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All Forum Posts by: Peter Jin

Peter Jin has started 6 posts and replied 35 times.

Post: What percentage of Cash on cash do you think is good

Peter JinPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Philadelphia, PA
  • Posts 39
  • Votes 33
Quote from @Zachary Ware:

I think it depends on your strategy. If this is a buy-and-hold, I would consider anything over 10% to be good. If this is more active and a fix/flip, I would look for over 20%. Also, compare it to other returns you can get in the market. How passive and how safe these other options are, are also important factors to take into consideration.


 Thanks.

Post: What percentage of Cash on cash do you think is good

Peter JinPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Philadelphia, PA
  • Posts 39
  • Votes 33
Thanks. I appreciate your comments. I think it is a OK deal, with current 11% Cash-on Cash return. However the rent is low and once I increase the rent to market value, it will be around 18% Cash on Cash return. 

Quote from @Gregory Schwartz:

My 2 cents. 

  • Cash flow is the safety net that shields your investment from the necessity of a rushed sale, while appreciation leads to wealth accumulation. As rental rates progressively outpace expenses over time, the growth in cash flow can provide a reliable income stream.

In line with my investment approach, I focus on these three key metrics when conducting property analyses:

  1. Initial Equity at the End of Year One: This equity can result from either a down payment or improvements made during a rehab phase. A minimum of 20% equity is my benchmark, ensuring I dont find myself upsupside down on my investment.
  2. Positive Cash Flow by the Conclusion of Year One: I aim for a positive cash flow figure at the end of the first year. As mentioned this means the property can support itself and wont put me in a situation where I can cover debt, operating expenses or capital expenses.
  3. Annualized Return if Sold at the Five-Year Mark: This metric offers a comprehensive view of investment performance, blending both cash flow and equity. If I NEED to sell within five years, this calculation provides insight into the real-world return that incorporates these vital aspects of the investment.

I want a balance between steady cash flow and long-term appreciation potential. 


Post: What percentage of Cash on cash do you think is good

Peter JinPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Philadelphia, PA
  • Posts 39
  • Votes 33

@Ruchit Patel

Thanks for your comments. I agree that peace of mind is more important than pure cash on cash return

Post: What percentage of Cash on cash do you think is good

Peter JinPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Philadelphia, PA
  • Posts 39
  • Votes 33

@Kenneth Garrett

Thanks for your reply. I have a package deal that I am underwriting, and currently it is 11% Cash on cash return. I am not sure if this is a good deal to chase. Thanks.

Post: What percentage of Cash on cash do you think is good

Peter JinPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Philadelphia, PA
  • Posts 39
  • Votes 33

Hi,

I am just curious about your options. When underwriting a deal, what percentage of Cash on cash return do you think is a good deal?

5-10%, 10-15%, 15-20%, more than 20%.

Thanks.

Post: 18 to 60 Units During the First 9 Months of the COVID-19 Pandemic

Peter JinPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Philadelphia, PA
  • Posts 39
  • Votes 33

Just find the post. Very inspiration. Good work!  

Post: Appraisal came very low during refinancing

Peter JinPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Philadelphia, PA
  • Posts 39
  • Votes 33

@Buyan Thyagarajan

There is a possibility that your first appraisal is off. I know the norristown market. 250k for a property with 4bed and 1 bath will be in the high end.

Now the bank is more conservative, same as appraisal.

I am sorry for the situation, but I think it will be very difficult to fight the appraisal report.

Post: Has anyone used Seabury Investments LLC for funding?

Peter JinPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Philadelphia, PA
  • Posts 39
  • Votes 33

glad I found this thread at BP. I was attracted by them in their FB post. After a few email conversations, my gut feeling is No to move forward. When I google this company name, This thread pop-up. Thanks. BP

Post: Looking for Bridge loan as downapayment

Peter JinPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Philadelphia, PA
  • Posts 39
  • Votes 33

Hi,

I have a package deal that sell for 2.6m, I have a lender that can give me 75% loan. I am looking for a bridge loan as downapayment and closing costs to close the deal.

Do you have recommendations? Thanks.

Post: Is it time to jump ship?

Peter JinPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Philadelphia, PA
  • Posts 39
  • Votes 33

@Ravi Chhabra sorry to hear that. That neighborhood is a tough area. It will be very difficult for an out of state investor to manage through PM.

If I were you, I would sell it and invest in other areas.