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All Forum Posts by: Joe Doman

Joe Doman has started 27 posts and replied 121 times.

Post: Added Unit 3 and 4 to my rental portfolio!

Joe DomanPosted
  • Investor
  • Canton, MI
  • Posts 131
  • Votes 32

@Timothy Colman The content of the letters depended on the property and they were specific to my area (I hand wrote a lot of them). I would say something like I own a rental property near by I am looking to buy another. Let me know if you are looking to sell. -very simple stuff, i just tried to sound like a real person. I send out maybe 30 a month so nothing huge. At this point I keep things very niche.

I look at return on cash more than actual dollar of cash flow. I like 10% or higher depending on the properties condition/risk. I currently bring in about $600 net cash flow from a duplex i purchased in 2012 --> $300 per door. Much harder to find deals with those numbers these days... at least in my experience. 

Post: Refinish/Paint kitchen cabinets on a flip. Would you?

Joe DomanPosted
  • Investor
  • Canton, MI
  • Posts 131
  • Votes 32

I painted my cabinets at my personal residence twice now. The first time I learned the hard way to make sure you properly sand and use high quality paint... ugh, any contact and the paint would scrape off and look horrible. I had to strip, sand and start all over. 

I would be interested to see if it cost less (and looks better) to just replace the doors like @Adrienne Bryson mentioned vs professional painting. -of course it would be cheaper if you were to paint it yourself... but you would need to weigh the cost of your time spent on a project like this.

Post: Added Unit 3 and 4 to my rental portfolio!

Joe DomanPosted
  • Investor
  • Canton, MI
  • Posts 131
  • Votes 32

Last week I closed on my second rental property, a duplex in Canton MI!! It feels like a huge mile stone in my REI career as this is the first property I bought as a pure investment. –The first rental was a duplex where we lived in one side…

As some have probably experienced, the market is very hot in my area. I spent over a year making offers on properties with a realtor with no success. It was not until I tried direct mail marketing to where I finally landed a deal. (I will be honest, it was very awkward fielding phone calls at first but I’m glad I did!).

It was a no frills deal… The seller was an older couple that just wanted to “retire” from the land lording game (they were super nice and easy to work with). We negotiated a price that would work for both of us. Some items came up in the inspection in which the seller took care of before closing (about 5k in electrical and roofing issues). There are great tenants in place (Rent is a bit lower than market but they take good care of the place, do yard maintenance, have great payment records, etc.). –all in all, a good experience with no surprises!

It was a strange feeling after we closed… “so now what” my wife asked, “uhh nothing, we just pick up the checks on the first”

One thing I would share about my REI experiences so far is, don't be afraid to go outside the typical RE agent transactions. I did a lot of "Driving for Dollars" to build a mailing list and I am still sending mail. –I actually have another property in contract from this. (see my last post for details on this. It has structural issues so I might assign or walk away).. I definitely recommend starting sooner rather than later with direct mail. –if for nothing else, you get experience talking with sellers.

@Marshall Downs the property was built in 83. So it is not too old. I have another property almost identical, built in 76, that is very solid.  It is very strange. I feel like it was not built correctly and drainage problems compounded the issues

Thanks for the replies,

I hired an inspector to take a look and he said it was one of the worst foundations he has ever seen. It is poured concrete. All four walls appear to be shifting inward. When looking from the outside, there is a good 18inch separation from where the siding and foundation on the worst side. (maybe pics will explain better.. will post soon) There are plenty of cracks in the basement that have been patched. The biggest being about inch wide. Although they have been patched, water has still been coming in. Steel beams, and vapor barriers have been installed but the inspector said it is just a Band-Aid.

The inspector asked me if I had an inspection clause in the purchase agreement.. I said yes, he said "Run!" -but after seeing some post here, it seems like it's worth at least getting a few bids.

Hi all, I am in contract with a duplex in Canton mi. The numbers were looking very good until I got the property inspected and major foundation issues arose. The seller is very motivated, she is willing to lower the price, but because I am not experienced with foundation issues, I have no idea what to do. It almost makes more sense to assign contract? Does anyone have experience doing flips with foundation issues??  -I am really interested in learning. Maybe we could work together??

I am near livonia, plymouth, westland, Garden city, Ann arbor, se michigan

Post: New Here

Joe DomanPosted
  • Investor
  • Canton, MI
  • Posts 131
  • Votes 32

Welcome Jennifer!

I am a fellow resident of Canton MI as well!

From what I have learned, having a re license can be a disadvantage wholesaling in some cases, if a disgruntled seller decides to take you to court, you are considered a "professional" a can be seen as taking advantage of the them

 (I have never done a wholesale deal, so im no expert... I'm sure others can chime in too)

I was looking to get some professional pics for a rental of mine... can you pm me with more details, rates etc.

Thanks! -Joe

Post: Seller agrees to carry back financing, running myself thin?

Joe DomanPosted
  • Investor
  • Canton, MI
  • Posts 131
  • Votes 32

wow! Thanks @Billy Gulley, I think I need to look into this a little more deeply..

-I put in the "hypothetical" because I was working out the details when I first posted... I actually offered 3 options, one with interest, one without int, and one cash offer. The seller is really stuck on getting their purchase price and the only way I feel I can get to it and make it benefitial for me, is to offer principal only option. And they seem to be most interest in the prin only option... I'm just trying to create a win-win for both me and the seller.

I was not sure if it was legal to sell a land contract to another investor... knowing that I cannot now, it takes away an exit strategy and makes it a bit more risky... do you know if that is a federal law, or state specific?

The cash flow is very good with the terms mentioned above. After the term, I would be in a good equity position to refi or cash out. I am pretty bummed to hear these tax issues... it might be worth calculating the irs int tax to see how it would impact roi? It sounds like there are other legal issues with this? 

Most likely, I am going to renegotiate.

I appreciate the response! Good stuff!!