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All Forum Posts by: Account Closed

Account Closed has started 17 posts and replied 170 times.

Post: Tax Advisor

Account ClosedPosted
  • Jacksonville, FL
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Originally posted by @Andreas F.:

Hello all,

I need your help. I am looking for a tax advisor with special knowledge in RE for foreign investors. I am interested in fix and flip, so more a short term investment, and buy and hold.

I assume there is a difference btw the both models in term of taxation.

Thx, Andreas

What is the status of this? If you are referencing the taxation of flip v. rental income, the variance could be quite drastic based on the holding period of the investments.

Post: China starting enforcement of taxation of overseas income and investments.

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  • Jacksonville, FL
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Originally posted by @Michaela G.:

I'm wondering how many Chinese can afford to stay and work outside of China. 

Here in the U.S. the upper tax bracket is 35%, I think. And in China it's 40%. If they're going to enforce that, people (who don't have major deductions to offset ) might have to pay 75% taxes. 

I'm sure it's not as simple as this, but with the additional hit on take-home pay, it might also create foreclosures, because owners simply won't be able to afford their mortgages.

There are tax treaties that exist between the U.S and many countries -- including China. Eliminating double taxation is a part of such treaties. 

Based on the specific instance here, if the income of a Chinese investor or business is taxed here in the U.S at say 35%, they are able to apply the tax amount paid in the U.S towards what their tax liability would be in China on the same taxable income. If they overpaid here in the U.S, a credit could be utilized in China to a certain number of years -- 5 or so. 

If the Chinese tax on the taxable income exceeds the tax paid in the U.S, they (the Chinese investor or business) would then have to pay the differential in Chinese tax and not the 75% for instance.

Post: International and offshore LLC structuring

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  • Jacksonville, FL
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Originally posted by @Thierry Van Roy:

I could be off, but there's not a single post on structuring LLC's internationally on BiggerPockets.

The US, a litiguous society, has a pretty decent deal to protect yourself through LLC's, but that's not the case in e.g. Western-European countries. As a consequence, you can't protect yourself, even if the legal system protects individuals better than in the US.

Often, inheritance and liquidation tax will murder your equity, while an LLC eradicates your NOI (different tax structure than personal income-generating assets).

Now, I'm not talking about a mailbox company in Belize with a front representative in Hong Kong or anything illegal like that, but I keep thinking to myself: there has to be a better way.

Who here knows a little about these types of things and where can I get myself educated on the matter?

It depends on the exact nature of what it is you plan on doing. You may connect and discuss or also respond on here.

Post: Business structure

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  • Jacksonville, FL
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It wasn't meant to be a lesson Rob but you are welcome all the same. I'll try to address a few things you mentioned which actually is misinformation in a way and civility in the tone would be great!

Regarding this: "Do you know why Wyoming is so popular for incorporating? Because it's cheap. That's it. That's the deal. .."

Well, lets see... technically and contrary to what you might think, Wyoming isn't the cheapest per se in terms of how much it actually cost you to incorporate. That would be Kentucky and there are a few other states that cost less to incorporate in than Wyoming. You can see the cost data here: http://www.incorporatefast.com/filingfee.asp ; because a state has the cheapest fee doesn't mean cheapest total cost from a business perspective.

There might be some slight variance in prices as some of the states tweak these prices sometimes but it isnt materially different. The point is that although Kentucky is one of the cheapest to incorporate in, when looking at the aggregate benefits of the sort discussed earlier, Wyoming tops that list.

Regarding what you said here: "I'm often criticized for my stance against setting up LLCs and sticking with personal ownership.."

I can see why.. also personal preferences have a way of clouding judgement.. there are many reasons why trying to hold business investments or conduct any type of business as a sole proprietor makes not much sense.. it doesn't mean it doesn't for you though.

I also don't remember him saying he wanted legal advice but rather trying to decide which state to incorporate. If you are used to dealing as a sole proprietor that would probably explain the misunderstandings on how or why incorporating in some states could be an administrative nightmare. There is often always a short term quick fix solution to a problem and solutions that have flexibility in addressing a business need as the entity grows.

Unless you are wholesaling with cash (and I mean your money in your bank account cash), most newbies wholesaling utilize lenders that either prefer or in some cases require using an LLC as a funding requirement. He also mentioned he may venture into rehabbing and that may involve activities in other states. He benefits more from having an LLC than not and each state have a varying level of benefit.

Post: Business structure

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Not necessarily.., there is some flexibility with the meaning of: "doing business in the state of New York". There is also quite a bit regarding how he is structured and exact nature of his activities that is not clear to determine. The foreign entity may also be doing more business outside New York than within it hence operating in New York as a foreign entity may be justified for a variety of reasons.

Incorporating outside of New York (or most other states -- not just picking on NY here) is beyond just fees and taxes but also in varying levels of required bureaucracy,  administrative headaches in managing the entity, privacy issues, required shareholder meetings and records/minutes of those meetings and just business climate which vary by state. 

There is a reason why Wyoming ranks #1 of 50 states on this list in terms of the referenced climate being favorable for businesses and Nevada #3; New York is ranked 49 of 50 states on this list for a reason. 

Again, this isn't saying New York isn't a great market but some environments are more 'friendly' to businesses than others in terms of where you incorporate.

http://taxfoundation.org/article/2015-state-business-tax-climate-index

Post: Business structure

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Originally posted by @Paul LaSpina:

I am starting my RE investing biz and have been going back and forth on set up and state of incorporation, I am at the point the I believe an LLC would be best and I should probably set 1 up in Wyoming or Nevada. I live in NYC. I would like to initially start wholesaling any where in the cuntry and than rehabbing,flipping, preferably NY/NJ/CT as I want to be to monitor the deal. Does anyone have any advice in regards to stucture/set up?

This depends on some of your personal goals. The states you mentioned as incorporation sites, have some similarities in regards to how the entity is taxed and privacy.

Post: LLC paperwork

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@Eric Narciso

That depends on the exact nature of how you plan to go about things. The state where you reside should also be able to advise you of an exact list of things that you need for an LLC there.

Some links with some information you might need:

http://www.leg.state.nv.us/NRS/NRS-086.html

Post: Free Accounting Software: GnuCash v QuickBooks?

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  • Jacksonville, FL
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Originally posted by @Roy N.:

@Account Closed


It is a great piece of software and seems to fit what I need to use it for.

Post: Free Accounting Software: GnuCash v QuickBooks?

Account ClosedPosted
  • Jacksonville, FL
  • Posts 183
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Has anyone used this program for any accounting functions? It appears to be somewhat robust for a free open source application with no fees. 

You should be able to download install and compare with any other applications which you might be familiar with.

http://www.gnucash.org

Post: LLC Formation, who's the managing member?

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  • Jacksonville, FL
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Originally posted by @Bruce Scannell:

...For others that have done this, do you make yourself or the management LLC the managing member? I want to have the additional asset protection, so I'm thinking of making the LLC as managing member, but my CPA says I should make myself the managing member. If thats the case, whats the purpose of having the management LLC in the holding LLC?...

 Did the CPA mention why that was the best route?