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All Forum Posts by: Jose N.

Jose N. has started 13 posts and replied 21 times.

Post: Looking for a JV partner for experienced Detroit investor.

Jose N.Posted
  • Investor
  • Ft. Lauderdale, FL
  • Posts 21
  • Votes 7

I currently own and manage 32 single family homes successfully in Detroit.  I have everything in place and stabilized with 100 percent occupancy at market rate rents. 

I'm looking to partner with someone who has the capital, but does not necessarily have the knowledge or resources to be successful in Detroit. I'm open to discuss and come with a plan that we can mutually benefit from.

Post: High maintenance costs.

Jose N.Posted
  • Investor
  • Ft. Lauderdale, FL
  • Posts 21
  • Votes 7
Quote from @Travis Biziorek:
Quote from @Jose N.:
Quote from @Travis Biziorek:
Quote from @Jose N.:

What are the options to help mitigate maintenance costs. These vintage Detroit homes are lovely but they sure are higher maintenance due to their age. Service warranties? A recommend contractor? Any experienced advice would help and be greatly appreciated.

Easiest way to avoid this is to rip off the bandaid and do it right with the large capex items.

Detroit homes are pretty simplistic, especially if you're buying a bungalow. You really have:

- Roof

- Plumbing

- Electrical

I replaced a roof the other month on a 1931 built brick Tudor for $10,500. It had three layers of shingles on top of original cedar shake. I won't have to do this again for 20+ years.

Electrical in most of these homes is usually sufficient unless you still have knob and tube. 

Plumbing is the biggest culprit in these older homes. The stuff you can see has likely been converted to pex. But it's the stuff you don't see that will need attention. The main stack, drain lines in the basement floor, trap and the sewer line to the city main are the big ones.

You can either knock these out as they become problems or bite the bullet and spend the money. I've taken the former approach but I may start fully doing one house per year here soon just to get it out of the way.

What issues, exactly, are you dealing with? 

I'd say it's mainly the plumbing, the infamous "stack" and the cast iron drain lines and the galvanized water lines behind the walls. I picked up a portfolio of homes the previous owner had for 15+ years so I'm dealing with what seems to be a lot of deferred maintenance. The previous owner thought it was a great idea to install central air in 14 of the units.  I changed the roof (full tear off) on a colonial including it's garage in E English village for $9k which I thought was pretty good. I'm not new to being a landlord in Florida, but am newer (1 year) to being one in Detroit. I have 21 homes mainly bungalows and a 2 unit flat throughout the east and west sides. 


Sounds pretty normal. And this is exactly why I tell people to take it slow with 1-2 properties at first before scaling. 

I hope you have a small war chest to get these homes up-to-speed. 

I started with one, then every couple of months added 1 up to the 7th unit, then took a plunge on my first portfolio. I think I've made some good connections thus far. A handyman that does honest work (had a few that didn't and one that ran off with a few hundred bucks). A good contractor that has established themselves in Detroit and a realtor/broker that runs all over Detroit checking out properties I find on and off markets. During this year, I've experienced inheriting a crooked property manager I let go on day 1 that tried collecting rents from tenants weeks after, an eviction (same person) and a successful lawsuit against a non performing seller that backed out the day of closing. I've learned and have grown, this gig is not for the weak. 

Post: High maintenance costs.

Jose N.Posted
  • Investor
  • Ft. Lauderdale, FL
  • Posts 21
  • Votes 7
Quote from @Travis Biziorek:
Quote from @Jose N.:

What are the options to help mitigate maintenance costs. These vintage Detroit homes are lovely but they sure are higher maintenance due to their age. Service warranties? A recommend contractor? Any experienced advice would help and be greatly appreciated.

Easiest way to avoid this is to rip off the bandaid and do it right with the large capex items.

Detroit homes are pretty simplistic, especially if you're buying a bungalow. You really have:

- Roof

- Plumbing

- Electrical

I replaced a roof the other month on a 1931 built brick Tudor for $10,500. It had three layers of shingles on top of original cedar shake. I won't have to do this again for 20+ years.

Electrical in most of these homes is usually sufficient unless you still have knob and tube. 

Plumbing is the biggest culprit in these older homes. The stuff you can see has likely been converted to pex. But it's the stuff you don't see that will need attention. The main stack, drain lines in the basement floor, trap and the sewer line to the city main are the big ones.

You can either knock these out as they become problems or bite the bullet and spend the money. I've taken the former approach but I may start fully doing one house per year here soon just to get it out of the way.

What issues, exactly, are you dealing with? 

I'd say it's mainly the plumbing, the infamous "stack" and the cast iron drain lines and the galvanized water lines behind the walls. I picked up a portfolio of homes the previous owner had for 15+ years so I'm dealing with what seems to be a lot of deferred maintenance. The previous owner thought it was a great idea to install central air in 14 of the units.  I changed the roof (full tear off) on a colonial including it's garage in E English village for $9k which I thought was pretty good. I'm not new to being a landlord in Florida, but am newer (1 year) to being one in Detroit. I have 21 homes mainly bungalows and a 2 unit flat throughout the east and west sides. 

Post: High maintenance costs.

Jose N.Posted
  • Investor
  • Ft. Lauderdale, FL
  • Posts 21
  • Votes 7
Quote from @Kevin Sobilo:

@Jose N., I'm in a market with older houses and I don't think the age of the house has much to do with the maintenance cost. In fact, I would suspect on a dollar basis they may be cheaper! For example a new house might have central air where an old house has tenant provided window a/c so the maintenance cost is shifted to the tenant.

A few more practical things to think about:

1. A purchased warranty is like insurance. They make LOTS of money for the company because they pay out much less than you pay them! So, they aren't a way to save you money only to protect you against things you can't cope with on your own.

2. I would say the most important thing is to be proactive! If you wait for an emergency to happen it is the most expensive time to deal with the issue.

To that end you could do regular inspections to identify issues before they grow into bigger problems.

Look at every aspect of the house for things that could become issues. For example where does water drain on the property. Roofs, flashing, gutters, downspouts, grading all are important things with shedding water off of and away from a house but people often don't think about these things until they have a problem that has caused damage and then its expensive!

3. Develop relationships with different providers so that you know how they operate and how they charge before you call them.

4. Hire the right provider for the right job! Many issues can be addressed by a cheaper handyman rather than hiring a top notch contractor. Many contractors will charge more for a small job because they really don't want those jobs. So, when you have a toilet that won't stop running call a handyman to replace the internals of the toiler instead of a plumber.

5. Plan ahead for more serious issues. A common serious issue would be no heat in winter time. Paying a plumber extra for an off hours call runs your bill up. Be proactive and have a plan in place. In some of my properties I have a 2nd heat source. That could be as simple as adding a couple large strips of electric baseboard in the downstairs to provide heat in an emergency. If you are having electrical work done, you tend to get better pricing for a larger job so adding on this work is more economical at that time.

6. Use turnover time to its best advantage! When the unit is vacant is an ideal time to address issues because its easy to work on and isn't impacting a tenant. It's also easier to identify work that needs to be done. So, instead of dreading the lost rent (opportunity cost) of the vacancy focus on the opportunity the vacancy provides. 


 Thank you, you've made some valid points.

Post: High maintenance costs.

Jose N.Posted
  • Investor
  • Ft. Lauderdale, FL
  • Posts 21
  • Votes 7

What are the options to help mitigate maintenance costs. These vintage Detroit homes are lovely but they sure are higher maintenance due to their age. Service warranties? A recommend contractor? Any experienced advice would help and be greatly appreciated.

I'm looking at the protocol to register and then have the safety and lead risk inspections, fix any issues and ultimately get the certificate of compliance for 3 years, then repeat. Or the alternatives are to receive BSEED tickets, tenants can put rent in escrow, etc. Why do around 90 percent of landlords, even ones with decent houses choose to not comply in getting the CoC?

Post: MG Servicing Incorporated

Jose N.Posted
  • Investor
  • Ft. Lauderdale, FL
  • Posts 21
  • Votes 7

My guess is that they are legitimate but maybe use different domain names that funnel to the same investor/s for private lending deals. So long as money is not asked for upfront and you have the option to use your own title company, my guess is that the only risk then is giving up your private information. 

Post: Finding a lender who finances a portfolio of houses in Detroit

Jose N.Posted
  • Investor
  • Ft. Lauderdale, FL
  • Posts 21
  • Votes 7

Yes, they are tenant occupied SFR around $60k, 3 bedroom brick houses on decent streets.

Post: MG Servicing Incorporated

Jose N.Posted
  • Investor
  • Ft. Lauderdale, FL
  • Posts 21
  • Votes 7

I reached out to them today calling their 813 area code number (Tampa FL) which sounded like it linked to a remote number and had a brief conversation with Michael. He asked for an appraisal on one of my properties in Florida and seemed ok with taking a second lien position. I asked about costs/rate/terms and he said "6 percent" interest for 5 years.  Their registered domain name is new, registered on January of 2024 and registered for 1 year. https://www.whois.com/whois/mgservicingincorporated.com I've dealt with hard money before with clients so I understand that its not going to be presented as polished as an established lender or bank. I'll keep tabs on this thread to see if someone else has any deeper experience with them before I proceed. 

Post: Finding a lender who finances a portfolio of houses in Detroit

Jose N.Posted
  • Investor
  • Ft. Lauderdale, FL
  • Posts 21
  • Votes 7

Hi,

I've been buying houses, one by one in Detroit using traditional lending (Conventional and DSCR). I've found a portfolio of 15 homes (could be split if necessary) but wanted to know where I can find a lender that will finance it in its entirety instead of individually? Im not sure if this is called a blanket or portfolio mortgage. Any input would be greatly appreciated, thank you.