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All Forum Posts by: Will F.

Will F. has started 175 posts and replied 907 times.

Post: Cape Coral, Fort Myers FL Cash Flow Rental

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Quote from @Allen Wu:
Quote from @Will F.:
Originally posted by @Peter Davis:

I've said it before and I still believe it, that Cape Coral is a great place to invest. Year over year, December 2020 to December 2021 the average sales price went up 30% and current inventory is at around three weeks. There's huge demand for limited supply. And I think that trend will continue in 2022 albeit at a somewhat slower pace. 

Yeah but often when here's been a 30% uptick and low inventory that means it was a great place to invest.  As investors are looking for deals.  So it's good for old time investors but not for buyers!

It's difficult whether it will continue or if we're overpriced relative to future rent growth or not

Good point. I’m from Los Angeles too. To be honest, everything is inflated if looking at it today. The folks here on thread are no joke from Cape. I’ve interacted with them on various threads and trust them from an expert point of view. 

I just think it’s tougher to find deals in Cape, Los Angeles, San Antonio, and Parts of Nashville. These are my markets. Hindsight is 20/20, but heck, i was Fearful too and prices somehow still going up. 

I think Cape has a good future due to influx of people from certain states. I just wish i had More money to invest there. 

im on the sidelines now and will only submit offers where I can find a steal (though hard these days). Otherwise, I’m just saving cash for future deals and shore up reserves for potential correction to ride that vacancy and not bleed out. Again, conservative side of me. 

all points well taken above. 

Well I'm hoping to buy in cape coral or fort meyers in the next few months. Seems like the housing can't keep up with the population...

 We're in such a state of unknowns now.  Interest rates may rise, which should correct prices some... but also everything is inflating so holding assets.  For all I know we could be early still and prices could even be more unaffordable soon...

Post: Too Late to invest in Fort Lauderdale?

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Quote from @Connor Pine:

Hello Everyone,

I’m a college student looking for a house hack opportunity in South Florida. I’m trying to build a house hack/ rental portfolio and I’m wondering now if Fort Lauderdale is too late to get into. Wondering what everyone’s thoughts are/ if people are still buying rental properties in this climate.

Thanks


 I don't think it's too late in Broward county at all.  I actually have offers on deals in Hollywood, Fort Lauderdale, and Miami.  Rent's have increased about 10-20% in a lot of these areas over the  last year.  Prices have increased about the same amount so as long as you get a deal you can do ok.

If you're house hacking even better. I did house hacking in Los Angeles for years and it's often better to do development/ value add/ BRRR in lower cap areas that are considered expensive. The lower the cap the higher the reward when you cash out. Because these are desirable areas.

Post: How to find trends and projections Population Job

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What sources do you all use for accurate and up to date trends and projections?

I'm looking to see city trends like-- Net migration, jobs, population and other demographic data?

I usually use City-data and used PBR https://www.prb.org/usdata/ind... but PBR doesn't show % from my understanding it is mainly # counts.

https://www.census.gov/ is pretty good but seems to be lagging years back

Post: Little Haiti Miami area? Location. 8 unit deal

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Quote from @Jean H.:

@Will F. When @Malgorzata Sadowska talks about Little Haiti being "one of the highest points in the county" she's referring to its elevation. Little Haiti as an investment area started trending after Hurricane Irma because it was one of the few places that didn't flood because it's on higher ground than the rest of the county (one perk of this is that you're not going to have to pay flood insurance, which, as @Daniel Smyth mentioned is a concern for most of Miami-Dade County). 

Little Haiti is also one of the closest of the cheap neighborhoods near the ever-more-popular Wynwood and the Design District. So definitely up-and coming. The only thing I would really look into is the state of the building itself. The housing stock there is pretty dilapidated and probably wasn't well-maintained for the most part. If it was renovated, great! but check their work.  If it's between N Miami and US1, I'd buy. Would make a great Airbnb.


 Thanks for the info. This thread has been great and you all have been very helpful.

My $1.4 m 180k/ u offer wasn't accepted on the little haiti 8 u. It also was tiny apartments so it didn't seem to make much sense price/sf.

 I'm now in some offers in N Miami, and Hollywood FL.  Probably not as "Hot" or cool of an area as Little haiti, but it seems more suburban feel and 'safer' for renters.

Do Miami locals see many searching for housing in N Miami or even more north to Hollywood if they're priced out of nice residential neighborhoods in Miami?

Post: Hollywood Florida Multifamily and flood zones

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Hi I am investing in Hollywood FL probably purchasing a 12-20 u in the next  60 days.

 I was wondering what people know about flood zones AH and AE?  

I was trying to purchase near Fed Hwy 1 closer to the intercoastal.

What do local investors think of the Hollywood area and how much the market has gone up recently.  It also seems like rents are quickly following sales prices.

Also what are the current going rates for a large 1/1 I'm looking at some from $150/unit that need some repairs and $170k that are closer to fed hwy 1/ or fixed up.

Background: Also I already have offers on a couple 14-16 unit properties now.  I  own 20 units in Hollywood/ Fort lauderdale area so i'm looking to network with other investors.

Post: Cape Coral, Fort Myers FL Cash Flow Rental

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Originally posted by @Trevor Fleck:

@Will F. OOS investor here building 7 SFHs in NW Cape Coral - 6 of the 7 on freshwater canal lots. No one has a crystal ball for sure and it's easy to sound smart when the market goes up and up. That said, a few pieces of information to chew on from my own experiences and information I've gathered:

Back in early 2021, I could get a freshwater canal lot on the MLS for $10-$15k. Those same lots are now selling for $45-$50k. So a 4x increase in just under a year. In early 2021, I could construct a 1600-1700 sq ft 4/2 or 4/3 for $225k through Rent to Retirement. Now I can't do it for under $250k. So build prices went up about 10%, but land went up nearly 400%.

So some would look at that and say "I'm too late to the party." However, keep in mind that rent in early 2021 was around $1,800 for that 160-1700 sqft 4/2 and is now closer to $2,400-$2,500. Additionally, appraisals on that 1600-1700 sqft 4/2 that I could build all in for $238k (lot + build + closing costs) appraised for around $280k, but are now appraising for $360-$410k. 

So today you can still build a 1775 sqft 4/2 (current model I'm building) for just under $300k on a freshwater canal lot (lot + build price) that will rent TODAY for $2,500. I don't think rents can continue on their current upward trajectory. However, Cape Coral has some large tailwinds helping it out such as the massive influx of people (look up recent articles by UHaul on migration patterns and they cite Cape Coral/Fort Myers in specific), low supply of available rental and housing, and overall desirability due to weather, proximity to the Ocean, price point, low taxes, business-friendly state, etc. 

Personally, I think the underlying value of land is what will continue to increase at a rapid pace in 2022. You see that in coastal areas across the nation. It's the land that is the real value. At some point, the combined cost of the land + build (mainly driven by land increases) will reach a point where there isn't enough cash flow to justify anything other than an appreciation move. However, I still think canal lots this close to the Ocean in SW Florida under $50k remain a good value. 

Look, hindsight is 20:20. We all wish we would have bought 100 lots early last year. Who knew? Well @Peter Davis has been singing this for years, but unfortunately, most of us didn't know him then. However, I think you need to look at what's in front of you right now rather than lamenting that you didn't get in earlier and ask yourself if a new construction 4/2 1775 sqft home with a custom builder for $300k on a freshwater canal lot within a couple miles of the Ocean in Southern Florida that rents for $2,400 conservatively makes sense. It does for me. It might not in 6 months or a year, but right now I'm making hay while the sun is shining! 

 Those are some very logical points.  Thanks for the reframe

Post: Cape Coral, Fort Myers FL Cash Flow Rental

Will F.Posted
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Originally posted by @Peter Davis:

I've said it before and I still believe it, that Cape Coral is a great place to invest. Year over year, December 2020 to December 2021 the average sales price went up 30% and current inventory is at around three weeks. There's huge demand for limited supply. And I think that trend will continue in 2022 albeit at a somewhat slower pace. 

Yeah but often when here's been a 30% uptick and low inventory that means it was a great place to invest.  As investors are looking for deals.  So it's good for old time investors but not for buyers!

It's difficult whether it will continue or if we're overpriced relative to future rent growth or not

Post: Little Haiti Miami area? Location. 8 unit deal

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Originally posted by @Sebastian Giraldo:

  Little Haiti is definitely a great area. Also depends exactly what avenue and how close you are to Biscayne Blvd or if its on NW 2 ave and at what height of it? The closer South to Wynwood the better. I have a friend who is only buying along that avenue. Also important to keep in mind the massive $1.3 Bil development Magic city innovation district.  

 It's about 2.5 blocks to biscayne.  It's a little closer to Miami blvd, but in between Biscayne/Miami blvd.  

Seems sort of nice but also the street seems a little gritty and has some gritty elements to the neighborhood 

I'm coming from markets that are $250-350k for C+ areas in southern california so to me $180k is not bad.  
I feel like i'm overpaying though not geting a great deal. unless the area continues to improve and the jobs/ population keep growing... who knows?

Post: Little Haiti Miami area? Location. 8 unit deal

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Originally posted by @Isabela Faria-Newell:

My question to you is - What are you planning on doing with this investment? 
Are you planning to run it as a STR or a flip and so forth?
Depending on your investment metric, I would give you different advice, but in general my thought process for you would be:
1. Definitely make sure someone (your real estate agent) goes out there to see the street the complex it is in. Although Miami realtors like myself know the streets, they change quickly in Miami. I lived in Miami for 8 years and Lil Haiti is growing but it's still considered an "up and coming" not great neighborhood. You have to be careful what street you invest there. I think that depending on your investment strategy, it can work. 

I just plan to hold for LTR. I don't think little haiti or this property is quite good enough to STR yet, maybe in 3-5 years if the area gets hotter. But soemtimes 'area appreciation' takes longer

I have a feeling this neighborhood is not great but I've done a lot of investing in Long Beach in LA and seen areas improve over time as hipsters, artists and young people start to fill in urban blight.  Could be very risky i suppose, but i also haven't found anything in my search and have to close soon.

Post: Little Haiti Miami area? Location. 8 unit deal

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Originally posted by @Malgorzata Sadowska:

What's the condition of the building? Each unit? Rent ready? Which part of Little Haiti? In general, great area to invest (due to proximity you already mentioned & it's one of the highest points in the county). Where's the building on their 40 year / 50 (etc.) (re)certification process? 

Rental & sale comps will depend on all that & some additional factors.

It's East of Miami blvd but west of Biscayne.  It doesn't look taht clean but everything I see listed is over $200k a unit and many go for $250-300k/u

This one is $180k a unit and is 2/1 and 1/1s x8 u.  

I'm not sure about the 40 yr

What do you mean that it's one of the highest points in the county?