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All Forum Posts by: Justin Phillips

Justin Phillips has started 1 posts and replied 414 times.

Post: Should I refinance w/ cash-out or use my taxable account?

Justin PhillipsPosted
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  • Phoenix, AZ
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Originally posted by @Dan Marl:
Originally posted by @Justin Phillips:

With this loan, it's less about the interest rate and more about interest cost. When all your regular deposits and idle funds are sitting on your balance, your payoff timeline is greatly condensed. Even at that average interest rate over the last 25 years, the interest only cost will be cheaper than a fully loaded PI payment. 
My wife and I are currently putting those idle funds to work, increasing our cashflow, and when the market turns we'll simply write a check and buy the next property from our line. 
For those who qualify, it's a great financial tool to have in your toolbelt! 

That's a really awesome idea. Only use the HELOC when there are opportunities!

Exactly, so you don't have opportunity cost of trapped equity, or the holding costs of cash-out. 

Post: HELOC and its effect on new mortgage rate & LTV

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Originally posted by @Dan Schwartz:

@Justin Phillips I just signed closing docs with a lender who required that DTI include a hypothetical interest-only payment on a full draw, even while the LOC has no balance. The interest rate offered for dealing with this and other overlays was more than worth it. They certainly aren't the only lender than treats LOCs that way, which is why I said there are lenders that underwrite in both manners. I know because I've closed with both.

When closing on a Heloc, the lender will definitely want to ensure you can afford the interest payments at a max-draw. Sometimes they'll even run that stress test in a number of different interest rate scenarios. Additionally, lenders can add a lot of stipulations if they please. That's why some say they can't/don't lend to self employed, because it's a lot more work for underwriting. 
I believe Manohar's question was more curious on the impact of a Heloc with $0 balance when applying for a new loan. The Heloc won't impact DTI, but to your point when lenders are looking to get extra stringent, they may call that into question.

Post: HELOC and its effect on new mortgage rate & LTV

Justin PhillipsPosted
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  • Phoenix, AZ
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Originally posted by @Dan Schwartz:

@Manohar Reddy Paduri the lender I used that didn’t include HELOCs has since been swallowed up by a larger financial institution, so I don’t think I can refer you to anyone specifically.  

Read about Fannie Mae treatment of HELOCs at this link:

https://selling-guide.fanniema...

I'm not a lender and you can't rely on my reading of the rules, but it seems to support that the unused HELOC doesn't *have* to count against DTI. Lenders can add their own rules to the Fannie Mae baseline.

A good broker with access to multiple lenders can match you up with the program that best suits your needs.  

@Manohar Reddy Paduri @Dan Schwartz
An unused Heloc shouldn't have any effect on DTI. DTI calculation is your monthly minimum debt payments compared to income. Credit/LOC/Helocs with $0 balance have a $0 minimum payment. That's one of the many benefits of a Heloc vs a Cash-Out.
When qualification is there, I always recommend everyone have a 1st position Heloc on at least one of their properties. They help DTI, increase cashflow/flexibility, and have the staying power more similar to a traditional mortgage in a downturn. 

Post: You think your rental was trashed?

Justin PhillipsPosted
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USA: We have the worst tenants/laws

UK: Hold my 6,000 Beers.

Are you looking for referrals, or just seeing what others are doing? 
Personally, I've set up a very specialized Heloc on my property. With these inflated values, it's a great time to lock-in access to equity. You'll just want to find one with some staying power, so it won't be closed when credit markets tighten. 
If you're looking for referrals, unfortunately I only know of providers in my states (CA/AZ/CO) but they're available in every state. Investment property providers are harder to find, but they're out there!  

Post: 1st position lien HELOC liquid??

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Originally posted by @John Alosio:

@Jeff S.

From what i understand, you would have access to 80~90% of the equity already in place from the beginning of the loan.

Thank you for attempting to shed some light on my question. Unfortunately sounds like "it depends"

If anyone else has some first-hand experience with one of these type of loans please feel free to chime in.

I'm starting to second guess myself on If I'm spending too much time thinking about creative strategies to accelerate my own money - not enough time finding deals and bringing OPM into the mix. I keep hearing "Just find a deal, the money will come."

Hey John, 
If a situation ever arose where you needed to show cash, you'd simply ACH transfer that money from you AIO checking account/LOC to a secondary bank account. Depending on what it's for, it may need to season, but that would be the way to do it.
You're onto a great strategy, and an incredible tool for your financial tool belt. 

@Brianna Tardi Northern AZ is really blowing up, especially on the STR side of things. Summer months are the busiest months, as everyone wants to escape the heat. You also have the fun novelty of cold/snow in the winter. I'm in Gilbert as well, and my family loves escaping up to Show Low. From what I understand, Show Low is a favorite for those coming up from Tucson with it's proximity.
I don't know Tucson very well, but if you were going to use it as a 2nd home you'd be able to get a loan for it as such. That will give you much better terms, and you should still be able to STR it out part time. 
It sounds like either one of those options would be a good possibility for you!

Post: New member from Northern CO

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Welcome Kevin! You're definitely in the right place to grow your REI knowledge!
Your first step will definitely be finding which method(s) appeals to you most. Buy and Hold, BRRR, House-Hacking, STRs, Large Multifamily.
You'll want to be sure to run your numbers conservatively, especially in this inflated market we're in now. You'll find many helpful tools and strategies right here on BP. All the best! 

Post: Zillow getting into flipping??

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I have a buddy that works for Zillow, and their home buying/flipping is becoming a bigger and bigger part of their business. I don't love the idea of having a 25Billion dollar company being potential competition, but that's business today. Currently they're only in select markets, but I'm sure they'll continue to branch out.
On the bright side, it won't hurt values!  

Post: Greetings from Phoenix, AZ!

Justin PhillipsPosted
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From one finance nerd to another, welcome! You're in the right place, great info and community here on BP. I look forward to growing alongside you.