All Forum Posts by: Jonathan Cooper

yeah it is the best totally! 1 poster lmao, how much he paid you?

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He has had more than 10 called due. Banks are wise now. They are even discussing this at banking and mortgage conferences. Pace is finished. Prison awaits!!! 

Why are you mentioning prison? Subto is NOT illegal. It is on the HUD statement on line 503. There is no 'crime' committed. The banks MAY call the loan due but it is not illegal to buy a property sub to the existing mortgage.

You are correct, Subto IS legal, when done legally.
Withdrawing money from the bank IS legal too, when done legally.

Are you aware that when done improperly, Subto can lead to charges of Consumer Protection ACT violations, artifices, deception by omission, equity skimming, bank fraud, mortgage fraud, tax evasion and so on. Just say "No, I didn't know that". Well, yes it can.
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Now, "charges" doesn't necessarily mean anyone is guilty, but why put yourself in that position? Court ties you up for a year to a year and half with no guarantee of the outcome. (and is no fun.)

I’m here to protect people from making very bad mistakes, as I teach Subto “safely and legally”. It’s up to individuals though, to get serious and learn things properly.

Be safe, know the law, stay legal. There is zero talk of that at the Subto "community" (Bad news interferes with increasing the sales, cuts into the profit margin I suppose).

 So you assume that Pace teaches how to buy a property subto without providing a legal contract with needed addendums? 

If you were in the community, you’d know how ludicrous this sounds. Pace spends tens of thousands of dollars keeping contracts updated for all of us. 
You shouldn’t make assumptions on how the mentorship works. 

We know how it works. We know that like Jeffrey Epstein has defenders and enablers so does Pace Morby. 

 lol, Nate could not have said it better, the thing is that Pace is just paying mostly for random accounts to create positive reviews

Welcome Cady, you seem like a well rounded person in real estate and business, pretty uncommon for a realtor.

This guy is smelling scam from a mile away, he immediately tries to sell you something, I messaged him and looks like one of his people who manages his messages pressured me to get on a call for a mentorship which will show me how to make 500k-1M per year through wholesaling. 

 NJ is close and its not bad. Florida, Texas, Ohio, Michigan are some good markets

 good approach, you definitely seem like you know the market very well. I would still personally avoid investing there even though the rents are high, I lived there for 2 yrs. NJ which is close seems a better option to me. 

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hey Pamela, congrats on your little one! I would not invest in NY, very difficult market. If you want to invest out of state then LTR is way more easier to manage remotely!

 thats crazy, i knew something was off with it when i jumped on a call with one of his sales guy to talk to me about his program, very high pressure and just did not feel right to me.

 well, there are gurus and wannabes that's for sure, but if everyone did some research they could figure that out and get the right people to guide them. Investing in yourself is a key. 

But on this specific guy, I jumped on a call to explore the program and it was a high pressure sales call, it did not feel organic, not trustworthy and certainly did not feel the right fit.

Why would someone spend 10k on a so niched-down space of real estate when they can get someone for the same amount to teach him/her everything?