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All Forum Posts by: Jordan Ray

Jordan Ray has started 24 posts and replied 372 times.

Post: Forming an LLC - Memphis Investor Living Out-of-State

Jordan Ray
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  • Real Estate Agent
  • Memphis, TN
  • Posts 388
  • Votes 184
Quote from @Pradeep R.:

thank you for the quick response 

The other concern i had creating an holding llc like WY holding the  TN llc is the franchise amd exercise tax. Would i be exempt on the tax if the TN llc is not owned by me rather WY llc does?  


I'm sure you will be exempt. For the standard LLC holding LTRs in TN, the franchise & excise tax can be applied for exemption annually. I don't think that would be an issue but you can always call TN Department of Revenue and ask them that question for a precise answer.

Post: Forming an LLC - Memphis Investor Living Out-of-State

Jordan Ray
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  • Real Estate Agent
  • Memphis, TN
  • Posts 388
  • Votes 184
Quote from @Pradeep R.:

I am looking into llc formation as well. Does it make it fool proof having a regular llc or a series llc hold the properties for a TN llc

The other question is - i have heard from a few just have a TN llc is a not sufficient enough as there is no charging order protection in TN so the recommend asset properties structure is -> put the TN properties into a TN llc and the create a holding llc in WY to hold the TN created llc

Let me know if this is really needed??


Hey Pradeep, Both a standard TN LLC and a series LLC can serve to hold properties, but they each come with distinct considerations. A series LLC allows for segregation of assets within one entity, though its benefits depend on how well other states recognize and enforce the structure. In contrast, a traditional TN LLC may face challenges due to limited charging order protection, potentially making it less secure against creditor actions.

To address these concerns, some investors use a two-tier structure where a TN LLC—holding the property—is owned by a Wyoming holding LLC, benefiting from stronger asset protection laws. While a properly maintained TN LLC might be sufficient for those who diligently follow corporate formalities, the additional layer provided by the Wyoming entity can offer significant extra protection, albeit with increased complexity and cost. Ultimately, the best approach depends on your specific risk tolerance and investment situation, making professional legal advice a wise step in tailoring your strategy. I personally only use TN LLC because I am diligently maintaining all corporate formalities and staying up date with state LLC laws, this is my personal choice but again.. this all depends on your specific risk tolerance and investment situation. Hope this helps!

Post: My First Rental Property

Jordan Ray
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  • Real Estate Agent
  • Memphis, TN
  • Posts 388
  • Votes 184
Quote from @Anthony Michael Hamza:

Investment Info:

Single-family residence buy & hold investment.

Purchase price: $340,000
Cash invested: $110,000

This is my first rental property. Began renting the property out in June 2024 for $4,500 per month. With a 2.25% IR, total monthly expenses are at about $2,000 currently. No HOA, single family home. Put A little over $100,000 into renovations, mainly solidifying the property against hurricanes with impact windows & doors and a metal roof, but also some cosmetic stuff like floors, lighting and paint, etc. I am still new to a lot of the REI terminology and calculations, so I'm just using the amount spent on renovations as my "cash invested." I was a Realtor when I purchased it in 2019 and I used my commission towards the closing costs and I am a U.S. Army Veteran so I was fortunate not to have a lot of the typical expenses or a down payment. After living in the property form 2019 to 2024, my wife and I moved up to Maryland for a new job. We purchased our second property in August 2024, a townhouse this time, in Odenton, MD. With the interest rates and market prices, I am not sure this will be as great with returns. My goal is similar to the BRRRR method, and I want to hold on to rentals and create cashflow. My next property will hopefully be a multifamily. Hoping to learn a lot from this community.


Hi Anthony,

Great job on your first rental property! Your proactive approach—especially the hurricane-proof renovations—really positions you well in terms of asset protection and long-term value. It’s impressive that you managed to keep your monthly expenses relatively low while securing a strong rent of $4,500.

Your background as a Realtor and the benefits you leveraged as a veteran clearly gave you an edge. As you move into your townhouse in Odenton and eventually aim for multifamily properties, you might want to start refining your metrics (like cash-on-cash return and cap rate) to compare performance across different property types.

Looking forward to seeing how your portfolio evolves. Welcome to the community, and best of luck with your next ventures! Let me know if you ever decide to invest on Memphis TN at all!

Post: BRRRR Help Questions

Jordan Ray
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  • Real Estate Agent
  • Memphis, TN
  • Posts 388
  • Votes 184
Quote from @Seth Gordon:

Any experienced investors familiar with the BRRRR method care to connect and answer some questions I have?


Hey Seth,

I'd be happy to connect and answer any questions you have about the BRRRR method! I have a lot of personal experience with BRRRR—both from building my own rental portfolio here in Memphis, TN and from helping both local and out-of-state investors successfully scale their portfolios using this strategy.

One of the biggest advantages I've been able to offer my clients is structuring deals with hard money lenders in a way that allows them to acquire properties with less than $10,000 out of pocket in most cases which results them in massive cash on cash returns! Memphis has been an amazing market for BRRRR due to its affordable property prices, strong rental demand, and solid cash flow potential.

Would love to hop on a call and go over your questions—let me know when you’re available!

Post: Investor Looking to Connect

Jordan Ray
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  • Real Estate Agent
  • Memphis, TN
  • Posts 388
  • Votes 184
Quote from @Nishil Kothary:

Hi BP Community!

I am looking to buy my first investment property and have seen strong fundamentals in Indianapolis (job growth, population and median wage).

As an out of state investor, I am looking to connect with investors/agents in the area to build further knowledge on specifics with the markets and hopefully bring business to in the future!

Looking forward to connecting.

Best,
Nish


Hey Nish,

Welcome to BiggerPockets! It’s great to see you doing your research and looking into strong markets like Indianapolis for your first investment property! That said, I’d encourage you to take a look at Memphis, TN as well. Memphis has been a hot market for investors due to its affordable property prices, strong rental demand, friendly landlord laws, and steady job growth—all key fundamentals for cash-flowing investments.

As an agent that always works with out-of-state investors, I know how crucial it is to have the right team in place. I've built a solid network of contractors, hard money lenders, conventional/DSCR lenders, and property management companies that serve as my trusted boots on the ground contacts in Memphis. Having a team you can count on makes all the difference, especially when investing remotely.

If you’re open to it, I’d love to connect and share some insights on why Memphis might be a great addition to your investment strategy. Let me know! Talk soon!

Post: When to Sell or keep?

Jordan Ray
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  • Real Estate Agent
  • Memphis, TN
  • Posts 388
  • Votes 184
Quote from @Shunnel Williams:

Hi all!

Reaching out for your experienced opinion on my current conflicting battle on whether to sell or keep.

I purchased my very 1st investment property in Jan 2023- it’s a Mother/daughter. The property was occupied (still is) with 1 tenant that I am now having the exhausting pleasure of evicting. 2yrs later, said tenant continues to try every angle to delay the court granted Marshall’s execution.

The “2nd” floor was poorly renovated (bad contractors), new tenant moved in and a year later, another eviction process has started as they lost their job and refuse to move or pay.

Stuck with a very large mortgage bill (that I am paying), utilities and making small repairs to keep the property up also noting the casual 311 complaints from both tenants. I’m now struggling financially. I don’t see the value with time and effort owning this place but as a new investor, I can’t help but to consider if I hold on to it- if it will then become net positive.

I refi in Oct 2024. Purchase price $525K, appraised for $760k (no major nor significant Reno was had). 

NYC eviction process is not for the weak. Unsure with the amount of Reno needed, tenant occupied and evictions in place - if the property will sell as it. 

What advice can you provide if any. 

Thanking you all in advance. 

 First off, I want to acknowledge how tough this situation is—especially as a first investment property. It sounds like NYC’s eviction process is notoriously difficult, and carrying a large mortgage while dealing with non-paying tenants is draining both financially and emotionally. When deciding whether to sell or hold, I’d suggest framing it through two key lenses:

1. Will this property help you achieve your long-term investment goals?

- If it continues to drain your resources and energy without a clear path to profitability, it may not be the right fit for your portfolio.

- A property should work for you, not the other way around. If it's becoming a financial and operational burden with no strong upside, cutting losses may be the best move.

2. The Opportunity Cost of Holding vs. Selling

- Even if this property eventually turns net positive, at what cost? Could that time, effort, and capital be better deployed elsewhere?

- You have an appraised value of $760K after your refinance last October. Depending on your equity position and market conditions, you might be able to sell and reallocate that capital into a more stable, cash-flowing investment by a 1031 exchange rather than waiting for a turnaround that may never come.

- Sometimes, the best move is letting go of a problem property so you can redeploy funds into an asset that aligns better with your long-term goals.

    That said, if selling now would put you in a worse financial position (due to tenant complications or a distressed sale), you may need to stabilize it first. One potential approach could be strategic renovations and a better tenant placement process after the evictions. But if the stress and financial burden are outweighing the potential upside, this might be a great time to cut losses, free up capital, and reset for a more promising opportunity.

    At the end of the day, successful investors make decisions not based on sunk costs but on future potential. If this property no longer aligns with your vision, it might be time to move on. Wishing you the best—tough decisions like this are what build true investing experience!

    Post: Help Picking an OOS Market- My story below

    Jordan Ray
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    • Real Estate Agent
    • Memphis, TN
    • Posts 388
    • Votes 184
    Quote from @Shaylynn O'Leary:

    I need help picking an OOS market. Let me tell you my back story. I live in Central Oregon where the median home price is approximately $725k. I have recently obtained a property off market that we’re flipping and wanting to reinvest most of the proceeds into an OOS market that is more affordable. We are not interested in owning rentals in Oregon, only flipping.

    Our goal is to have a small but mighty portfolio, much like Chad Carson’s model he describes in his book and podcast. We want to use proceeds from our flips here in Central Oregon to acquire and eventually pay off properties in a more affordable market.

    We prefer multifamily properties where we will do a mix of MTR & LTR, but also open to SF. The properties do not have to cash flow a significant amount (although I wouldn’t hate that) they just have to sustain themselves as we have three incomes between us and not looking to quit our W2’s to live off cash flow.

    My problem: I’m having a hard time picking a market that meets my goals. Some markets I have considered are:

    • St. Louis, Mo
    • Kansas City, MO
    • Indianapolis, IN
    • Dayton, OH
    • Raleigh (area), NC

    I would appreciate any insight and time anyone is willing to give. Thank you.


     Hey Shaylynn, Sounds like you have a solid strategy in place, and I love the ‘small but mighty’ approach inspired by Chad Carson! Given your criteria—affordable multifamily opportunities, a mix of MTR & LTR, and properties that sustain themselves—I’d encourage you to take a serious look at Memphis, TN.

    Memphis offers a strong rental demand due to its affordability, job growth, and a high percentage of renters (over 50% of the population). The city has a diverse economy driven by logistics, healthcare, and FedEx’s headquarters, which help maintain consistent housing demand. Multifamily properties in Memphis are still reasonably priced compared to other markets, and landlords benefit from landlord-friendly laws and relatively low property taxes.

    Additionally, many investors have successfully implemented the strategy you’re considering—acquiring and eventually paying off properties while maintaining steady cash flow. If you’re open to diving deeper into the Memphis market, I’d be happy to share more insights & connect you with local investors I currently work with that have seen recent success here!

    Would love to hear your thoughts—have you considered Memphis in your research?

    Post: Memphis Experience with James Wachob (Foundation Property Management / TurnkeyInvest)

    Jordan Ray
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    • Real Estate Agent
    • Memphis, TN
    • Posts 388
    • Votes 184

    Post: How do you verify that tenants have insurance?

    Jordan Ray
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    • Real Estate Agent
    • Memphis, TN
    • Posts 388
    • Votes 184

    Its actually called "interested party" but you need to be listed as this on their policy and they will send you mail notifications

    Post: Landlord Insurance Recs

    Jordan Ray
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    • Real Estate Agent
    • Memphis, TN
    • Posts 388
    • Votes 184
    Quote from @Kevin Lee:

    Looking for recommendations for LL insurance for Memphis and Houston.  Would love to know who you used and what your premium looks like if you're willing to share. Open to online only quotes as I have limited phone usage during my workday.  Thank you!


    LLC insurance? You mean business insurance? Are you running a short term rental operation? If you are build a portfolio of LTRs you don't need business insurance, only a landlord policy per rental.