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All Forum Posts by: Kenny Dahill

Kenny Dahill has started 19 posts and replied 1021 times.

Post: Property management issues

Kenny DahillPosted
  • Investor
  • Tempe, AZ
  • Posts 1,055
  • Votes 730
Here are Elenis' comments broken out, you need to out 3 spaces between for some reason.

Originally posted by @Elenis Camargo:
@Christopher Cadenhead

If you take it line by line, it’s a bit easier to read. I’m not a lawyer but this is what I get from the terms. I hope this helps. You can contact the PM and confirm if you cancel the contract today, is XYZ true. They will have to tell you. Make sure you get a signed termination so they won’t come back later asking you to pay anything.

1. You have a one year contract with them that automatically renews. To stop it from automatically renewing you need to physically give them written notice 30 days before it renews. “The term shall begin on the _____ day of _________, 2017 and will be in effect for one year and will automatically renew for successive year periods at the anniversary date so long as there has not been at least a thirty (30) day written notice prior to the next term given by either party to terminate.”

2. You may terminate, again has to be written and physically given to the PM, but you will have to keep paying the PM the monthly commission that you’re paying them now. You would pay them this until the tenants they put in the property leave or until their lease is up. “Termination by LANDLORD is effective when actually physically received by BROKER. In the event this agreement is terminated by LANDLORD, the BROKER shall continue to receive the rental commission set forth below as long as the TENANT(S) placed on the property by BROKER shall remain in the unit until the end of the current lease.”

3. I am not sure I have paragraphs 15 through 18 to explain the next part. “In the event this agreement is terminated by LANDLORD, the BROKER'S rights provided for in paragraph 15 THROUGH 18 shall survive such termination.”

4. If the PM has spent any money on maintenance, for example, and you haven’t paid them yet, then you would have to pay before cancelling the contract. “All monies expended by BROKER shall be paid to BROKER prior to this cancellation and BROKER is authorized to withhold any sums owed to BROKER from monies held prior to the final disbursement to LANDLORD.”

5. If you don’t have a tenant in the property now or if it’s been less than 3 months since the PM placed a tenant, you owe the PM an extra $125. “An additional cancellation fee of $125.00 will be charged to LANDLORD should LANDLORD terminate this agreement prior to TENANT(S) being placed and for a period of 3 months after TENANT(S) placement.”

6. And of course they always put a clause in there that allows them to cancel at any time within 30 days notice without any penalties to them. “BROKER reserves the right to terminate this agreement with 30 days written notice to LANDLORD at any time, or, immediately with written or verbal notice if in the opinion of BROKER'S legal counsel, LANDLORD'S actions or inactions violate the terms of this management agreement or are illegal, improper, jeopardize the safety or welfare of any TENANT(S) or other persons, interfere with this management agreement and/or a foreclosure action is filed against the LANDLORD.”

Post: Property management issues

Kenny DahillPosted
  • Investor
  • Tempe, AZ
  • Posts 1,055
  • Votes 730

@Christopher Cadenhead I like how @Elenis Camargo broke it down, I suggest you do the same.  Break it out in Excel with the "Statement" and then your actions so you can clearly see them all separate.

Why do you want to get rid of them?  Is there anything about the managers being in breach of contract?  If they're not living up to their end of the bargain then they could be in breach, which might require you sending them proper notice before just cancelling.  

Regarding #4, I would also suggest you get everything financially caught up before you terminate.  Meaning your expenses, have them clarify what you might still owe them so you have it 'dated'.  You don't want them adding bogus expenses because you wish to terminate, if you get expenses confirmed on a Monday and then terminate on a Tuesday, they can't go back to Sunday for "missed expenses".

Post: Cincinnati Property Manager

Kenny DahillPosted
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  • Tempe, AZ
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@Robert Loree Managers will want to know what type of a property it is or even the location.  Some firms even have different options contingent on your specific property needs.  I'll send a direct message with more info.

Post: Yearly inspection by PM

Kenny DahillPosted
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  • Tempe, AZ
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Agreed with the above.  'A la carte' is your best option.  If you live close enough to DIY, that's cheap.  Or decide what is needed to maintain your property to rent, the rest can wait.  If your PM did their turnover inspection properly then they would have documented all the damages from previous tenants, then taken out of their security deposit.

Did you negotiate with your PM regarding how often they need to do an inspection?  Often missed in negotiations, and can be a huge concern.  For example, my rentals in Arizona rely heavily on our ACs and if the filters aren't changed frequently then that can cause damage and shorten the AC's lifecycle.  So I send them reminders often and also have our HVAC maintenance company change them.

Post: Lookking to meet LA / OC / San Diego Investors

Kenny DahillPosted
  • Investor
  • Tempe, AZ
  • Posts 1,055
  • Votes 730
@Kevin Fox I'm coming back the first two weeks of October, although attending REIA's all over Southern California.

Post: Managing Properties Out of State

Kenny DahillPosted
  • Investor
  • Tempe, AZ
  • Posts 1,055
  • Votes 730
@Kevin Bohannon You could probably self-manage and just hire out tenant placement when needed then. If they pay electronically, that's huge. I sent you info in a direct message, but that's what Burbz helps with.

Post: Alternative Fee Arrangement for Property Management

Kenny DahillPosted
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  • Tempe, AZ
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@Joe G. What your talking about are fees based on rent 'collected' vs 'expected'.  It is important to confirm with your property manager how they charge.  Not always the case, but typically you see flat rates associated with 'expected' and percentage rates associated with collected.

Post: Managing Properties Out of State

Kenny DahillPosted
  • Investor
  • Tempe, AZ
  • Posts 1,055
  • Votes 730

@Kevin Bohannon What class of tenants are you dealing with?  If they're Class A or B, you could get away with continuing to self-manage but hire out tenant placement when necessary.  If the tenants or property requires more effort to manage, then hiring a property manager would be a wise choice.

Post: Property management in Memphis

Kenny DahillPosted
  • Investor
  • Tempe, AZ
  • Posts 1,055
  • Votes 730

Welcome to the party @Moses Brach!  Memphis is a hot spot lately.  I sent you a direct message with some information.

Joel, I sent you a direct message with some information.