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All Forum Posts by: Jordan Ray

Jordan Ray has started 21 posts and replied 359 times.

Post: Hello - Newbie, be gental

Jordan Ray
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  • Real Estate Agent
  • Memphis, TN
  • Posts 374
  • Votes 181
Quote from @Brian James:

I am 55 years old and looking to build wealth through real estate. Primarily in multi-family units 2-4 units to start, then scale quickly. There is no need to remove cash flow now; just keep reinvesting. Just doing research now, hoping to close first deal (maybe 2) before end of 2025.


Hey Brian, Great strategy! Memphis is a strong market for cash-flowing multi-family properties, especially in the 2-4 unit space. With the right approach, you can definitely scale quickly while reinvesting your returns.

Are you looking at a specific property in Memphis, or still evaluating options? I'm always involved in real estate investing with clients and building my own portfolio and would be happy to connect, share insights on the market, and maybe even discuss potential deals. Let’s make sure you’re set up for success before the end of 2025! Talk soon!

Post: Memphis Property availability

Jordan Ray
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  • Real Estate Agent
  • Memphis, TN
  • Posts 374
  • Votes 181
Quote from @Antoine C.:

Hello bigger pockets family, my wife and I just moved to Memphis area and need a place to reside for 1yr to long term. We don’t smoke, drink, or have pets. We don’t have a lot of stuff. 2 bed and 1 bath with a garage would be nice. The neighborhood must be safe and secure. Does anyone have any properties and connections that can help?


Hey Antoine, not sure I have seen any 2bed/1bath with a garage in Memphis but I could be wrong. I have a few 2bed/1bath properties available. I also have a 2bed/2bath available in Hickory Hill that is offering seller financing at 5541 Crepe Myrtle Dr, Memphis, TN 38115. Let me know if you are interested!

Post: 686-688 Westview Rd, Memphis, TN 38109

Jordan Ray
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  • Real Estate Agent
  • Memphis, TN
  • Posts 374
  • Votes 181
Quote from @James Wachob:

Investment Info:

Small multi-family (2-4 units) buy & hold investment.

Sale price: $175,000

Charming Duplex – Fully Renovated with Modern Upgrades
686-688 Westview Rd, Memphis, TN 38109

This beautifully renovated duplex offers modern comfort and stylish upgrades throughout. Each unit features 2 bedrooms and 1 bathroom, providing a total of 4 bedrooms and 2 bathrooms across 1,684 sq. ft. of heated living space.

Key Features & Upgrades:
New Roof for long-term durability
Fresh Exterior & Interior Paint for a modern and inviting look
New Interior & Exterior Doors with updated locksets for added security
Luxury Vinyl Plank (LVP) Flooring throughout, combining style and durability
Fully Renovated Kitchens featuring brand-new cabinetry and quartz countertops
Updated Bathrooms with new tiled tub surrounds, vanities, and toilet seats
New Light Fixtures & Mini Blinds installed throughout the property
Complete HVAC System Replacement for Unit 686 & New Condenser & A-coil for Unit 688
Plumbing Upgrades including new water heaters, updated faucets, leak detection, and a cleanout drain installation
Security & Hardware Updates with rekeyed locks, new smoke alarm batteries, door hardware, and cabinet adjustments
New Landscaping to enhance curb appeal
This turnkey property is ideal for homeowners or investors seeking a low-maintenance, move-in-ready duplex in a prime Memphis location.


 Nice!! I went and saw this one when it was listed! Looks good!

Post: 686-688 Westview Rd, Memphis, TN 38109

Jordan Ray
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  • Real Estate Agent
  • Memphis, TN
  • Posts 374
  • Votes 181
Quote from @James Wachob:

Investment Info:

Small multi-family (2-4 units) buy & hold investment.

Sale price: $175,000

Key Features & Upgrades

-New roof, fresh interior & exterior paint
-Luxury Vinyl Plank (LVP) flooring throughout
-New doors with updated locksets
-Rekeyed locks & updated hardware
-New kitchen cabinets & quartz countertops
-Updated bathrooms with tiled tub surrounds, new vanities & toilets
-New light fixtures & mini blinds
-Full HVAC replacement (686) & condenser/A-coil (688)
-New water heaters, plumbing updates & landscaping


Nice!! I went and saw this one when it was listed! Looks good! 

Post: New to the Forums

Jordan Ray
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  • Real Estate Agent
  • Memphis, TN
  • Posts 374
  • Votes 181
Quote from @Justin Kemper:

Hey Everyone! I have been listening to bigger pockets podcasts for a few years now and have read a few of the books by David Greene, Brandon Turner and Dave Meyer. I have since passed my Real Estate License Exam and plan to be more active in the forums. I look forward to our future discussions and learning/growing together.

Justin! Welcome to the BiggerPockets community! It’s awesome to hear you’ve been diving deep into the podcasts and books—David, Brandon, and Dave put out some amazing content. Congrats on passing your real estate exam!  Looking forward to seeing you around the forums and hearing about your journey of real estate and investing! This is a great place to learn, connect, and grow together. Wishing you all the best in your investing and real estate career! Let me know if there is anything I can do for you from the Memphis area! Would love to connect and give you some golden nuggets! Talk soon!

Post: Diving in and took closing on my first house

Jordan Ray
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  • Real Estate Agent
  • Memphis, TN
  • Posts 374
  • Votes 181
Quote from @Aaron Rushton:

Hello everyone! I'm excited to share that I've finally taken the plunge into real estate after a long search! I'm closing on my first single-family home in the Memphis area, which I plan to turn into a long-term rental. My goal is to place tenants soon and then move on to my next investment.

While it sounds straightforward to rinse and repeat, now that I have this property, I'm wondering what my next steps should be. I want to minimize my out-of-pocket expenses and am considering using a HELOC on my home or leveraging the equity from my first rental down the line. What suggestions do you all have?


Hey Aaron, Congrats on your first investment property! Taking that first step is huge, and it sounds like you're already thinking strategically about scaling.

If you're looking to minimize out-of-pocket expenses and maximize leverage, you might want to check out Avalon Capital’s 100% purchase & 100% rehab hard money loan. In many of the rental-friendly areas of Memphis, their loan product often results in out-of-pocket costs of less than $10,000 per property, which can significantly boost your cash-on-cash return. This could be a great way to scale faster without tying up a lot of your own capital.

As for using a HELOC, I wouldn't recommend locking one up on an investment property. Unlike HELOCs on a primary residence, investment property HELOCs tend to have higher interest rates, stricter terms, and the risk of being frozen or called due by the lender. If you do use a HELOC, it should be treated as a short-term access to capital, not a long-term financing solution. Always have a plan to pay it off quickly and free up the credit line for your next deal.

Regarding pulling equity from your first property to fund the second one, this usually doesn’t make sense in the early stages. In most cases, cash flow is already tight, and adding debt could put extra strain on your returns. This type of strategy typically works better after 10+ years of holding, when appreciation and loan paydown have built up enough equity to make the numbers work. 

Post: PM Fees - Too Much or Normal?

Jordan Ray
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  • Real Estate Agent
  • Memphis, TN
  • Posts 374
  • Votes 181
Quote from @Chani Walker:

I'm helping my MIL get her apartment set up as a LTR in Memphis. She found a PM through a friend in the building and they sent me the contract to review. The fees seem far above what I expected, but I manage my own rentals in FL so am not familiar with PM fees in general. I have listed the fee structure below. If you have any experience or knowledge in the Memphis area, will you please share your insight as to whether this is a normal fee breakdown or too much. If too much, do you have any PM recs?

Management & Leasing Fees

  1. Management Fee: 10% of the monthly rent = $180/month
  2. Leasing Fee (Tenant Placement): 60% of one month’s rent = $1,080 (one-time)
  3. Lease Renewal Fee: $250 per lease renewal

Upfront & Annual Fees

  1. Onboarding Fee: $350 (one-time for setting up the property)
  2. Annual Administrative Fee: $45 per year (for statements and 1099s)
  3. Reserve Fund Requirement: $300 (held for maintenance and expenses)

Maintenance & Repairs

  1. Ordinary Maintenance: Any repair costs exceeding $300 require owner approval.
  2. Emergency Repairs: Up to $300 without prior approval; HVAC, plumbing, and electrical repairs can go up to $500 without approval.
  3. Home Warranty Claim Handling: $40 per claim (if applicable).
  4. Multiple Quotes Request Fee: $100 per request if you require multiple vendor quotes.
  5. HVAC Filter Supply Fee: $195 per year per HVAC unit.
  6. Repairs & Improvements: 10% markup over vendor invoice cost.

Additional Fees

  1. Interest on Unpaid Sums: 10% late fee with a $39 minimum per month.
  2. Paper Check Administrative Fee: $20 per check if not using direct deposit.
  3. Insurance Documentation Penalty: $40 per month if proof of insurance is not provided.
  4. Eviction Protection Program (Optional): $15/month
  5. Property Damage Protection Program (Optional): $25/month

Termination Fees

  1. Early Termination Fee: Equal to the management fees for the remaining lease term.
  2. Vacant Property Termination Fee: $500 if no tenant is in place.
  3. Transfer to Another Manager: $500 file transfer fee.

Hey Chani, It looks like this PM company has a fairly detailed fee structure, which is good for transparency, but some of these fees do seem on the higher end, especially for Memphis. A 10% management fee is common for smaller properties, but the 60% leasing fee is above market in many areas—30-50% is more typical. The onboarding fee and lease renewal fee are also on the higher side. The repair markup, multiple quotes fee, and HVAC filter supply fee are worth questioning as well.

If your MIL is comfortable negotiating, she may be able to get some of these fees reduced or waived. Otherwise, it might be worth getting a few more PM quotes to compare. I’d recommend checking local investor groups or networking with other landlords in Memphis to get recommendations for more competitive options.

One company I’d personally recommend looking into is RiverTown Realty. They are my go-to partner for property management in Memphis! They have a good reputation in the area and may offer a more reasonable fee structure. Hope that helps!

Post: Forming an LLC - Memphis Investor Living Out-of-State

Jordan Ray
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  • Real Estate Agent
  • Memphis, TN
  • Posts 374
  • Votes 181
Quote from @Pradeep R.:

thank you for the quick response 

The other concern i had creating an holding llc like WY holding the  TN llc is the franchise amd exercise tax. Would i be exempt on the tax if the TN llc is not owned by me rather WY llc does?  


I'm sure you will be exempt. For the standard LLC holding LTRs in TN, the franchise & excise tax can be applied for exemption annually. I don't think that would be an issue but you can always call TN Department of Revenue and ask them that question for a precise answer.

Post: Forming an LLC - Memphis Investor Living Out-of-State

Jordan Ray
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  • Real Estate Agent
  • Memphis, TN
  • Posts 374
  • Votes 181
Quote from @Pradeep R.:

I am looking into llc formation as well. Does it make it fool proof having a regular llc or a series llc hold the properties for a TN llc

The other question is - i have heard from a few just have a TN llc is a not sufficient enough as there is no charging order protection in TN so the recommend asset properties structure is -> put the TN properties into a TN llc and the create a holding llc in WY to hold the TN created llc

Let me know if this is really needed??


Hey Pradeep, Both a standard TN LLC and a series LLC can serve to hold properties, but they each come with distinct considerations. A series LLC allows for segregation of assets within one entity, though its benefits depend on how well other states recognize and enforce the structure. In contrast, a traditional TN LLC may face challenges due to limited charging order protection, potentially making it less secure against creditor actions.

To address these concerns, some investors use a two-tier structure where a TN LLC—holding the property—is owned by a Wyoming holding LLC, benefiting from stronger asset protection laws. While a properly maintained TN LLC might be sufficient for those who diligently follow corporate formalities, the additional layer provided by the Wyoming entity can offer significant extra protection, albeit with increased complexity and cost. Ultimately, the best approach depends on your specific risk tolerance and investment situation, making professional legal advice a wise step in tailoring your strategy. I personally only use TN LLC because I am diligently maintaining all corporate formalities and staying up date with state LLC laws, this is my personal choice but again.. this all depends on your specific risk tolerance and investment situation. Hope this helps!

Post: My First Rental Property

Jordan Ray
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  • Real Estate Agent
  • Memphis, TN
  • Posts 374
  • Votes 181
Quote from @Anthony Michael Hamza:

Investment Info:

Single-family residence buy & hold investment.

Purchase price: $340,000
Cash invested: $110,000

This is my first rental property. Began renting the property out in June 2024 for $4,500 per month. With a 2.25% IR, total monthly expenses are at about $2,000 currently. No HOA, single family home. Put A little over $100,000 into renovations, mainly solidifying the property against hurricanes with impact windows & doors and a metal roof, but also some cosmetic stuff like floors, lighting and paint, etc. I am still new to a lot of the REI terminology and calculations, so I'm just using the amount spent on renovations as my "cash invested." I was a Realtor when I purchased it in 2019 and I used my commission towards the closing costs and I am a U.S. Army Veteran so I was fortunate not to have a lot of the typical expenses or a down payment. After living in the property form 2019 to 2024, my wife and I moved up to Maryland for a new job. We purchased our second property in August 2024, a townhouse this time, in Odenton, MD. With the interest rates and market prices, I am not sure this will be as great with returns. My goal is similar to the BRRRR method, and I want to hold on to rentals and create cashflow. My next property will hopefully be a multifamily. Hoping to learn a lot from this community.


Hi Anthony,

Great job on your first rental property! Your proactive approach—especially the hurricane-proof renovations—really positions you well in terms of asset protection and long-term value. It’s impressive that you managed to keep your monthly expenses relatively low while securing a strong rent of $4,500.

Your background as a Realtor and the benefits you leveraged as a veteran clearly gave you an edge. As you move into your townhouse in Odenton and eventually aim for multifamily properties, you might want to start refining your metrics (like cash-on-cash return and cap rate) to compare performance across different property types.

Looking forward to seeing how your portfolio evolves. Welcome to the community, and best of luck with your next ventures! Let me know if you ever decide to invest on Memphis TN at all!