All Forum Posts by: Justin Buswell

After a couple years and a couple different programs I can confidently say skip them all except Vena Jones Cox's the Guru Manifesto.  That one says it all.

 So this review was not complete and then I could not edit it - That's what happens when you do things late at night.  I have not gotten my site up yet or dialed in.  There are a ton of people in the group who are doing really well with the 2 programs.  The ones that come from Carrot are really happy with grumpyhair hosting and say their sites rank better.  I have personally seen several of these in the top spot.

  The offering appears to constantly improve and expand.  I'll report back  when I get my site deployed.  Its been a lot of work but the end is in site.  I also opted into the done for you service and that seems to be the right choice for me.  Jerryl is super knowledgeable and helpful.

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Well there is an entire conference that would have been held this week if not for the hurricane about stopping Pace and the gator bois. It may even have had some DOJ interest. 

 you spend a lot of time trolling Pace on this Forum.  We get it.  You don't like him.  Enough man.   I'm no fan either but you're obsessed.

 Yeah no. I am working to stop him. Just block me boi 

 well good luck.  Honestly, with the way his org works I'd be worried that they find a way to come after you.  THat said there is a ton of positive value in the offerings.  Yes there is a dark side but there is a ton of positive.

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Well there is an entire conference that would have been held this week if not for the hurricane about stopping Pace and the gator bois. It may even have had some DOJ interest. 

 you spend a lot of time trolling Pace on this Forum.  We get it.  You don't like him.  Enough man.   I'm no fan either but you're obsessed.

I’m not a fan of Pace either, but  Why a whole conference?  There are people that do Sub2 respectfully and do not promote it to everybody, nor shove it down their throat.

Ostensibly to network with other subto folks.  Just like BP Con or one of the 100s of others.   ITs also important to know that while PAce has taken "Subto" like he created it the group deals with everything in real estate.  Not just subto.   Wholesaling, mindset, disposition, systems, multifamily, underwriting, on and on.  Of course creative finance as well.  

The network is really good for some people.  Some people make a lot of partners and friends in the group.  That is why there is a conference.

I personally have lent and invested in 5 deals due to networking int he group.  They have all turned (So far) well for me.  I know many people who got taken and the PM org did nothing for them other than told them not to post about it in the Facebook group.

Of course, Pace and his friends will be hawking stuff too.  He is the ultimate sales guy.  EVERYTHING he does is about monetization.  EVERYTHING.  Not to say there is not value there if you don't buy something.  There is.

so what is the name of this conference and where is it being held ?

 Sqad Up Dallas.  https://www.squadupsummit.com/

No idea if you can just go if you are not a member.  They were offering us a really cheap ticket this year which was nice.  Im not going.  

OK got it.. no different than going to a Tony Robbins event you have all the likely suspects selling their version of how to get rich and or take control of your personal affairs.

Or in my day a Zig Zeigler event ( I loved that guy) or Robert Schuler would have some top speakers at his events as well.

 I love Zig too.  Met him back in the day.  

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Well there is an entire conference that would have been held this week if not for the hurricane about stopping Pace and the gator bois. It may even have had some DOJ interest. 

 you spend a lot of time trolling Pace on this Forum.  We get it.  You don't like him.  Enough man.   I'm no fan either but you're obsessed.

I’m not a fan of Pace either, but  Why a whole conference?  There are people that do Sub2 respectfully and do not promote it to everybody, nor shove it down their throat.

Ostensibly to network with other subto folks.  Just like BP Con or one of the 100s of others.   ITs also important to know that while PAce has taken "Subto" like he created it the group deals with everything in real estate.  Not just subto.   Wholesaling, mindset, disposition, systems, multifamily, underwriting, on and on.  Of course creative finance as well.  

The network is really good for some people.  Some people make a lot of partners and friends in the group.  That is why there is a conference.

I personally have lent and invested in 5 deals due to networking int he group.  They have all turned (So far) well for me.  I know many people who got taken and the PM org did nothing for them other than told them not to post about it in the Facebook group.

Of course, Pace and his friends will be hawking stuff too.  He is the ultimate sales guy.  EVERYTHING he does is about monetization.  EVERYTHING.  Not to say there is not value there if you don't buy something.  There is.

so what is the name of this conference and where is it being held ?

 Sqad Up Dallas.  https://www.squadupsummit.com/

No idea if you can just go if you are not a member.  They were offering us a really cheap ticket this year which was nice.  Im not going.  

 100%.  

 100% true.  Also be aware.  The PM org has formalized their referral program.  They are training all the members as salespeople with their own referral link.  As I have said they can throw people out for negativity so you will unlikely get a true and honest review from anyone in a forum like this.

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Well there is an entire conference that would have been held this week if not for the hurricane about stopping Pace and the gator bois. It may even have had some DOJ interest. 

 you spend a lot of time trolling Pace on this Forum.  We get it.  You don't like him.  Enough man.   I'm no fan either but you're obsessed.

I’m not a fan of Pace either, but  Why a whole conference?  There are people that do Sub2 respectfully and do not promote it to everybody, nor shove it down their throat.

Ostensibly to network with other subto folks.  Just like BP Con or one of the 100s of others.   ITs also important to know that while PAce has taken "Subto" like he created it the group deals with everything in real estate.  Not just subto.   Wholesaling, mindset, disposition, systems, multifamily, underwriting, on and on.  Of course creative finance as well.  

The network is really good for some people.  Some people make a lot of partners and friends in the group.  That is why there is a conference.

I personally have lent and invested in 5 deals due to networking int he group.  They have all turned (So far) well for me.  I know many people who got taken and the PM org did nothing for them other than told them not to post about it in the Facebook group.

Of course, Pace and his friends will be hawking stuff too.  He is the ultimate sales guy.  EVERYTHING he does is about monetization.  EVERYTHING.  Not to say there is not value there if you don't buy something.  There is.

I've been a member of Gator and Sub2 for 2 years. I've made money because of both. They are both worth every cent.

That said they are both oversold on what they will do for you.  More than 50% (guessing) get nothing out of the program.  I've spoken to many many people who backed off on the program.  I've spoken to a ton who think Pace is a crook.  I've spoken to a ton that think Pace is the 2nd coming who walks on water and pees liquid silver.  The zealots are the worst!

There are a ton of scammers, liars, and low-quality humans in the group. There are also a ton of people there just to sell to you as a member.  Then there is everyone else.  Normal people who were sold a dream and read all the content and try to apply it.  Many of them screw up.  Many more don't 

Each group has a facebook group that is HEAVILY sculpted, censored and injected with propaganda.  So if you do get ripped off, or warn people of ripp offs your post gets deleted and you get a warning.  Do it too much they remove you from the Facebook Group.

This is the worst part of the Group and the reason I can't recommend it to anyone.  That and that it is first and foremost the top of the funnel for the PM organization to keep getting money out of you.

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Well there is an entire conference that would have been held this week if not for the hurricane about stopping Pace and the gator bois. It may even have had some DOJ interest. 

 you spend a lot of time trolling Pace on this Forum.  We get it.  You don't like him.  Enough man.   I'm no fan either but you're obsessed.