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All Forum Posts by: Jerryian Francois

Jerryian Francois has started 16 posts and replied 59 times.

Post: Should I use a heloc on my property for a flip !

Jerryian Francois
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Quote from @Kristi K.:
Quote from @Jerryian Francois:
Quote from @Kristi K.:
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Just curious. Where are you going to buy a house and improve it enough to flip it for a profit with $50K?

I’m currently in the Miami Market and although  I’m not looking for a 50k profit all in one deal which is possible in this market ! 

You can make $50,000 profit on a lot of deals, but not when you’re only using $50,000 to start with, you can hardly buy a mobile home in Miami for $50,000. 

 Trust me I know ! The plan was to use that 50k not all of it as a downpayment ! To a flip deal with a lender who will cover purchase and rehab cost 

Post: Should I use a heloc on my property for a flip !

Jerryian Francois
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Quote from @John Karg:

Hi Jerryian, 

2 years to repay for a Heloc is very short--most of the ones I originate come with 20 or 30 year payback terms, with 3-10 year draw periods where you can take out and put back money as many times as you'd like. I would recommend checking around to make sure it's the best you can get. Feel free to reach out with any questions!


i tried local credit union banks but they are saying me and my wife DTI ARE TO HIGH SO WE DIDNT GET APOROVED FOR A HELOC ! So we found a private money is that option to risky ? John


I agree with John here. I used a HELOC on my primary to buy and STR and I have 10 years to pay my HELOC back. I used a local credit union that is not even associated with the bank holding my mortgage. I would shop around.


Post: Should I use a heloc on my property for a flip !

Jerryian Francois
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Quote from @Dave Skow:

@Jerryian Francois- what are the terms for the HELOC ? rate / fees / payment amount ? Will 30-50K allow you to get your next deal completed ? Have you tried to get a standard HELOC ? Get pre approved for your next deal before you begin looking


So I tried going to a small credit union bank and they were saying our DTI IS HIGH so I kept looking around so my realtor just gave me a contact to a private lender who does heloc haven't had a chance to go over terms yet because he is on vacation he comes back tomorrow !

What do you think ? 

Post: Should I use a heloc on my property for a flip !

Jerryian Francois
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Quote from @Kristi K.:
Quote from @Jerryian Francois:

I’m wondering should I tap into that equity via private money heloc and use about 30-50k to get into a flip deal the lender is giving 2 years to pay back the heloc ! 

Just curious. Where are you going to buy a house and improve it enough to flip it for a profit with $50K? 

im currently in the Miami Market and although  I’m not looking for a 50k profit all in one deal which is possible in this market !  but to be realistic it  is possible to remake that in a year in this market . the private lender is willing to do the heloc for about 2 years what do you think ?! 


Post: Should I use a heloc on my property for a flip !

Jerryian Francois
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  • Posts 61
  • Votes 33
Quote from @John Karg:

Hi Jerryian, 

2 years to repay for a Heloc is very short--most of the ones I originate come with 20 or 30 year payback terms, with 3-10 year draw periods where you can take out and put back money as many times as you'd like. I would recommend checking around to make sure it's the best you can get. Feel free to reach out with any questions!

John

He is a private money lender he is not with the bank what are your opinion on that ? 

Post: Should I use a heloc on my property for a flip !

Jerryian Francois
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Quote from @Jerryian Francois:

Hey bigger pockets happy holidays to you all I really need some advice here !  So it’s been 3 years since I brought my first duplex @415k its now build up equity and is worth over 540k so I have equity in it a refinance doesn’t make sense because I’m locked in at a low rate but I do t want to wait until rates drop to get back in the market I’m wondering should I tap into that equity via private money heloc and use about 30-50k to get into a flip deal the lender is giving 2 years to pay back the heloc ! Would love to hear from you guys !? Thank you in advance 

Hi Jerryian, 

Yes thats a great strategy to get into flipping. Is this duplex your primary or is it an investment? Reason I ask is because Helocs have different terms depending on the property occupancy. Usually lenders allow you to go up to 70% LTV on investment Helocs but for primary owned properties you can go up to 90% LTV.

First thing is to figure out which category best fits your scenario. Then you have to see if you have enough room to use either or. One way to know your value is by using a virtual appraisal and if it comes in too low then you order a full appraisal to see if you can get a higher value. It will depend on the comps in your area. 

Do you have a deal ready to go? you will also need to time it correctly to know when you will need the money by. Theres many different terms for Helocs so its important to choose the best one for your needs. Theres 3 year, 5 year and 10 year draws. These are just a few things to keep in mind when using a Heloc. 

Hope this helps a little but more on how Helocs works. Everyone scenario is different. Happy to connect if you wish to discuss further. 

@Albert Bui @Matthew Kwan

Thank you for the advice the duplex is a primary and it has 3 units I. I don’t have a deal yet but I do have experience flipping ! So getting in and out won’t be a problem 2 years is enough The guy is a private money so it’s not the banks just wanted to know what a good deal would look like where I can repay the 50k and profit and keep repeating 

Post: Should I use a heloc on my property for a flip !

Jerryian Francois
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Quote from @Angela Martinez:

I would personally conduct a side-by-side comparison between a HELOC and hard money, and then proceed accordingly.


 Most definitely 🔥 the guy is a private money lender and he does helocs! 

Post: Should I use a heloc on my property for a flip !

Jerryian Francois
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Quote from @Axel Meierhoefer:
Quote from @Jerryian Francois:

Hey bigger pockets happy holidays to you all I really need some advice here !  So it’s been 3 years since I brought my first duplex @415k its now build up equity and is worth over 540k so I have equity in it a refinance doesn’t make sense because I’m locked in at a low rate but I do t want to wait until rates drop to get back in the market I’m wondering should I tap into that equity via private money heloc and use about 30-50k to get into a flip deal the lender is giving 2 years to pay back the heloc ! Would love to hear from you guys !? Thank you in advance 

It really depends what your goals are. I believe HELOC is a good option as you can work with the equity you have, invest it, and if there is a real nice return to lower rates, you can refi the duplex and have the next property as a bonus. Happy to help if you like
Well I’m looking to refinance but I don’t want to lose my rate that I locked in at 3.5 % I want to keep scaling with rental units but I don’t want to wait on the sideline this year so I’m thinking heloc to get in some flips 

Post: Should I use a heloc on my property for a flip !

Jerryian Francois
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  • Miami, FL
  • Posts 61
  • Votes 33
Quote from @Ray Hage:

I would say it depends on the terms and rate the loan. How much money is expected to be made from the flip? 2 years is plenty of time for a flip especially if it is mostly cosmetic. What kind of rate do you have with the HELOC and how sure are you about this particular flip? Have you worked with this contractor before? There are a lot of questions but these are things to consider to see how much risk/reward is involved


 So I have experience with the contractor i haven’t found a deal yet I have experience flipping but I never used a heloc .the guy private money and he gives out heloc using his cash haven’t talked to him yet about numbers he is on vacation but I was looking to pull out 50k so I can use that to get into a flip deal but wanted a idea what would that look like paying the 50k and making profit 

Post: Should I use a heloc on my property for a flip !

Jerryian Francois
Pro Member
Posted
  • Investor
  • Miami, FL
  • Posts 61
  • Votes 33

Hey bigger pockets happy holidays to you all I really need some advice here !  So it’s been 3 years since I brought my first duplex @415k its now build up equity and is worth over 540k so I have equity in it a refinance doesn’t make sense because I’m locked in at a low rate but I do t want to wait until rates drop to get back in the market I’m wondering should I tap into that equity via private money heloc and use about 30-50k to get into a flip deal the lender is giving 2 years to pay back the heloc ! Would love to hear from you guys !? Thank you in advance