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All Forum Posts by: Kareem Lyons

Kareem Lyons has started 13 posts and replied 77 times.

Post: Help Me Save My Career

Kareem LyonsPosted
  • Realtor
  • Columbus, OH
  • Posts 77
  • Votes 22
Originally posted by @Ryan Evans:

If you're not willing to make cold calls or door knock then you might be in the wrong industry. Being an agent means you're a 100% commission based sales person. Make no mistake about it. And a salesperson who doesn't want to sell is going to have a tough time. 

You're on an investing forum so have you put much energy into the investment side of things? That has a lot more options and ways to make money and build real wealth. 

 I have no issues with door knocking or cold calling if it works. I haven't tried it enough to see if it really works I guess, I will start the process of doing these two activities this week. My main goal is to get into investing once I have enough commission checks saved up. Investing is whole other field that I will need to find a mentor for.

Post: Help Me Save My Career

Kareem LyonsPosted
  • Realtor
  • Columbus, OH
  • Posts 77
  • Votes 22
Originally posted by @Joe Splitrock:

@Kareem Lyons here is two suggestions to generate leads:

1. Knock on doors. Introduce yourself and let the home owner know that their neighborhood is desirable to buyers. Tell them you have talked to buyers interested in that area, but there is a shortage of nice homes. Ask if they have considered selling for the right price. Many will say no, but some will ask what price. Tell them you need to walk through the home and work up a listing price estimate. Tell them you will research comparable and give them a price within two days. Prepare a professional looking report and meet with them to review. Once you get the proposal in their hands, you will follow up with them regularly until they are listing with you.

2. Do open houses all weekend. If you don't have listings, offer to do open houses for other agents. Some agents have too many listings to do all the open houses or others may not want to tie up a weekend. The reason you want to do open houses is to meet buyers and sellers. You need to approach people during the open house and talk to them. As them where they live now and what type of house they are looking for. Let them know you may have some off market listings you could share with them. This isn't a lie if you do step one - talking to potential sellers. People are more likely to talk to you if they think you have something to offer - in a hot market, off market listings are appealing. You can find both buyers and sellers at open houses. Before people list their house for sale, they often start casually going to open houses to shop the market. Just a word of caution on open houses. Half the open houses I go to, the agent stands there and says nothing to me. The other half the time, the engage and work me as a lead source. Don't bother with open houses if you just plan to stand there.

As a final comment, your age can be an advantage or disadvantage. Some people may view you as less experienced. Be up front about your situation. Don't try to pretend like you are a 20 year veteran Realtor. Your advantage is that you are young and hungry. Since you don't have tons of clients, you can devote more time to the clients you have. Share that with people. Tell them you will work twice as hard as the more established realtors.

Good luck! 

 Great advice , thanks 

Post: Help Me Save My Career

Kareem LyonsPosted
  • Realtor
  • Columbus, OH
  • Posts 77
  • Votes 22
Originally posted by @Jordan Moorhead:

Kareem Lyons you need to get coffee with a new person every day. Do this every single day and hustle to build your network. Stop sitting at your computer all day and stop wasting money on **** Zillow leads. Get out there and hustle, go to meetups, go to networking events, meet people, shake hands and pass out cards.

If you can get coffee and talk real estate with one person per day I guarantee you you’ll be busier than you can handle within a year.

 Yes sir , I am absolutely changing my game plan around. 

Post: Help Me Save My Career

Kareem LyonsPosted
  • Realtor
  • Columbus, OH
  • Posts 77
  • Votes 22
Originally posted by @Brian H.:

@Kareem Lyons

I see so many negative words in most of your responses. Can't. Don't. Won't. People are giving you some great advice. Not saying you are turning it away or being rude. You aren't. But, one thing that has helped me a lot in life in general was when I made an intentional effort to stop myself with phrases where I am saying "I Can't", "I don't", "I don't know how", etc.

Then I started trying to find ways, without realizing, to adjust my situations so I could respond with positives. Also, just finding ways to respond positively that would then also positively affect what was being discussed. 

You are already on here asking for help. That is a step. Now, when people are offering ideas/advice, instead of saying you can't or you don't know how... approach these things from an "I'd like to learn about that", "That sounds like something I could do", or things like that.  It has an interesting effect on the brain over time. At least for me it did.  

One thing I wanted to recommend you avoid is handing out letters/going to people's doors.  I had seen that discussed on here before and agreed with people that said someone showing up at their door as a realtor or investor would immediately turn them off.  Straight up, it's pretty annoying to have people show up at your door trying to sell you something or talk to you about something like selling your house.  So, I would definitely avoid that.  Seems like there is a lot of really great info for you in here though. Soak it up and move forward. No more "I can't"!!!

Be confident!  Go start learning about all these things people are talking about that you don't understand. They can't explain it all to you but you can find so many resources both here on BP and just by googling or even searching Youtube.  These days you say you aren't sure how to fill? Fill them with education!!! FREE EDUCATION!!!! 

Now FLY!!!

 Thanks for your response I really appreciate it. The second half of your response is pretty much what causes conflicting decisions for me. realtors have different options on stuff like door knocking and for a new agent its hard to gauge if its worth the time or not. 

realtor 1 - dont door knock as its annoying to the person. Would they really use your service if you have to knock or their door ? 

realtor 2 - yes you should door knock its worked out great for me!. 

If both people are successful at different strategies it can be hard for a newbie to gauge where they should be.

Post: Help Me Save My Career

Kareem LyonsPosted
  • Realtor
  • Columbus, OH
  • Posts 77
  • Votes 22
Originally posted by @Ryan Evans:

So you're saying that everyone's telling you to generate more leads, then you're not doing that and saying that you don't have enough quality leads? 

Hate to break it to you, but starting a new business is hard. Stop social media and watching training videos. Nobody is going to become your client because you're reposting articles on your facebook page with 200 followers. 

Don't spend money online or on mailers. That's a good way to put yourself in the hole and with little experience, you'll have a hard time closing them anyhow. 

I think you're overthinking it. If you're not successful sitting at the computer, then get off the computer. Go knock on 50 doors per weekday and 100 on the weekends and you will see results 100% guaranteed. If you don't believe it, just try it for one week and you'll see the difference. 

When the sun goes down you should be at every relevant networking event you can find. 

Lastly, read a book on the Pareto principle and apply it haha. 

Good luck out there! Persistence is the thing that will get you where you want to be!

 Ok Ryan , I'll hold you to that statement. Like I was saying I would usually pass out letters but not knock. I will knock on 100 homes on Thursday- Friday and I will see what happens and update this forum. Any ideas where I should knock or any good scripts ? 

Post: Help Me Save My Career

Kareem LyonsPosted
  • Realtor
  • Columbus, OH
  • Posts 77
  • Votes 22
Originally posted by @Steve Bracero:

@Kareem Lyons

How many contacts are you making a day?

 What do you mean by that ? , like new contacts ? . Maybe like 5 new ones. I mainly service people I already have in the pipeline. I have issues finding new people to service actively 

Post: Help Me Save My Career

Kareem LyonsPosted
  • Realtor
  • Columbus, OH
  • Posts 77
  • Votes 22
Originally posted by @Ryan Murdock:

@Kareem Lyons

I'll second @Zach Sikes advice on joining a team. There is no way I would have made it in this business if I had just started as an independent agent like you are doing. It can be done, but in my case I probably would have fizzled out. I spent a few years with a team until I was established enough to break off on my own. 

Yes, team commission splits and workload can be brutal but education and experience almost always come at a cost. No doubt you can find a high producing agent/team in your area who could use some help. You'll probably get the lower end leads and duties until you prove yourself but at least it gets you out on the streets and active.

 Thank You for the response , Do you have an idea where i can find places to join a team ? 

Post: Help Me Save My Career

Kareem LyonsPosted
  • Realtor
  • Columbus, OH
  • Posts 77
  • Votes 22
Originally posted by @Sharon Powell:

Matthew Olszak said a mouthful. Buying into Zillow etc sounds great, but with what money? Most agents are just trying to stay above water for the first few months.
There are just as many ways to be creative in lead generation as there are to finance investment deals, and it’s possible to not have to spend a dime on marketing.
As was said before, chances are pretty good that you know enough now to get things rolling. If you’re waiting for business to come to you though, that’s just not going to make you successful.
So back to your question about what to do all day... here’s what my days look like in general right now.

Mornings:
Read, reflect, review goals, work out.
Social media.
Take care of current clients.
Emails/messages/calls.
Marketing project of the day.

Afternoon:
Prep for evening showings/meetings.
Milk route. Visit builders, regular drop-bys, replenish business cards, network.
Showings/client meetings.

Evening:
Showings/client meetings.
Follow-up phone calls, texts, letters, emails.
Review day/goals, prep for next day.

Being proactive and getting- and staying- in front of people will make them think of you when they hear people talk about buying and selling. Be consistent with regular communication and face time. Bring value to others first. And above all, follow up with the leads you’re already getting.
In a nutshell, step away from that screen and go get involved in your world. :)

 Wow think you so much , I can definitely work with this format 

Post: Help Me Save My Career

Kareem LyonsPosted
  • Realtor
  • Columbus, OH
  • Posts 77
  • Votes 22
Originally posted by @Matthew Olszak:

@Kareem Lyons If you don't want leads handed to you at a high-cut, low-cost (ala team-structure), you need to generate your own - leads aren't going to fall on your lap until you get BIG. Terminate any contracts you can right now, including ZTR. PM me for some facebook groups to join and learn how to hit the phones HARD - expireds, FSBOs, and circle prospecting. Put your ZTR money towards Vulcan, EspressoAgent, Mojo dialer, and cole realty resource (at least use espresso agent). On weekends, knock on doors - find a partner if you aren't comfortable going alone, lenders can be great pals. Get a low cost monthly-pay CRM like LionDesk to put the contacts you make on a drip and hit them frequently. Get training like MoreGCI to track what productivity you need to be making each month.

Most of all, stop reading/learning. You should know enough by now, so start DOING. If you continue to "train" you are only burning time because it feels productive (like in a W2 job), but if you aren't getting results, what's that worth? You can't pay a mortgage with your "learning time". You need to be producing sales TODAY that pay out in 30-45 days. Its really not that hard to do. After 6 months you should "know" enough.

One last thing - direct mailing 60 people is a HUGE waste of money. Stop doing that. Expect a 0.5-1.5% RESPONSE rate, and even lower conversion rate. I just mailed out over 6k letters, and I'll be doing the same next week. If you can't go big, you won't go anywhere in the direct mail world. At the very very least do 200/mailing so you can get bulk-mailing rates @ around 22 cents/letter.

AND Super-Lastly - you aren't "in" real estate. You are a licensed real estate professional. Get in that mindset. Tell people that.

 Thanks a lot Matt , I always avoided cold calling due to mostly people hanging up. When you call someone and try to sell/pitch a service the first thing they think is to hang up. The thing with this business is there's so many wants to get leads that everyone has different opinion. My coach isnt a fan of cold calling but likes warm calling. I tried a passive method of door knocking with the letter pass outs but maybe I need to be more aggressive. 

Post: Help Me Save My Career

Kareem LyonsPosted
  • Realtor
  • Columbus, OH
  • Posts 77
  • Votes 22
Originally posted by @Patrice Boenzi:

@Kareem Lyons What @Zach Sikes is telling you is very accurate. Getting up and running can be difficult because, in a lot of places, no one will take the time to help you are share what they know or their stuff. There are so many resources, free ones, that can help you get started. Getting started you need a mentor. Do you have a mentor? Has someone taken the time to train you (not just on-line). I like your determination! Let me know if I can help you in any way. PM if you need something. Good Luck!

 Exactly , Yes I do have a Mentor/Coach. Your first couple weeks you meet up with a trainer to learn contracts , system access , etc. I dont think I can expect someone to take their time out to say '' Hey you'll work a couple transactions with me and split the commission. That just  doesn't seem to be how the business works. Someone will offer help and advice but you have to do it yourself.