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All Forum Posts by: Jennie Berger

Jennie Berger has started 16 posts and replied 258 times.

Post: Best Virtual Mailbox for Real Estate Business!?

Jennie BergerPosted
  • Developer
  • Chicago IL
  • Posts 268
  • Votes 184

I was going to ask the same question, @Jonathan Klemm! Glad to learn more about this service.

We have used a UPS Store address for the last 3 years and it works out well. I don't believe they scan all the mail, but they might offer that as an add on (not sure). What I like about the UPS store is it's brick & mortar, as opposed to a PO Box.

I swing by there once a month to grab any mail. Of course, we do most things online, so there is rarely anything of much importance in that box. For privacy purposes, however, I agree. Best not to use your home address, if possible.

Jennie Berger

Property People

Post: Chicago Keeping It Real Estate - Investor Meetup!

Jennie BergerPosted
  • Developer
  • Chicago IL
  • Posts 268
  • Votes 184

Hdy Joshua!

Are you sharing this event on any other platform as well? You may get a bigger response. 


I'm looking forward to attending and meeting you. South Loop is my hood so I love how convenient this is!🙌

Jennie Berger

Property People

Post: Air BnB locations - Chicago

Jennie BergerPosted
  • Developer
  • Chicago IL
  • Posts 268
  • Votes 184

STR operator in Chicago beware! 

Not to sound like a fear mongeror--and I'm basically echoing what everyone else here has already written. But, I've spoken with an STR attorney, and read numerous articles and threads on the city's website, as well as participated in STR-specific Facebook groups over the last year and a hald, and my conclusion is thus: I'm basically terrified of how Chicago treats STRs. This is not the investment vehicle for me in Chicago. MTRs, however, are a whole other ballgame. I believe both @Tom Casey & @Jonathan Klemm touched on it as well. Have you considered this strategy as an alternative?

Post: QOTW: If you've bought a property in 2022, how did you find it?

Jennie BergerPosted
  • Developer
  • Chicago IL
  • Posts 268
  • Votes 184

We bought two properties this year so far, both in Chicago.

1. One came from a Realtor we have worked with on various deals prior. She had access to an off-market development opportunity where the developer was selling his 'shovel ready' project. 

2. The other was listed on the MLS. It had been on the market for almost a year, at various price points. We got it for about $150k under ask. Our tear-down and new construction plan for this property required us to go through a zoning variance and special use permit process for the last 4 months. This is likely why other investors / developers shied away from the opportunity.

One way we have been able to find deals is by identifying properties that are on land currently zoned for something 'bigger'. For example: #2 above was a 2-flat in disrepair sitting on a lot that was zoned for much more residential (and commercial) units. In other words, the 2-flat was not the highest and best use of that property. 

As developers who specialize in new construction, I believe we live in a specific niche in our market--we don't operate by the same 'rules' as quick flippers and 'buy & hold' investors. 

Jennie Berger

Property People

Post: Subdividing Individual Parcel

Jennie BergerPosted
  • Developer
  • Chicago IL
  • Posts 268
  • Votes 184

We were going to split an oversized lot in Edgewater into 2 parcels. The goal was to tear the existing house down, split the lot, and build two new SFHs, side by side. *Note: By right, we were zoned correctly and had the proper sized lot to be able to do this.

I'm not sure if my situation is relevant to your property since you have 2 existing buildings on it, but...

I spoke to a couple of attorneys who have experience with these types of endeavors (applying with the county for the split) and they recommended the resources below.  

*Note: I did not hire the attorney for this purpose, so they were just giving me guidance on how to go about this.

If you'd like to DM me, i can refer you to a name of an attorney I like who was very helpful.

These resources may be helpful to you as well. Take a look.

https://www.cookcountyassessor.com/form-document/divisions-and-consolidations-applicationdivision

Instructions and filing fees here: https://www.cookcountyassessor.com/divisions


Jennie Berger

Post: Advice for someone wanting to get into real estate development

Jennie BergerPosted
  • Developer
  • Chicago IL
  • Posts 268
  • Votes 184
Quote from @Andrew Moore:

I started my career as an accountant for a small real estate development company in Chicago that developed mixed-use residential buildings. The owner of the firm illustrated the real estate industry to me by drawing a pyramid. The bottom of the pyramid is the least lucrative & the top is the most. The bottom rung included professions like property management & real estate agents, while at the top of that pyramid was real estate development & syndication. 

Everyone may have their own opinion of where different professions fall in that diagram compared to others. However, my point here is that there are a number of different ways that you can get into that space. I've worked with developers who started their careers in the financial sector; I've seen developers get their foot in the door at a development firm where they can grow and learn the process of development without risking their own capital before going out on their own; I've seen individuals graduate high school, get their real estate license, and create strategic relationships with individuals in the industry and utilize those relationships to get into the development space. 

To piggy back on what @Wale Lawal said above. Getting a real estate specific degree, a finance or Accounting degree, or Economics degree (among many other types of degrees), may prove to be beneficial in giving you a base level of understanding to hit the ground running once you graduate. 

I think your first question was backwards, meaning it should be in this order -> getting started, working with experience investors, raising funds & finding capital. I believe the best way to put yourself in a position to work with and learn from experienced investors is to show that you have a conversational understanding of real estate, and a desire & willingness to grow. I recommend getting started by being an absolute sponge. Read every book that you can, engage in the forums, watch youtube videos, practice analyzing deals, and get to a point where you feel comfortable communicating with other investors. 

Once you have that foundational understanding & can have thoughtful dialogue with other industry professionals, I think it is much easier to network with experienced investors who might be willing to mentor you or partner on a deal. Once you have established working relationships & a track record of success/competence it is much easier to approach private investors with opportunities they may be willing to provide capital for.

You are in a great spot as you could look for summer internship programs with real estate development firms, or an analyst program for a company like Cushman & Wakefield (or other similar companies) where you may start to understand how to analyze or value larger assets.

I love the clarity you have at this point in your life, and wish you the best of luck! With a continued desire to learn and grow I think you'll be able to make it a reality.

 ☝️THIS.☝️ End of story. 🙏

I am currently working with a friend of mine who works for an attorney who does just this. They charge a percentage of whatever they end up saving you. So, if nothing changes, you pay nothing. 

Another option a colleague mentioned to me is a flat fee service. He used it for appealing taxes on his personal condo. I believe he said he paid around $150 and got to keep 100% of his savings from the appeal.

Since I haven't completed my process yet, I have nobody per se to recommend. However I hope this gives you some options!

Post: Straight Up Chicago's Top Networking Event - Summer 2022

Jennie BergerPosted
  • Developer
  • Chicago IL
  • Posts 268
  • Votes 184

@Tom Shallcross We'll be there. Can't wait!

Post: Sub Metering Solutions

Jennie BergerPosted
  • Developer
  • Chicago IL
  • Posts 268
  • Votes 184

We haven't developed anything over 4 units at this point @Jonathan Klemm. Thanks for thinking of us to help here however!

Post: Recommendations for general contractors in Cook County?(IL)

Jennie BergerPosted
  • Developer
  • Chicago IL
  • Posts 268
  • Votes 184
Quote from @Faiz Kanash:

Hey guys,

Anyone happen to have any good general contractors or developers they're able to recommend for work on a duplex in cook county or dupage county? Trying to get an idea on who I could work with, as well as ask about rough ball park prices before committing into my first investment property.  Thank you!


We develop and build new construction SFHs and small condo buildings on the North side of Chicago.  Our approx build costs are between $145-$190/SF, depending on exterior structure materials & finishes. 

It's almost impossible to give you an accurate estimate based on limited knowledge.  However, this is a ballpark price based on OUR pricing that I feel comfortable sharing with you. If we were hired as GCs/Consultants for this, add about 15-20% on top of that. 

*Add in demolition fees (if applicable) and land costs to the above. Note that while lumber prices have come down, other materials (cabinetry, plumbing fixtures, etc.) are increasing still. So, you'll also want to factor in an extra contingency buffer into your budget for 'unknowns' and 'material price escalations.'

I hope this is helpful!