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All Forum Posts by: Jonathan Yeh

Jonathan Yeh has started 11 posts and replied 90 times.

Post: New Build for Rental?

Jonathan YehPosted
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Originally posted by @Matt K.:

Depending on your connections and market.... Good labor is hard to come by and either expensive or you have an existing relationship.

Funding is also more difficult to secure for new construction even more so for investments vs primary.

Funding in terms of from the banks, or just in general? 

Post: New Build for Rental?

Jonathan YehPosted
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I'd like to see what your opinion is on this idea. If I am not in a hurry to get my first rental started, is buying a new build for rental a good idea?

Upsides:

1. It is a bit below market price, not by a lot, but at least 10-20k in my neighbourhood.

2. It will be brand new, which means the CapEx would be low relatively.

3. You design it the way you want your rental properties to be!

Downsides:

1. It takes 6-8 months to be built, which means almost a year without making any return.

2. There are relatively less data for you to evaluate the rental property.

Let's hear what you think!

Originally posted by @Nathan Hirsch:

This is an interesting thread.  I just sold my company and I want to take the earnings and invest in real estate.  I am 30 and have done the stock market for years.  I don't see myself flipping houses and I want to be more passive than that.  I know there are lots of REITs and other syndications.  I also am debating buying my own properties just to rent.  Lots of choices.

Let me know what you've decided and how that goes in the future! I just bought my 1st single family to get going. Hopefully to grow bigger soon!

Originally posted by @Blair Boan:

@Jonathan Yeh

Depends on what the sum is. Is it a million? If so I’d probably put 200k down on a $1M apartment type spot, cash flow somewhere in the 10k/month ballpark, set up my kids education fund, pay off my primary (because if it’s $1M then what’s 200k) and then probably sit on $300-$400k so when the bottom falls out again, I will be ready to scoop up properties.

If it’s $50k, then I may just pick up a junker, rehab it, refinance it and recycle my cash to another property.

Fun to think about though. But - the faster (in my opinion) you can get to a bigger multi family property, the faster you can build. Go exponentially as they say. Not laterally. Im 3 years in my own journey. Started with a SFR, then another. And another. And another. And another. And then a triplex. The triplex has one tax bill. One roof. One lawn. But throws off 3 rents. My goal going forward is to grow to more doors under one roof. It just seems more efficient.

Good luck!

Your idea is probably the closest to my own goals. Although I understand a good multi-fam provides a good cashflow, but I don't think I am experience enough to carry that on right away. I'm starting off with SFR like you (but reno them into duplexes), then hopefully going into multi-fam when I'm ready.

Post: Buying a new build in Calgary

Jonathan YehPosted
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Hey guys, I'm in the process of signing the contract of a new build in Calgary.

This is my first time doing this and I want to make sure I have everything covered.

In your experience, what do I need to make sure that are covered in the contract?

Thanks!

Originally posted by @Reese Thomas Jr:

@Jonathan Yeh

Option 3 is the closest I would do. From my research, the wealthiest investor know how to use leverage well, if you have $100K you could buy a primary home for you & your family but you would be looking to build that capital back up to invest in any rental property. It makes more sense to me to spread that $100k over multiple assets that would pay for your primary residence over time.

E.g. You find a home that cost $100K, you buy it cost. You still have taxes and your monthly expenses that you have to “work for” to pay, and if you so happen to loss that source of income you can still loss that “debt free” home for not paying taxes on it.

If you found a rental that cost $100K you can “invest” it, typically putting 20% down (which is $20k) that would allow your money to come back with friends plus you still have $80k to do it serval times and that would pay for your primary home. Cashflow 101 teaches you that once your “passive income” exceeds you “total expenses “ you don’t have to work for money 💵.

 Thanks for this advice man! Appreciate it.

Originally posted by @Randy Stivers:

The ultimate goal is to produce passive income with the least amount capital to invest in multiple investments. Formulate your plan on weather to invest in SFR and/or multiple units, some REITS to produce interim cash flow to fund upcoming opportunities. Make your cash flow work for you. Multi-units will provide greater economies of scale. Keep in mind the other goal is to minimize your tax payouts through a legal entity. Pay yourself a meager salary from operating your entity of investments, then take dividend distributions to reduce your taxable income. Your income from your salary will be taxed at a higher rate than the dividends. So get a very good Lawyer and Account working with your goals. Good luck!

 Wow, this is amazing. Thank you so much!

Originally posted by @Whitney Hutten:

@Jonathan Yeh Wow!  You sparked quite a convo.  1. Yes, PM me.  2. If you don't understand something (ie. syndications, etc), ask "how can i...".  Research... Ask questions!... Network :)

 Hahaha, I guess that's what happens when I didn't ask a very specific question..which is fine. I'd love to see as many inputs as I can :). Thanks for reaching out again!

Originally posted by @David Schmidt:

Lots of options. Pay down debt? Leverage and make more cash flow? Depends on your goals. I have worked with a lot of investors who have used a large lump sum to create a large cash flow position through multi family investing...then they use this new cash flow to pay down debts and live via passive income which allows you to accomplish both. Plus you are building equity that will increase over time and grow that nest egg vs just simply paying down debt. Happy to go over some scenarios if you want to discuss specifics! Good luck!

I am definitely interested in multi-families, but my problem is that I only have experience in single families..and I don't feel comfortable going into something that I have no experience with. Do you think multiple-single-families is a good way to go as well?

Originally posted by @Jeremy Porto:

@Jonathan Yeh  If you need resources to learn about syndication, there are some great books and pocasts:

podcasts:
Apartment Building Investing with Michael Blank

Old Capital Real Estate

Wheelbarrow Profits with Jake and Gino

Books:

Best Ever Apartment Syndication Book - Joe Fairless

Investing in Duplexes, Triplexes and Quads - Larry Loftis (not syndication, but small MF)

I'm always happy to chat with you too to help point you in the right direction.  Send me a message or email!

 Thanks man, you are amazing. I will look into it first! Although I don't think I want to put most of my investment in there yet, but who knows! I'll connect with you for sure!