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All Forum Posts by: Jessica Piff

Jessica Piff has started 17 posts and replied 57 times.

Post: Using STR to beat LTR Income

Jessica PiffPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Churchville, MD
  • Posts 60
  • Votes 65

@Ken Boone

Thank you so much! I appreciate your response and thoughts. I love getting feedback from everyone here on BP! It's because of this community that we feel so passionately about getting into REI.

Post: Using STR to beat LTR Income

Jessica PiffPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Churchville, MD
  • Posts 60
  • Votes 65

@Nathan Gesner

Thank you for that well laid out response. We are aware of the additional expenses of STR, although I haven't run the exact numbers on it yet. I know that's a crucial step. There are a lot of automated systems out there to self manage in a less time consuming way and we would hire a cleaning crew, so although there's still the expense of the cleaning crew, I feel it would be considerably less than a property management company. I suppose once I run the exact numbers with furnishings and utilities, perhaps the income won't really be that much greater than long term rentals, but when the gross income is double to triple long term rent, it seems like it will still win even with the additional expenses.

@Luke Carl 

This is the episode we listened to a while back that got us completely fired up about doing STR out of state. It was so informative, very inspiring, and she makes it seem completely possible to successfully self manage STR. Obviously she has gained lots of experience that brought her to that point, but if someone can do it, then that means we can do it too. Of course there will be lessons learned along the way, but you have to start somewhere!

@Ken Boone

I definitely hear what you're saying about passive vs active. Our goal is to have passive income for sure, but our immediate goal is cash flow so I can quit my current job and have all of my time to build our portfolio and acquire more assets. I think in a year, once we have reached our first goal of $2000 a month of cash flow, then we will start shifting things to focus on making everything as passive as possible. What we're thinking now is that with STR, we can reach our $2000 a month of cash flow in less time and with less properties. Also, I don't mind being more active in the way of STR because it feels similar to the customer service jobs I've worked my whole life anyways. I love the world of hospitality and although we would be implementing all of the automated services out there, I don't feel like the work will be that bad. I know there will be moments of discomfort and things will pop up that we might not expect, but just as I said to Luke, you have to start somewhere!

Overall, whether we do LTR or STR, we are just starting out, and we know there's going to be lessons learned. Hopefully through the help of everyone here on BP, all of the podcasts, webinars, and REI meetups, we can avoid certain mistakes, but this is a journey we are excited to embark on and are willing to take the good with the bad. Nobody starts out perfect, and experience comes with time. We won't let fear hold us back, nor the thoughts of what if this or that. I think everyone can agree that the path to success isn't necessarily easy, but it's well worth it!

Post: Using STR to beat LTR Income

Jessica PiffPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Churchville, MD
  • Posts 60
  • Votes 65

Hi BP! 

So I have a thought and I just want to put it out there to get some feedback on it. 

Our strategy is to invest in small MF's and SFH with 4+ bedrooms that are under 100K. These properties are located in a town with a college and hospital. We've noticed that there are quite a few STR's in the area that are averaging a 50-60% occupancy rate. Although its not a "hot" market for STR's, the people that offer them there are definitely bringing in more income than if the properties were rented long term.

For example, a 4/1 or 4/2 SFH long term rental is averaging $850-$1000 a month. This same property on AirBnb is going for $150+ a night. This would mean we would only have to rent the house for 10 nights a month to beat the LTR income potential. On top of that, single room rentals are going for about $30-$45 a night.

In terms of the small MF's, 2/1 are renting for $750 a month as a long term rental. As a STR, they're averaging $60-$100 a night, which once again we would only have to rent the place for 10-15 nights a month to beat the LT rents. Or lets say if we bought a duplex with 2 3/1's then we would have 6 bedrooms to rent out for $30-$45 a night.

In addition to all of this, if the STR didn't seem to be working out, the properties would be fully furnished with the ability to do student rentals by the room or just get slightly higher rents as a whole.

Basically, we found a market where we can get duplex's and SFH's for about 60-75k. We really believe we'd be able to get considerable cash flow from these cheap properties by utilizing this STR strategy. One other thing we love about this strategy is that it would eliminate the cost of property management. We would still have the cost of a cleaning crew, but that would be considerably less than a property manager for LTRentals. There are so many people who self manage STR out of state with much success. I would be traveling to this area to do cosmetic updates and furnish the places.


I'm just wondering if anyone is using STR's to beat the LTR's in markets that aren't really big STR markets, but still have a decent enough occupancy rate to produce more income in an area where LT rents aren't really that high. Please poke holes in this idea and let me know if you think it could work as well as we think or if we're just missing the point.

Post: Team building to invest in Ohio!!

Jessica PiffPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Churchville, MD
  • Posts 60
  • Votes 65

My husband and I are also new OOS investors in Maryland who are targeting Ohio as well. We've chosen Cleveland and Toledo as the entry prices are easily attainable. We are focused on 3-4 unit MF under 100k. 

Post: Financial Friends {partners}

Jessica PiffPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Churchville, MD
  • Posts 60
  • Votes 65

We have many deals that we're hungry to move on. The only thing stopping us from doing it is the fact that until next year I can't get conventional financing with banks due to needing two years of tax returns for the business that I started last year (our main source of income.) 

There are two types of partners we're looking for:

1) Someone who has capital or has equity in their home that would be interested in funding these deals with us. (Could be split up 50/50, 60/40, etc. We have some of our own capital to invest) 

2) Someone who works a w2 job that can secure loans with conventional financing. This type of partnership requires no money from you as we have the money for down payments.

All of the properties we are interested in are under 100k. There are quite a few properties that are even under 50k, but they need rehab of course. I have contacts for trusted good contractors, as well as all the other boots on the ground to start making offers. Also, we are happy to take care of managing the property managers, and being the ones to "deal with" everything to do with the properties. We are focusing on small multi-familes 2-4 units, that are in high cash flowing markets that also have the potential for short term rentals. However, if anyone has the ability to fund larger deals, we are very interested in commercial multi-families as well.

On another note, if you're a lender and you will lend on properties under 100k based on the income produced by the properties, that is also very welcome and almost preferred! 

Post: MAREIA Main Meeting: SHARK TANK is back!

Jessica PiffPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Churchville, MD
  • Posts 60
  • Votes 65

I think I'm registered, but when I click print my guest pass nothing happens. I'm also wondering if I can bring my husband who is the other half of my RE team?

Post: Financing for Properties under 100K

Jessica PiffPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Churchville, MD
  • Posts 60
  • Votes 65

@Michael Glist

Would I know the difference based on an appraisal or is the value of the house not in line with asking price? Most of the properties are between 60-100k asking price. I also look at comps in the area and most of the deals I’m finding are comparable to other houses in the neighborhoods.

Post: Financing for Properties under 100K

Jessica PiffPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Churchville, MD
  • Posts 60
  • Votes 65

So I'm working on creative financing ideas to start acquiring properties without the ability to get conventional financing. The thing is all of the properties I want are under 100K. They aren't BRR's either. Pretty turn key with maybe the need for some new paint. I've called a bunch of CU's but they all require the same as conventional financing (2 years of business tax returns.) I've reached out to a few HML since they don't require the tax returns but haven't found one yet that will loan on properties <100k. Is there something I'm missing? Or do I just have to keep calling until I find the needle in the haystack? I'm so hungry to buy the good deals I'm finding, but just need financing. We have the capital for down payments, its just the other 80% we need to secure to start making offers!

Post: Credit Unions with favorable terms for investment properties

Jessica PiffPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Churchville, MD
  • Posts 60
  • Votes 65

Hi BP,

I'm looking for Credit Unions, either federal, or state (in Ohio), that have more favorable terms for investment properties. I've called just a few federals so far that only offer 75%LTV with a maximum of a 15yr term. Is this going to be common across the board or are there ones out there that offer 80% with 30yr terms?

Do you find that state credit unions generally have better terms than federal? 

Grateful for any insights and always grateful for this community!

TIA

Post: So you want to become a real estate investor?

Jessica PiffPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Churchville, MD
  • Posts 60
  • Votes 65

@Joe Stout

Hi Joe! Thanks for your positive reply! I’d be happy to connect, sending you a request and message now :)