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All Forum Posts by: Kevin Chan

Kevin Chan has started 12 posts and replied 84 times.

Originally posted by @Daniel Pitner:

@Kyle Reedstrom I currently have a short term rental that went live 1/1/20.  We are booked through May and after estimated expenses (including summer utility bills) we are looking at an average cashflow of around $800.  

Is this managing by yourself or with a PM?

I don't know what the loan value is, but part of the reason could be-

I think the costs don't really scale linearly.  So, the % of loan value changes a lot if, for example, it is $3000 on a $100k loan vs $4000 on a $400k loan.

Post: First Deal Complete and WOW

Kevin ChanPosted
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Congratulations! What market did you make this happen?

Hi, I'm nearby, in LA county.  I'm considering Phoenix as a next target for a purchase.. haven't looked in depth yet, but interested in learning about the area as well.  It is a lot closer to us than I'm invested in atm.

Originally posted by @Scott Smith:

Generally, I prefer the Series LLC. It was first created in 1996 in Delaware, over two decades ago.

Understanding the Series LLC is a great starting point for understanding DSTs. Both use a parent-child structure and have infinite scalability, offering creative solutions for investors.

California investors have special concerns because of the state's laws and tax regulations. While a Series LLC presents an ideal solution for investors in every other state, it would incur an $800 franchise tax at the very least.

The Delaware Statutory Trust is a great alternative, because it offers a similar level of protection to the Series LLC while also avoiding this tax burden. The state views DSTs as estate planning tools, which do not have to meet the same requirements as corporations or LLCs. Any investor who is doing business in California may be subject to state taxes.

One thing to watch when using trusts in addition to their protection afforded, is revocability. The DST is revocable which helps in adjusting for business conditions, where some trusts are irrevocable. That being said, it is best to look at the individual goals of the investor to decide whether to use a DST or LLC.

If I'm in California and I have 3 properties- 1 in CA, 2 out of state.. what would be the startup cost to form the parent DST + child DST's? And is there a fee to maintain it/them each year? And to have you / lawyer maintain as a trustee?

The webinar is tomorrow

I'm just entering the Columbus market.. definitely competitive.  If you're willing to rehab, you'll have more opportunity.  But I didn't want to do a lot of work, so mostly TK has a premium.  If you get in though, that competition will hopefully result in a lot of appreciation, like you were saying.

Originally posted by @Justin R.:

@Cedric Ballet I hear what your saying, although 800 dollars multiplied by a few dozen properties, annually, does add up. Once it's set-up it is rather easy, as it's considered a "disregarded entity" by the IRS. The biggest hassle has been refinancing once the property is in the land trust. I found its best to just temporarily move property out of trust, refinance, and then move it back in.

How much was the DST to set up and annual maintenance cost?

From what I understand (haven't  done it yet.)  -


When you refinance it, the bank/lender will still need to do an appraisal.  You'll be able to cash out up to 75% of that value.

Originally posted by @Christina Hall:

@Kevin Chan haha ignore the Big Bear vs Arrowhead:) was mixing this thread up with another. YES lots of competition in Big Bear over 6k properties listed and to self-manage and make money you have to be really, really good ... there is a reason why platforms have algorithms to show only 'top' homes. With that said the market for 6+ bed near Summit is $700k+. We were looking at 3bd in Moonridge and Summit, and also Arrowhead. Basically if I had to gamble I would do it in Arrowhead, my personal preference. 

 Ok, so he was on the money. He had 2 clients who found 7 BR for 550k (then 200k upgrades) and 700k.  But I wasn't seeing anything on the market like that.