
  • Posts 356
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Quote from @Shema Cochrane:

Hey everyone,

This year, I’m shifting my focus more toward land development and moving away from smaller infill lots. I’ve been diving into larger parcels, seeing them as more versatile for future projects, and exploring the potential for mobile home parks specifically.

I’d love to hear from others who’ve made similar moves or have experience with larger tracts of land. What challenges did you face, especially when it comes to things like entitlement, zoning, and overall project planning? Any tips on sourcing land for mobile home parks?

I’m excited to continue growing and learning in this space, so any insights would be really appreciated!

Looking forward to hearing your thoughts!

 @Shema Cochrane Ty covered a lot of it. One thing to consider on developing new MHP is that if cities don't want them they can make it very difficult to build new ones. Typically I recommend that people get very clear on your vision for not only what you want to do but the exact markets you want to do projects in and narrow your focus to those. Local knowledge is the ultimate advantage. Even if you venture into new markets where you're not the local you can still find those partners (brokers, architects, engineers, contractors, lenders, etc.) who are and have the deep roots and insights.   Over 75% of US cities have less than 10K people so the city staff and planning dept are very accessible and are a great free resource to understand zoning and where your vision can fit into their community.

Post: How to make a million dollars with a capital partner with subdivision entitlements

Kristi Kandel
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  • Fort Myers Beach, FL
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Quote from @Jay Hinrichs:
Quote from @Kristi Kandel:
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Loudoun County Virginia

80 acre parcel

Entitlement for 30 1 to 1.5 acre estate lots and 40 acre remainder parcel with large million dollar home.

Purchase price  3.5 mil

EM deposits non refundable  50k up front 50k during

Entitlement cost ( survey, geo , water , artifacts, Soils Engineer , city fees)  350k

Capital partner  ME  provide all the cash up front.  450k to my client who found and prosecuted the plat

Multiple offers from all the biggest builders in that market  IE Toll  Lennar DR and a few regionals.

Closed today with 1.1 million cash profit  PLUS the 40 acres and home value about at least 2 mil free and clear.

My fee is double my money so we made 450k today.

My client made about 650k in cash and the property  free and clear.. 

This is the value of a TRUE capital partner one that knows development willing to take on some risk for high reward.

this is the smallest of 3 I had going with this company.. The other two are much larger with much larger investments from me and profits on one of them in the 8 figures for my clients..

My client is mid 30s just had a baby.. However is a civil engineer and worked for a big developer in NYC so very experienced.

The buyer was one of the companies named above it will hit the market for pre sales in a few months.

This is the 5th Entitlement project I have funded over the last 5 or 6 years in addition I did a 60 lot one in Orlando for a developer there and a 110 lot one in the Atlanta area for a build to rent developer who then sold to Lennar for build to rent .. On those I actually bought the land and they paid for the entitlements and then they paid me off my return on those was not 100% per annum like these but it was north of 30% per annum.. These deals have so much meat on the bone that paying a capital partner is a no brainier.. 

 @Jay Hinrichs THIS! Development has different risk profiles and longer timelines BUT when you have the right team working together and you build a pipeline of projects it can be very financially rewarding without trading your time for dollars. Especially as the capital partner but even if you're doing the subdivision 1 project still isn't a huge time commitment. At one point in my career I was the point person on 30 Family Dollars a year in CA (due diligence -> construction completion) and it was insane hours each each but I gained a hell of a lot of experience that paid off in the long run.  Awesome work!  


I see those dollars stores in all sorts of unique locations..  Cathlamet Wa is a perfect example of a tiny town but underserved and I a sure the dollar store there does very well. 

 @Jay Hinrichs my issue with them now is seeing what it did to the smaller communities in the long-run. Everyone was excited for another grocery/c-store type option in town and provide more jobs. BUT they then ran the local grocery stores and some retail stores out of biz. Which isn't necessarily terrible except the corporate offices for the DG/FDs of the world only looked at the bottom line numbers, didn't care about the condition/quality of the workplace, and most stores are not in great shape.  Not saying it's a net negative in all communities but it definitely was in some. Now I'm a fan of locals owning and running the biz and helping locals be the developers in their communities. Especially in our smaller towns. 


well Walmart did that all across the US.. right ?  :)  its the nature of capitalism.  In Cathlamet they still have the local grocery store ( which is tiny) but the guy adapted he brings in really good meats.. Fresh crab and fish  and stocks much higher quality than the dollar generall type store.. but if your just looking for a snack or cheap cleaning products they cant compete

 @Jay Hinrichs agreed and we need both. I'm just at a point in my career where the projects I want to do have changed from what I used to do. Thankfully development has given me an opportunity to have the financial ability to have that choice. 

Post: How to make a million dollars with a capital partner with subdivision entitlements

Kristi Kandel
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  • Developer
  • Fort Myers Beach, FL
  • Posts 356
  • Votes 182
Quote from @Jay Hinrichs:
Quote from @Kristi Kandel:
Quote from @Jay Hinrichs:
Quote from @Robert Ellis:
Quote from @Jay Hinrichs:

Loudoun County Virginia

80 acre parcel

Entitlement for 30 1 to 1.5 acre estate lots and 40 acre remainder parcel with large million dollar home.

Purchase price  3.5 mil

EM deposits non refundable  50k up front 50k during

Entitlement cost ( survey, geo , water , artifacts, Soils Engineer , city fees)  350k

Capital partner  ME  provide all the cash up front.  450k to my client who found and prosecuted the plat

Multiple offers from all the biggest builders in that market  IE Toll  Lennar DR and a few regionals.

Closed today with 1.1 million cash profit  PLUS the 40 acres and home value about at least 2 mil free and clear.

My fee is double my money so we made 450k today.

My client made about 650k in cash and the property  free and clear.. 

This is the value of a TRUE capital partner one that knows development willing to take on some risk for high reward.

this is the smallest of 3 I had going with this company.. The other two are much larger with much larger investments from me and profits on one of them in the 8 figures for my clients..

My client is mid 30s just had a baby.. However is a civil engineer and worked for a big developer in NYC so very experienced.

The buyer was one of the companies named above it will hit the market for pre sales in a few months.

This is the 5th Entitlement project I have funded over the last 5 or 6 years in addition I did a 60 lot one in Orlando for a developer there and a 110 lot one in the Atlanta area for a build to rent developer who then sold to Lennar for build to rent .. On those I actually bought the land and they paid for the entitlements and then they paid me off my return on those was not 100% per annum like these but it was north of 30% per annum.. These deals have so much meat on the bone that paying a capital partner is a no brainier.. 


 we do the same thing Jay but we look at this as return on entitlement spend and return on land purchase. we separate the two measurements. for return on entitlement spend its the total value of the land gain proven through either an appraisal pre and post entitlement from an institutional level appraiser by Berkadia or sale price divided by all of the soft costs needed to get the site to the finish line. we look for sites that are at least a 5x and typically focus more on single parcel sites that aren't assemblages and do it by going vertical not horizontal. as many have said there is much more risk in this strategy that you are doing that led to a lot of bankruptcies. also focusing on the luxury in my opinion isn't a scalable strategy. 

DR Horton made it through the recession and expanded by being in the part of the market that had the highest absorption which tends to be lots 5000-7000 sq ft and under the average price per square foot. in addition all of the land entitlement groups that we work with that do this at scale (20 at a time, not one at a time) only work with and target national builders. 

As of 2024, the largest U.S. homebuilder by deliveries is D.R. Horton, closing 90,777 homes and capturing 13.6% of the market, followed by Lennar Corporation with 73,087 closings. PulteGroup ranks third with 28,603 deliveries, while NVR, Inc. follows with 20,662. Sekisui House, after acquiring MDC Holdings, has become the fifth-largest builder with an estimated 15,000 homes delivered annually. Meritage Homes recorded 13,976 closings, slightly ahead of KB Homewith 13,236. Taylor Morrison delivered 11,495 homes, while Clayton Properties Group completed 9,957, and Toll Brothers rounded out the top ten with 9,597 closings. These figures reflect home closings for 2023. 

As of December 2024, the median sales price for new houses in the United States was $427,000, with an average sales price of $513,600. DR Horton in our market built 2000 sq ft homes in rural areas and smaller homes at 1500 and the only ones they made money on were 1500. they sold the ones above 2000 sq ft at losses or break even close to $150 per square foot. 

Again, different strategies but in my opinion the larger you get the lower the risk you want and as others have pointed out I think your deals in the build to rent sector or with larger tract builders is where we focus and probably others as well. maybe this was a special deal. 

in a few weeks once we get the appraisal back on an infill lot we have I'll show you how we made almost a million dollars on a site that's 0.1 acres and urban with very little risk backed by appraisals. we didn't have to wait 18 months or invest 500k either. we barely needed a capital partner too and every deal we entitle we would develop. I'm not sure about your partner here if he has the backing or experience as an engineer but my experience with engineers is they don't have practical real world experience like you have by doing projects all over the nation. 

I want to say as someone who's followed you as well this is amazing results. I always love reading your case studies and as you know look up to you. I just always like to play devils advocate and say what we see in the marketplace when it comes to raising or pooling funds for large scale developments and entitlements, there isn't any interest in luxury. 


Sekisui bought a regional NW builder about 3 years ago.. I am flipping one of my plats to them its 120 lots and they bought the golf course around my plat and are master planning 650 lots.  this one is mine and its a 7 bagger profit on an option flip ( plus I retain 4 acres free and clear that I will build storage for all these lots coming in. .  I optioned the property about 4 years ago.. With these deals you have to risk some capital and thats where I find the average investor especially here on BP that is very much rental ( IE has to cash flow day one ) simply will not entertain these deals.. you also have to be willing to walk from 50k or 100k if it turns against you.. 

 @Jay Hinrichs Agreed. You will spend more dollars on due diligence and might need to walk from a huge chunk of money but if you have the right team and have a high hit percentage it's worth it. The part I love about development is that it's so lucrative that you don't need to scale. You can stay very small and have a great quality of life. 


so Kristi this begs the question in Fort Meyers were you had land guys in the 50s plat literally 500k thousand lots  ( lehigh Acres etc) where is the development plays or is it all commercial development plays..  I mean you cant really create new lots for as cheap as you can buy existing.. or is it just the locations are far superior..  I was on a CA Senate sub committee in the mid 80s that was dealing with what we called antiquated subdivisions as you know CA has millions of those type of lots ( think High desert north of LA..  )  And the situation in Le high and those areas was that if you got got close to full absorption of those lots there was not nearly enough infrastructure ( especially roads) to handle these but to get them approved in the 50s state did not care they wanted to attract people to the swamps. :)

 @Jay Hinrichs personally I like living in FL but not necessarily developing. Hurricanes wiped our my town in 2022 and we are in the middle of a 10-15 year rebuild period b/c we were one of the last old florida communities. Which meant 80-90% of our structures weren't close to current building codes and we lost a majority of the island. The major developers have come in and bought dirt for 50M and will be building multiple 17 story towers where 2 story buildings used to be.  I played that game and I don't want to make money just to make money anymore. I want to do projects that revitalize communities and bring people together. To that end we are looking at MUCH smaller redevelopment plays leveraging modular construction to cut the costs by 65% and potentially provide "affordable" housing options to buyers and renters. It won't be truly affordable for the bartenders, servers, employees of small biz but it will help a little for others. Same with smaller infill projects in the Naples area.                  For the larger tract developments there are massive communities being built in Lehigh area and Naples (outskirts) but with Hurricanes being more destructive, insurance being a crazy wildcard, FL isn't really a market I want to go big on.