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All Forum Posts by: Jerry Poon

Jerry Poon has started 39 posts and replied 230 times.

Post: How to place a property in trust?

Jerry PoonPosted
  • Real Estate Investor
  • Los Angeles, CA
  • Posts 235
  • Votes 67
Quote from @Katie Balatbat:

@Jerry Poon

You've received several differing responses all on 1 post, so you can see the value of a professional.  Personally, I think the quotes stated herein are quite low, and it's not surprising given that they seem to be for one of these DIY services, and honestly, you get what you pay for. If your parents only speak a foreign language, you'll definitely want to find someone who can converse with them easily and openly, and that will be a harder find.

As to the tax consequences, it really depends on what you're doing.  Most of the time there are no tax consequences, but that's not always the case and it depends on the person and their situation.  When completing an estate plan, the estate planner is simultaneously weighing estate taxes, gift taxes, income taxes, and property taxes to every proposed transaction and document.

Happy to provide some referrals in the San Diego area if you're willing to work remotely.

*This post does not create an attorney-client or CPA-client relationship.  The information contained in this post is not to be relied upon.  Readers are advised to seek professional advice.


 yes please!

Post: How to place a property in trust?

Jerry PoonPosted
  • Real Estate Investor
  • Los Angeles, CA
  • Posts 235
  • Votes 67
Quote from @Joe Homs:

@Jerry Poon what kind of trust?  A living trust or land trust.  These are usually generated by an attorney, but I have seen some websites that you can do it for FREE now.  

I don't know any Chinese speaking professionals.

Via an attorney you should not pay more than $1000 for these documents and then some recording fees.

Yes, if you do not file these papers correctly with the County recorder's office they MAY reassess the property taxes, which you do not want to happen.  Please make sure that your attorney knows what he is doing or contract a local Title Rep who may be able to help you out.

Good Investing...

 @Joe Homs I appreciate the response. It would be the trust where parents place their homes in so that their kids don't get taxes upon inheritance of the trust. Wow that is a lot cheaper than I expected. Very good to know!

Post: How to place a property in trust?

Jerry PoonPosted
  • Real Estate Investor
  • Los Angeles, CA
  • Posts 235
  • Votes 67

I have a SFH that I would like to place into a trust. How would I go about that? Do I have to reach out to a lawyer or something? Or what kind of professional would handle that?

Any recommendations on who to reach out to? Any recommendations on a Chinese-speaking professional who can handle that?

And what sort of fees should I expect to pay for this? Are there going to be tax repercussions, like the property being reassessed for property taxes or anything like that?

There is a property I manage with a couple of issues that require fixing. We are scheduling with the tenant on when the technician can go inside. If the tenant and I agree to a schedule, the technician shows up at the scheduled time, and no one lets in the technician, am I allowed to charge the tenant for this?

The technician will need to be paid either way, so if the tenant doesn't let him in, then I (or the owner) is on the hook for the cost. Therefore I want to protect the owner and I and pass on any charges incurred if the tenant doesn't oblige by the schedule. Is this allowed?

We have a lockbox where the technician can let himself in anyways, but this little thought exercise has me curious.

Post: Opportunity to start property management

Jerry PoonPosted
  • Real Estate Investor
  • Los Angeles, CA
  • Posts 235
  • Votes 67

Nathan thanks for the input. I don’t know why I didn’t even think of the licensing part. Thanks for pointing me in the right direction!

How did you get started? What advice do you with you had when you were just starting and looking to scale up?

Post: Opportunity to start property management

Jerry PoonPosted
  • Real Estate Investor
  • Los Angeles, CA
  • Posts 235
  • Votes 67

I have been investing in real estate for a few years now. I have an opportunity to manage a single family home if I want it. I think I know enough about real estate to be able to tackle this.

There are parts that I don't know (best software for very small portfolios, insurance if needed?, etc), and best practices that I would like input from seasoned pros.

I would like to know about those who started, how did you scale, and what are the most important lessons you wish you were taught before you started managing properties.

Post: How to fight insurance claim denial?

Jerry PoonPosted
  • Real Estate Investor
  • Los Angeles, CA
  • Posts 235
  • Votes 67

@Chris Seveney I appreciate the input!

Post: How to fight insurance claim denial?

Jerry PoonPosted
  • Real Estate Investor
  • Los Angeles, CA
  • Posts 235
  • Votes 67

A storm a month ago or so knocked half a tree down. The tree fell right next to a rental and the force took down an entire wall. The damage is about $15k.

I contacted our insurance and they are denying our claim, citing the following:
collapse, including any of the following conditions of property or any part of the property: (1) An abrupt falling down or caving in; (2) Loss of structural integrity, including separation of parts of the property or property in danger of falling down or caving in; or (3)Any cracking, bulging, sagging, bending, leaning, settling, shrinkage or expansion as such condition relates to (1) or (2) above

Their reasoning is that the tree didn't fall directly on the wall itself, and claim that the basement was faulty prior to the incident. We do not have pictures because the demo contractor was removing the tree at the dead of night in the storm.

How do I fight this? It is enraging that in a time of need the insurance company will do what they can do wiggle out of this. Why do I even pay them for the policy?

An attorney I am working with wants to write a letter to try and convince the insurance company on the basis of Efficient Proximate Cause. The attorney's fees for this are about $1k. I had my insurance agent reach out to the adjuster and he seems pretty dug in on his position. Is this letter worth the money to try and argue my case? I am worried that the insurance will just drag this out, demanding more $1k letters, possibly engineering studies, etc.

Any suggestions on what I should do?

Post: When to discuss your investments with your significant other?

Jerry PoonPosted
  • Real Estate Investor
  • Los Angeles, CA
  • Posts 235
  • Votes 67
Quote from @Alex Breshears:

I would say immediately. lol. If this is someone you want to build a life with, in any capacity, having that person understand your long term goals and commitment to them is crucial. It's not even about the money at this point, it is about making sure your goals are aligned. Imagine finding out later down the road that they are vehemently against real estate investing for whatever reason. Would you maintain the relationship then?  Now if you are more in the headspace of trying to build a household budget together, setting savings goals etc, that is a different conversation, but will still touch upon those long term goals. It is possible to stay in a relationship where you two have different expectations and goals around your financial lives, but the further apart you are the more friction there will be.  Finances are often the number one rule marriages break up, so think about that part too. Having "the money talk" with someone you want to build a life with is crucial.  Now think about why you are uncomfortable with discussing money with someone you obviously trust because you want them in your life over the long term.  Is it programming from childhood? Do you think this person will "go after your money"?  I would think about what's holding you back, and address that question first. Programming can be hard to get over, so just take it one step at a time!


 I love this. I appreciate the different perspective! Thank you for sending me down the right path. Those questions are ones I will need to really think over.

Post: When to discuss your investments with your significant other?

Jerry PoonPosted
  • Real Estate Investor
  • Los Angeles, CA
  • Posts 235
  • Votes 67
Quote from @Kevin Sobilo:

@Jerry Poon, I don't have this issue, but I do have a suggestion about it.

I know several investors who find themselves hampered in their investing by their SO who isn't into real estate investing, doesn't understand the advantages and is afraid of the perceived risks.

I suggest to them to treat their investing like a business that is separate of the relationship. You discuss whatever monies are needed to seed the startup of the business but after that its your thing alone. Obviously your SO benefits from any success but they aren't an active participant.

If your SO wanted to start a business outside of your area of interest would you feel you needed to be involved and have a say in it on a day to day basis?!? 


 Good way to think about it! I appreciate the input.