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All Forum Posts by: Jim Pellerin

Jim Pellerin has started 8 posts and replied 870 times.

Post: recommendations on reliable wholesale companies

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These larger wholesaling companies tend to over estimate the ARV and underestimate the rehab costs. They can do this because they have a lot of buyers who may just be looking for a buy and hold and are ok with not making a big profit at acquisition.

Post: recommendations on reliable wholesale companies

Jim PellerinPosted
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Just wondering what your objective is. Are you looking for properties to fix and flip? And looking for wholesalers to provide you with these?

Post: I want to seller finance a deal but need some guidance.

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It depends how motivated the seller is and what existing mortgage is on the property. 

1. If it is free and clear, I have done deals with 100% seller financing and 0% interest with a baloon payment in 5 years. No interest, no payments. But the seller was very motivated. Hated being a landlord. I always start with 0% interest and negotiate from there. Keep in mind the banks will always want you to have some skin in the game so seller financing may not remove the requirement for you to provide a down payment. 

2. I have also done seller financing after the deal, where the seller has provided my funds after the deal has closed and I put a second mortgage on the property. 

3. I have also done subject-to's where the seller stays on the mortgage and title is transferred to you.

4. I did a lot of sandwich lease optons where the seller lease options the property to you and you lease option the property to the tenant to another tenant.   

Post: Build or Buy Off-Market Marketing List?

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Quote from @Dan Cioaca:

@Jim Pellerin

Focused on MFR for long-term buy and hold. Based on my personal experience, I'm planning to start with a few outreach channels and then expand and experiment over time. I'll initially handle inbound calls personally until I can iron out the script sufficiently to hand it off to a call center or dedicated salesperson on my team.

What's your underlying question? Does the effectiveness of direct marketing vary wildly based on property type? And why does exit strategy matter when considering the cost effectiveness of outbound marketing for purchases?


Yes, the type of property and exit strategy will greatly influence the type of outreach you do and the cost, For example, Costar, Reonomy and Yardimatrix are for larger commercial deals. Propstream, batchleads, flipster are more for SFH and smaller MFUs. All of them have build in outreach capabilitiies such as direct mail, sms, email. And the life-time value of a deal and your conversion rate will determine how much you are willing to spend. For example, if you are doing a buy and hold, your life-time value is a lot higher than if you are doing a wholesale or fix and flip. In your case, I would think you can spend a bit more becasue you are focusing on MFUs.

Post: 5 Reasons You'll Love Investing Passively In Real Estate Syndicat

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Or you could do your own syndications as another option. Managing capital is a lot easier than SFHs and MFUs.

Post: New to Wholesaling and Flipping

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Quote from @Heath Watson:

Im located South of St Louis. Ive never done anything like this but decided to do some investigating on a home in my area that has been empty. The owner lives out of state and is ready to sell. Similar homes comp for about 160 completely fixed up. Im hoping to get under contract for 55k and possibly either just wholesale the property or maybe find a partner to flip it with. Just looking for some information since im trying to get my foot in the door of real estate and kind of new to some of this. The home needs updated from roof to hvac but it a nice split level with garage on a corner lot. 

Thanks, Heath

 @Heath Watson In my opinion, wholesaling is the best way to get started in real estate if you are looking for short-term income. Or you can partner with someone to do a flip. So I like both options for you. Kepp doing it for a year or so or until you make about $100K then use your profits to buy a loing-term wealtrh building asset.

Post: HONEST opinion on 20 y/o Real Estate job šŸ«£šŸ˜¬

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Quote from @Ethan Hanes:
Quote from @Brian Badolato:

Hey everyone Iā€™ll try to make it short. Iā€™m 20 y/o and my ultimate goal was to primarily learn about real estate. I saw this job app on Indeed ā€œReal Estate Acquisitionsā€ I applied and got hired. 1 week in I realized itā€™s a small asset management group. 2 wealthy brothers tryna grow their port with 80 units in town and a property manager. Brother A, is the real estate head Acquisitions he meets w sellers lowballs them and also does prop management. Brother B,is the most experienced heā€™s CEO heā€™s but now just the numbers guy and talks w mortgage brokers, lenders and brokers etcā€¦

First months was fukin great it was like a newbies dream to enter the real estate. Brother A, took me around properties showed me in person red flags in properties, the construction problems etc... I even saw real estate transactions live in person when he was speaking to sellers directly. I also met this multimillionaire who owns 6 apartments when we wholesaled a this one deal to him. So the experience was awesome.

However once THAT first month was overā€¦ the reality set in. I soon realized this job position was to be on the phone for 6-8 hrs a day straight up cold calling. Now Iā€™m two months in I havenā€™t had my first deal yet this is all commission base. Iā€™m still goingā€¦..

To reclarify, The job in a nut shell is to cold call (6-8hrs) get properties under a STRICT ball park range 50-90k a unit in California, then get out to the property and put it under contract. Rinse and repeat cold call again etcā€¦

Both Brothers are encouraging me to keep continuing and tell me these are the ā€œwallsā€ youā€™ll face. Brother A has been getting deals once a month, that first month I used recycled leads. Now Iā€™m they put me in a market where 50-90k a unit is almost impossible. (I cold called realtors and brokers they said 200-300k in this new market Iā€™m in) and the Brothers rebuttal ā€œthey always say thatā€

This job pay is. Close a 2 units $2,500, close 6 unit and below $5,000. Close 6 units and above $7,500.

Iā€™m having second thoughts about this job and found that I should value my time than cold calling 6-8hrsā€¦ It kinda sucks rn, I love real estate and wealth generation but my plan now is to get one property learn the process of acquiring then quit. Iā€™ve been looking into selling life insurance I heard that could be good and has a wayyy better work life balance, I also have a business that helps people and I think life insurance could possibly fit me more than lowballing and offending sellers idk lmkā€¦.

The only reason why Iā€™m staying is really gain the experience of that 1st real estate transaction w a seller in person. Then leaveā€¦

Let me know what I should do or what you guys would došŸ™‚šŸ™

BRIAN! I am in the exact same boat as you. I work at a commercial real estate brokerage. I cold call 6 hours a day. Iā€™m 8 months in, and still no sale (although our average sale price is $2.5 million). In my humble opinion, you should get out of that job. Finding $50-90k units is impossible in California. I say that from experience. The fact that you arenā€™t able to find a deal and they keep pushing towards 50-90k is not good. Maybe stress your worries to them. This might help! Be transparent with them.

@Ethan Hanes @Brian Badolato 9 months cold-calling and no deals, then something is wrong. The product is bad? The script is bad? The leads are bad? And Brian, you said the manager is doing a deal a month? So reach out to him for coaching. 

Post: Where do we go from here - advice on how to scale our business

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Quote from @Munim Jalil:

Hi All,

Looking for some advice from the BP community!

Background on our journey -  It's been 5yrs since we started our real estate journey in NYC. We purchased our first multi property at the end of Dec-17 and added a new property every year and half. We had some major set backs along the journey - one resulting in owning a vacant building for one year. We have bounced back since. 

Portfolio key stats - We currently run a 9% Cap Rate in NYC with a FCF of $177K on an Unlevered basis-forecast*. We will look to maximize our portfolio (increase rent, property development, etc.) over the next year and half to a reach a 13% Cap Rate with a FCF of $264K+. We currently own 10 rental units split across 4-properties. Our portfolio value will come in shy of $4M (based on our valuation and market comparables) with a debt to equity ratio of 30%:70%. 

As we enter a high interest environment with an impending recession, how do we maximize our FCF and equity value on our portfolio? We are interested in purchasing larger multi-family buildings (6+ units) / mixed-use (commercial + residential building) / Airbnb type of acquisition. We are also exploring investing in other states where our dollar will go much further. 

Any advice/tips are greatly appreciated!

@Munim Jalil
So let me understand. You have $2.8M in equity in duplexes (guess)? I would sell everything and go and buy a $10M+ apartment building. Or do your own syndication and raise a bunch more caoital and buy something larger. That's how you need to scale. 

Post: I need help with ARV

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Quote from @Celestino Moreno:

I found a motivated seller wanting to sell their house at 1.1 M but the ARV with the houses around the area comes out to $950,640 my question is why the house estimated value says $110,630 when the houses around it have sold for so much with the similar sq. Does this mean I have to give an offer in reference too the 100k value or the 950k ?

First off, he doesn't sound that motivated if he is asking $1.1m and the ARV you calculated is $950K. I have no idea what this $110k value is. Your offer is relative to the ARV. 

Post: New to REI - SFH vs.MFH

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Quote from @Eric Brewer:

Hi All! I'm Eric and I'm looking to start my journey in REI. I've done a lot of research and plan to untilize a HELOC on my own home for a down payment and finance the rest. We have some reserves as well in case things come up but that is our plan to start. I'm torn as I've done a ton of research and I'm wondering what the best first rental purchase would be (single family vs. multifamily/duplex )? Was initially thinking MF but now am considering SF. This wouldn't be a house hack with me living there, it would only be for renting it out. Just Looking to get your opinions to gauge which direction I should head. Thanks in advance!

@Eric Brewer Ideally a MFU will cash flow better, but my question is what are you goals? Are you OK waiting for your investments to appreciate over time and make you money later?