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All Forum Posts by: Jennifer Fernéz

Jennifer Fernéz has started 57 posts and replied 147 times.

Post: Looking for a lender to help aquire a property up for auction

Jennifer FernézPosted
  • Investor
  • Reading, PA
  • Posts 162
  • Votes 47

Hey all!  I am interested in potentially bidding on a property going up for auction in Lititz, PA, and I’m looking for a lender.  It is a 2-unit property with starting bids at $250K.    

ARV is $500-$600K.

Monthly income:  $3500

Assuming we acquire at $300K and put $30K into renovations (I'm a contractor):

NOI $27,372

CoC ROI is 20.12%.

Pro Forma Cap 5.47%

Purchase Cap 9.12%

Post: Let's talk strategy

Jennifer FernézPosted
  • Investor
  • Reading, PA
  • Posts 162
  • Votes 47
Quote from @Kerry Noble Jr:

Id work the DSCR route and Use the stacking method......

1>2>4>8>16>32>64

but but make each one of those Duplexes and not actual doors......1 duplex, 2 duplexes, 4 Duplexes, 8 Duplexes. Do you see the exponential growth there? 


 Cool, thanks.   The most helpful reply yet

Post: Let's talk strategy

Jennifer FernézPosted
  • Investor
  • Reading, PA
  • Posts 162
  • Votes 47
Quote from @Bruce Woodruff:

So can I assume you are wishing to replace your $5k mo income with income from property(s) ?

Of course it depends where in the USA you choose to start, but let's guess using averages....

With $50k to start with (as a 20% down payment on a rental property) you can purchase a house up to about $250k, right? Assume $1500 - $2000 mo for rental income and assume PITI at $1800 with 6% interest, you are already at break-even. And that doesn't include other expenses.

So the traditional SFH route may work eventually including appreciation and other factors, but probably not in 10 years because you need to refi and purchase other houses to make this angle work.

Buying a 2/1 somewhere and living on one side is another option, as is renting both sides, but you'd have to identify an area where you can afford a duplex. Or you could house-hack. I still don't see 10 years here.

Flipping is an option as well, but do you have any skills that would help? Paying a Contr to do everything sucks up a lot of $$...

Personally I would buy the worst house in a run-down area of a nice city that is getting ready to gentrify. Fix it up, rent for a year or two until it pops, than sell and take profits to buy a couple of the same type deals. Repeat again.

This might get you there in 10 years. Maybe.

Or you could think outside the box and do something like this: https://www.zillow.com/homedetails/569-N-Front-St-Reading-PA...

It’s better to stay away from inner city Reading.   I’m interested in renting in zip codes 19606 to 19611.    Lots of murders and stuff in the city , included with people I know.   There is also a bedbug infestation there.   I taught in a school
for a brief 6 months and my students had the bites everywhere.

I’m looking to purchase multi unit or commercial property.   They passed new loan regulations where I only need to put 3% down on owner occupied 2-4 units, which is where I plan to start.

I do have skills.   I own an interior design and full home renovation business.   And I taught math forever in secondary and post secondary settings so I know the number side of things too.

Post: Let's talk strategy

Jennifer FernézPosted
  • Investor
  • Reading, PA
  • Posts 162
  • Votes 47
Quote from @Jim K.:

This is way too hypothetical with massively important variables missing.

1. The most important one, as @Tim Ryan points out, is the question of whether the investor is single or married. I am living proof that there's absolutely nothing more important than answering this first question first. My wife is fully involved in our business. She brought us our first deal. She handles many of our tenants these days.

We wouldn't have gotten off the ground if my wife was not right in this with me.

2. What's the stable blue collar job? Blue collar jobs is that they are usually linked into larger networks within communities. Here's a great example: C.S. has been my dumpster-rental guy for the last five years. He came to me by way of my mason, who also uses him.

C.S. is really damned good at what he does, and a big part of this is that he's a great communicator. Of course people talk to him, so he knows EVERYONE in the single-family renovation game in Pittsburgh. And he knows who's working regularly, who's only off-and-on, who's going through troubles, who needs extra work. C.S. is one of my first calls when I need somebody good at something specific. Ironically, C.S. isn't in the real estate game himself because his wife isn't up for the life.

3. How tight is your money game? Especially starting out, you're never going to get anywhere if you don't manage to get full and complete control if you don't have an absolute grasp on all your personal finances, if you don't know about lifestyle creep and the hedonic treadmill, if you or the person handling your money can't pinch a penny until the shield dents.

4. This business is never linear. Once you get to ten years in, your life is going to look very, very different than what it does today. I recently hit a buffet far away from our normal one down the street, and there were two guys in T-shirts and jeans in there talking at the top of their voices about how they were "$125K into this deal" and were working on "getting $50K out of this flip." That was me six years ago. Now I have other concerns.

Sure, I've been self-employed in the business now for two years and my wife just quit her main job, but we're not slowing down now. If you end up being the same way, your ten years may end up looking more like fifteen -- it might just be a better deal. Are you willing to accept that?

That's the real world of investing, instead of pie-in-the-sky strategizing at the buffet.


 1.  Single.   Finally.   Why does it matter in real estate?

2.   I’m a retired and disabled teacher.   I get my salary from SS now.

3.  I make plenty of money but want to make more.

4.  What are your concerns now?   What were they as each year went on?   Interested in hearing your mindset shift.

Post: Let's talk strategy

Jennifer FernézPosted
  • Investor
  • Reading, PA
  • Posts 162
  • Votes 47
Quote from @Tim Ryan:

This can be done.  One way to better your odds is to find a partner and do this together.  It will be easier to get $10k monthly cash flow together than $5k on your own. 

$5k is not overwhelming, but if you never really get started then it's a moot point.

Power in numbers.  Go for it !


 What is the difference in numbers?   It seems more like a headache to partner with someone but I’m interested in hearing your take.

Post: Let's talk strategy

Jennifer FernézPosted
  • Investor
  • Reading, PA
  • Posts 162
  • Votes 47

This post is for seasoned investors.

You are starting out and do not have a mortgage, yet. You work a stable job and make $5K a month. You've been able to save up and have $50K in liquid cash. Your goal is to create an income producing portfolio so that you can retire from your blue collar job in 10 years.

Tell me your best strategy to reach your goal.

Post: Let's talk strategy

Jennifer FernézPosted
  • Investor
  • Reading, PA
  • Posts 162
  • Votes 47

This post is for seasoned investors.

You are starting out and do not have a mortgage, yet.   You work a stable job and make $5K a month.   You've been able to save up and have $50K in liquid cash.   Your goal is to create an income producing portfolio so that you can retire from your blue collar job in 10 years.   

Tell me your best strategy to reach your goal.

What is the difference between insurance rates for single family home, 2-4 multi unit, and commercial unit?    


Thanks for your response, this provides good reason to what I was wondering.

Are the high insurance rates for commercial properties only?

I’m a math professor at a local college and teach personal finance and statistics.   Could you explain what is going on with the insurance rates and why multi unit properties are getting harder to profit ??    Super interesting topic.

Thanks for you input!

@Doug Smith thanks for such a detailed and informative response :)   I see you are well versed in creative financing. 

Here is the property:   https://www.zillow.com/homedetails/5-E-Penn-Ave-Wernersville...

The net operating income after expenses is $292K, and the proforma net income after expenses is $349K.   What is proforma?

The value at 9 cap is $3.2M and the value of proforma is $3.8M.

They are asking $2.9M and it has been on the market for over a year.

Do you have any creative suggestions that would work to aquire this property?   I currently have $100K in liquid funds and good credit with experience doing a handful of fix and flips and rent to rent medium term rentals.   @Brandon Croucier could you give input too