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All Forum Posts by: Jonathan Yeh

Jonathan Yeh has started 11 posts and replied 90 times.

Quote from @Stevo Sun:
Quote from @Jonathan Yeh:

Hey guys, I'm an investor living in Airdrie right now, and I have been holding off to purchase a rental unit for the past year or so due to inflation and the forever-rising interest rate.

However, I plan to buy one this year to make "money work for me", but still..there are just so many things that I cannot overlook. I am hoping someone with much more experiences can give me some pointers! Here are my dilemmas:

1. Interest rate may not be rising any more, but it's not falling either - with a high interest rate right now, my ROI is only about 5%, which is much lower than what I was able to get from my other units from 2 years ago. Also, the 5% ROI is based on the "crazy" rent raise from 2022-2023. My struggles here are simply not knowing if the 5% ROI makes sense, and that future rent drop can also damage it easily.

2. Housing market is still at it's peak in Airdrie - a laned house that was valued at 400k 2 years ago is now selling close to 600k with the same specs (pricing from home builders). I understand that houses bought at a higher price today means nothing in 20-30 years, but still..it's a very hard pill to swallow.

3. Low inventory - there are just not enough houses for sales these days, and that's kind of forcing my hand to purchase houses that are not 100% rental ready. Which also pushes me back to purchasing pre-construction houses. The down side I found with pre-constructions is that the overall cash required is much higher than purchasing from otherwise. Garage, fences, laundry units...etc adds up to almost 35k cash from my previous units.

What do you think? Should I just hold cash for another while to see what's going to happen? Hoping for a semi-crash to take advantage of it? Invest in stocks or other options while waiting for RE to recover from the "bubble"?

Thanks in advance, I know it's not an easy answer for most! Much, much appreciated!

I'm in Calgary and the last property I bought was Feb 2022 which was peak pricing and before the rates went up a lot. I went 20k over asking and no conditions. So far thats the best investment have made in real estate. 

That said I have not made any new purchase since. I've been looking quite a bit in Calgary and the numbers just does not pencil out for me personally. I'm not betting on rent increases we have seen in the last year or so. With a lot of economic uncertainty and Alberta been a oil boom and bust economy I think the risk is moderate rents will flatten. 

There's a lot of Ontario and BC money coming to Alberta and over bidding everything. I haven't seen any deal that will provide any decent cap rate right now on the small residential side (four-plex and blew). 

It really depends on your investing thesis. Do you think Calgary/Edmonton will turn into the next Toronto/Vancouver? Do you think a recession will crash the oil price and Alberta economy? Do you think the amount of people coming to Alberta will drive up demand and keep on driving rent and home prices? Do you think BoC is down raising rates and inflation will be under control in the near term? 

I have no clue what the answers to those questions are and I'm staying on the look out for deals while getting 5% on my down payment amount. 🤣

Good luck house hunting! 


 I have no answers to those questions either, and random major events are just popping out left and right these days.

I'm happy with my purchases so far so I guess I'm not really in a rush for anything..sideline it is since cash is still king 😂.

Quote from @Chris Davidson:

1. interest rate is cost of capital it effects your deal. A deal can make sense with a 20% rate if the terms are right. Determine what you need out of a deal and make sure you can check as many boxes as you can.

2. Are you a long term investor? Swallow the pill, all that matters to you is the hold period. If you are holding 5 years what do you think the prices will be or if you are holding 15 or 30 years use that.

3. Goes back to your deal all that matters is what you are buying.

Do what makes sense to you. With inflation the longer you hold the more of a drop you need to cover the loss you have in your cash. The equity and debt market can make sense especially in times of high rates. I personally prefer to invest in something I can control so I will keep investing in RE mainly.


 Thank you for this! 

Hey guys, I'm an investor living in Airdrie right now, and I have been holding off to purchase a rental unit for the past year or so due to inflation and the forever-rising interest rate.

However, I plan to buy one this year to make "money work for me", but still..there are just so many things that I cannot overlook. I am hoping someone with much more experiences can give me some pointers! Here are my dilemmas:

1. Interest rate may not be rising any more, but it's not falling either - with a high interest rate right now, my ROI is only about 5%, which is much lower than what I was able to get from my other units from 2 years ago. Also, the 5% ROI is based on the "crazy" rent raise from 2022-2023. My struggles here are simply not knowing if the 5% ROI makes sense, and that future rent drop can also damage it easily.

2. Housing market is still at it's peak in Airdrie - a laned house that was valued at 400k 2 years ago is now selling close to 600k with the same specs (pricing from home builders). I understand that houses bought at a higher price today means nothing in 20-30 years, but still..it's a very hard pill to swallow.

3. Low inventory - there are just not enough houses for sales these days, and that's kind of forcing my hand to purchase houses that are not 100% rental ready. Which also pushes me back to purchasing pre-construction houses. The down side I found with pre-constructions is that the overall cash required is much higher than purchasing from otherwise. Garage, fences, laundry units...etc adds up to almost 35k cash from my previous units.

What do you think? Should I just hold cash for another while to see what's going to happen? Hoping for a semi-crash to take advantage of it? Invest in stocks or other options while waiting for RE to recover from the "bubble"?

Thanks in advance, I know it's not an easy answer for most! Much, much appreciated!

Originally posted by @Anthony Therrien-Bernard:
Originally posted by @Jonathan Yeh:

Nice! I am starting to do that in Calgary as well (specifically Airdrie for now)!

Airdrie has higher cash flow but appreciation won't be as good as Calgary for sure...hoping to diversify the areas one day as well!



What kind of properties do you have in Airdrie? I'm surprised to hear cash flow is better?

SFH, but like you renting, making it a duplex with a basement. The only reason why cash flow is better is because the property is generally cheaper and the rent is about the same.

I mean, it also depends on where you are buying..Calgary is quite volatile with different areas as well.

where about are you?

Nice! I am starting to do that in Calgary as well (specifically Airdrie for now)!

Airdrie has higher cash flow but appreciation won't be as good as Calgary for sure...hoping to diversify the areas one day as well!

Originally posted by @Account Closed:

@Jonathan Yeh

If you want to learn multifamily in Canada, attend his workshop. You won’t regret it. I think he does one or maybe two per year usually. Not sure when the next one is. They run around $3k I think but there is ZERO upsell . Hands on including touring a small multi building in person and inspecting it the way it should be

 That sounds good, have you invested with them before?

Originally posted by @Account Closed:

Pierre Paul Turgeon is the absolute authority on this in Canada. I’ve heard him speak many times and have his multi family resource on the shelf here. Absolutely worth it, specially the weekend course. He’s a former underwriter for cmhc, and also just a darn nice guy.

 Are you suggesting to attend one of his meetings? Thanks for the recommendation!


Originally posted by @Hai Loc:
Originally posted by @Jonathan Yeh:
Originally posted by @Hai Loc:
Originally posted by @Jonathan Yeh:
Originally posted by @Hai Loc:

Crowd funding is the closing thing in Canada

Can you elaborate on this please? Not 100% sure if I understand what you said here.

Thanks!

Raising money via crowd funding has been gaining momentum in Canada.. as is Syndication..  you just need to abide by SEC rules on determining accredited investors.. 

As a sponsor you need to get financing in place based on your credentials not the investors.. 

It would be a good idea for you to partner with a sponsor first to get your feet wet. Unless you have a network of investors that trust you

Nope I've never done anything like this before, nor am I an accredited investor.....

More things to look into, thanks for the info!

It's not for everybody..

However it's one of the best ways to leverage and one of the highest cash on cash strategies..

That's what I want tho; if you don't mind me poking into your brain a bit more, what should I watch out for when I reach out to syndicators?

Originally posted by @Hai Loc:
Originally posted by @Jonathan Yeh:
Originally posted by @Hai Loc:

Crowd funding is the closing thing in Canada

Can you elaborate on this please? Not 100% sure if I understand what you said here.

Thanks!

Raising money via crowd funding has been gaining momentum in Canada.. as is Syndication..  you just need to abide by SEC rules on determining accredited investors.. 

As a sponsor you need to get financing in place based on your credentials not the investors.. 

It would be a good idea for you to partner with a sponsor first to get your feet wet. Unless you have a network of investors that trust you

Nope I've never done anything like this before, nor am I an accredited investor.....

More things to look into, thanks for the info!

Originally posted by @Jon Marois:

You need to look up ShaneMelanson.com his book “Club Syndication” is great content for an individual such as yourself.

He is from Calgary and has Done many syndication deals in Canada and USA.

 Thanks for the recommendation!