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All Forum Posts by: John Westbrook

John Westbrook has started 4 posts and replied 39 times.

Post: Chicago Verifying Legal Units

John WestbrookPosted
  • Realtor
  • Chicago, IL
  • Posts 45
  • Votes 56

Hey @Luke Stone!  Here is how to get dwelling unit info right from the horses mouth, in the fastest way, at no cost to you...

Email "D W M F O I A @ c i t y o f c h i c a g o . o r g" this exact statement.  You will get the water records from the city stating how many dwelling units were present when they installed/updated the water service anywhere from the 20's to an updated one in the 80's.  This has been a really great tool we've used before purchasing property.  Feel free to ask any followup questions.

Cheers! 

-JW

Post: I'm Looking for Investor Friendly attorney in the Chicago area

John WestbrookPosted
  • Realtor
  • Chicago, IL
  • Posts 45
  • Votes 56

Hi @Mark Dillard, Jim Erwin is the best.  He has helped me and my team on countless multifamily deals in Chicago.  He really knows his stuff.  

Erwin & Associates LLC

4043 N Ravenswood Ave # 208, Chicago, IL 60613

@Tom Shallcross.  This is next level info, thank you very much.

Post: Chicago's ADU...Insanely powerful

John WestbrookPosted
  • Realtor
  • Chicago, IL
  • Posts 45
  • Votes 56

@Brian Ploszay, thanks for you input.  I disagree with you on garden apartments.  So long as you build it correctly(weeping system into a drain tile into a sump) you should have zero water no matter how much it rains.  While it is expensive to do, you probably will be digging down to the footing anyways to increase ceiling height and running a new underground sewer while you're at it. 

I agree fully with the storefronts, and will be surprised if that isn't incorporated in the ordinance.  Coach houses will be super interesting to watch as everyone will have to figure how to run the water service and sewer through the back yard.  

@Maria Bocanegra. I sure hope your sources are correct!  

Post: Chicago's ADU...Insanely powerful

John WestbrookPosted
  • Realtor
  • Chicago, IL
  • Posts 45
  • Votes 56

Howdy Chicagoans! 

I have been quite excited about the possibility of this ordinance being passed and in effect 8.1.20 and have been thinking about the best way to implement a strategy. For those who are just hearing about this, on May 20th the long anticipated ADU ordinance was introduced to Chicago's City Council. I really like the way it was written as I think it will be able to remedy some pent up demand for affordable housing, legalize in-law units and coach houses that have been there for a long long time, and add conversions units and new coach houses!! I certainly recommend reading the details, but here is a few snapshots of what we can expect-

"3. How many ADUs could be built on a property?

Property owners in “R” zones can choose to add either one or more conversion units or a coach house. Coach houses would not be able to be built on any lot that has a conversion unit.

If adding conversion units

Owners of single-family houses that are 20 years or older would be able to build one “conversion unit”. All other residential buildings that are 20 years or older would be able to add 33 percent of the number of existing units, and rounding up or down.

  • 2-flats: 2x0.33 = 0.66 rounding up to 1 unit
  • 3-flats: 3x0.33 = 0.99 rounding up to 1 unit
  • 4-flats: 4x0.33 = 1.32 rounding down to 1 unit
  • 5-flats: 5x0.33 = 1.65 rounding up to 2 units
  • 6-flats: 6x0.33 = 1.98 rounding up to 2 units
  • And so on.

If adding a coach house

All properties that are either vacant or have a single-family house, 2-flat, 3-flat, or 4-flat would be able to add one coach house as long as there is no conversion unit on the lot."

If you have an Rzoned lot(majority of lots in the city) you would be able to, by right, add 1 unit.  My thought is that if you have an open basement, it would be the most cost effective way to utilize the new ordinance.  A coach house could be 700-1400sq feet as the footprint of the CH has to be 700sq ft, but maybe some builder creates an affordable CH design for the inevitable demand coming.

This should increase property values of current owners even if they haven't utilize the conversion or CH because a future owner could monetize that.  

Where I'm really excited is the idea of adding 33% more units in a big building with an open basement. Lets say you already own a 45 unit courtyard building with an open basement that used to house the boiler, W/D, and electric panels but you have already HVAC'd each apartment, added in-unit W/D , and moved electric panels to the units. By right you would be able to convert that empty ground floor space to 15 apartments!! Half of these apartment will need to be affordable ($1,069.50/mo) for the next 30 years and half could be market rent apartments. Assuming 100k/door to create these 2bd/1ba units, you could hit the 1% rule on the affordable units and close to 2% on the market rate apartments. You could refi the building after all of the new conversion apartments are rented and recapture 100% of the capital needed to create these new apartments. You just took your 45 unit building and converted it to a 60 unit building with no money out of pocket, created 1.5m of equity(assuming $200k/door ARV), and cash fow . That is the very definition of "highest and best use" and will make a lot of folks $$ while also contributing 8 affordable units to the city of Chicago.


I would love to hear others thoughts, and how they would take action if passed!

-JW
https://www.chicagocityscape.com/blog/chicago-s-adu-ordinance-was-introduced-see-what-you-could-build-583f436600?utm_content=bufferc493e&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter.com&utm_campaign=buffer 

Post: Rehabbing 1900s 2 or 3 Flat in Chicago

John WestbrookPosted
  • Realtor
  • Chicago, IL
  • Posts 45
  • Votes 56

Hey @Andrew Fink!  In 90% of Chicago neighborhoods the housing stock for a 2/3/4flat is from 1890-1920s.  These are fantastic buildings that have stood the test of time and in many cases are much better built than newer masonry construction.  Each building has been through a different stage of rehab before it hits the market.  If you are buying something that needs a gut-rehab, expect $100,000/door to do that.  Don't let that number scare you if your initial cost basis is good.  

The real gems that everyone looks for is something that was gut-rehabbed 20 or so years ago and therefore has newer plumbing, electric, hvac, ductwork has been run.  The play there is refinishing the floors, new kitchens, baths, mechanicals(hvac, water heater), windows and paint and you have a product that functions that same as a gut-rehab for less capital invested.  I've done both deals, and both have their advantages and disadvantages.

I PREFER early 1900's buildings, they are beautiful and will never be built like that again.

Feel free to reach out, I'd love to connect!

-JW

Post: BRRRR General Rules of Thumbs

John WestbrookPosted
  • Realtor
  • Chicago, IL
  • Posts 45
  • Votes 56

Hi @Kevin Mahoney! I love the topic of BRRRR and have found that it is best to look at it is like a chess game and work backwards.

I look at BRRRR it as three equally important parts that each need to be understood to succeed.

33%-Buying the right property and understanding rehab costs/timelines

33%-Understanding your rental market and successfully renting/managing the asset after rehab is complete.(Bonus-you can show the bank why you are a great operator)

33%-Speaking the language of a banker, and understanding what they are willing to lend and what cap rate the neighborhood is usually valued at

Step one- Identify if you will be buying a 2-4unit or a 5+unit building, the financing varies significantly between the two. Commercial lenders will typically lend you 70-75% as-is value(at acquisition) and 70-75% of construction costs for a value-add play.  Not all commercial lenders offer the ability to cash-out refi at 100% of the project cost, but that is what you want to look for.  A home-run deal is when you can create 30% of equity in the building on the 1st lease up after renovations and recapture all of your hard and soft costs to repay the capital you have borrowed!  

For residential loans, everything is structured a bit differently. You can still cash-out refi, and it was easier to do so the last few years, but recently lenders in Chicago have been telling me their requirements became much more stringent since COVID-19. Cash-out refis for residential aren't much different from a commercial mortgage now(70-75% LTV), and most banks now want to see 6months of PITI reserves!!

A residential loan is slightly different as the bank looks more at you(your income, credit, debt/income ratio) then the deal itself, whereas a commercial loan they look at a deal dynamics first and want to see that you are a capable operator.  Being a young investor, I have found that commercials loans are far more attainable for where I am at in life(easier to get a construction loan too!!).

Step 2- Understand what the property will rent for when the value-add is completed and then how the banks will value it (NOI*cap rate of area=ARV).

Step 3- Understand rehab costs and always over-estimate cost and over estimate time to complete.  Only one project has been under budget and on time for me.  The more meat on the bone, the bigger rehab, more variables that inevitably change.

Step 4- Now that you understand what your bank will lend, rehab costs, and after repair rents...you know what you can pay for that asset to create 30% equity and therefore get all of your capital out at completion!

Step 5- Hold onto your new asset that cashflows every month, has brand new renovations, and cost you(ideally!!) no $ of your own. 

My typical BRRRR investment takes 12-18 months from acquisition to cash-out refinance. Check out my "investments" section on my profile, you can see a summary of my buy/hold BRRRR projects in Chicago.

It may feel overwhelming at first, and that's because it's a multifaceted move in multifamily real estate.  You will learn a dozen new tricks after completing just one.  You will get good at it, and then want to take down another one.  It feels so cool to recapture 100% of the cost in just a year!  Cheers, you're well on your way!

-JW

Post: First Time Chicago Investor

John WestbrookPosted
  • Realtor
  • Chicago, IL
  • Posts 45
  • Votes 56

Hey @Jordan Rosenberg!  I live/invest/work in the areas surrounding the blue line and am currently house-hacking a 3unit in East Humboldt.  Feel free to message me and check out my "investments" section of my profile, would love to connect!

-JW

Post: Networking: Chicago Area

John WestbrookPosted
  • Realtor
  • Chicago, IL
  • Posts 45
  • Votes 56

Hi @Jack Jenkins!  I always love meeting new folks interested in multifamily here in Chicago.  I'm an investor and agent based in the city focusing on Logan Square, East Humboldt and UK Village.  Lots of cool and intelligent people to learn from, let's connect.

-JW

Hi @Zulf H.

 It is very important that we all understand that this situation WILL affect someone around you, whether it be a family member or a tenant, and to be as helpful and kind as possible. Karma is real. Here is the letter I sent out to my tenants in Chicago last week, feel free to use any bits that strike a cord with you---

"Hi everyone,
I wanted to touch base with each and every one of you, and encourage an open line of communication through these unprecedented times. First and foremost, I hope everyone is staying sane and healthy, we may be quarantined for some time but this could be an amazing space to reset, reflect and recharge from the fast paced city life that we have become accustomed to.
I hope your employer or clients are understanding and able to keep you employed and in business. Most may be ok through these troubled times, but some may not be as fortunate. We are normal people too and want to work with you as best as we can to soften any potential hardships. Rent is still due. We still have to pay our mortgage, taxes, insurance, and utilities to maintain the building and to keep your home feeling like home. We aren't a large multinational corporation with massive reserves and big cushions to fall back on, but we are human beings that have empathy for a situation that no one alive has ever been through.
We are keeping our eyes on programs that the government is designing to help individuals, especially tenants, to get through these hardships. This is a rapidly changing time, so we are going to stay up to date on what our government plans to do, and will make sure to keep you updated with any programs that become available. At this time, small maintenance requests will be put on hold, but of course if anything big needs to be attended to our maintenance is still available. I am always available to connect and talk through your individual situation, as each person may be living through different experience. You can call or text me anytime on my cell, I'm here as a resource and to help you get through anything at all. This will be a moment of time that will be written about for decades, and it is important to remember that we are all in this together. We as humans can and will evolve to adapt to our new realities and I'm confident that we will get out on the other end stronger and greater than ever before.

All my best,

John Westbrook"

Hope this helps, cheers!

-JW