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All Forum Posts by: Han Oh

Han Oh has started 10 posts and replied 68 times.

@Joseph M. Hi Joseph, sorry for the delayed response. Yes, I am focused on doing flips in SoCal, especially in the IE but given that it is extremely hard to find and acquire good deals these days, I'm thinking about expanding into the LV area as well.

@Joseph M. It was in Victorville. But even in Victorville, I consider myself lucky to have found a house for $65K.

So about 3 months ago I had posted this thinking that escrow was going to close soon after. Boy was I wrong!

https://www.biggerpockets.com/forums/223/topics/52...

We finally recorded and closed today. It took almost 3 months since we originally opened escrow to sell. The buyer was FHA and the lender found out later about the 90 day flip rule so had to close and reopen the file again. Fortunately, the buyers really liked the house so they were OK paying for a second appraisal. Then at the last minute the lender requested yet another (a 3rd!) appraisal, the reason being that the purchase price was less than half of the sale price and it was a HUD requirement. That's one thing I learned. So here are the numbers:

Purchase: $65,000

Rehab: $48,000

Holding, closing costs & misc: $19,000

Sale: $172,000

Net Profit: $40,000

ROI: 35%

Some pictures of the finished product:

@Anna M. I realized I forgot to answer your other question about the squatters and the neighbors. It took quite a bit of effort, money and time to get "all" the squatters out along with their "belongings" and empty the house out completely of all the junk and debris. Thankfully they were not bad people at all, just people who were taken advantage of and ended up in a bad situation in spite of their best intentions. So I didn't want to make their situation worse than it already was for them and decided to forgo the eviction process and just help them out. So there was no incident in getting them out other than it took a little longer than I anticipated. As for the neighbors, they were nice people too, they just liked drinking and enjoying themselves. My contractor ended up befriending them, helping them with some of their repair needs, even buying them lunch and stuff, to the point where they offered to be the eyes and ears for our house to keep it protected while we were working on it. So all in all, everything turned out really well, and the most important thing I learned from all this is that what goes around comes around, you treat people fairly and nicely and most of the time they will respond to that. Oh and by the way, the house is still in escrow due to close in a few weeks. Once it does I will share the final numbers and also some pictures.

Post: $50,000 Profit Mobile Home Flip!

Han OhPosted
  • Laguna Niguel, CA
  • Posts 71
  • Votes 29

I always pass up any mobile home deals. Maybe I should be more attentive going forward!

@Anna M. Thank you Anna. There were many reasons I decided to go after this house but the main reason was of course the numbers. One big lesson I learned from a big failed flip was to never trust your numbers until you verify everything with your eyes and in person, including the comps. The numbers made sense when I did them on paper, but it made more sense when I actually went to check out the house itself, the houses in the area that I used for comps, the streets, the neighborhood and everything in between. Of course I also had my contractor come and give a me estimate of repairs and that pretty much solidified it. 

After hundreds of offers on the MLS I finally hit another gold mine. It was a short sale that was already in escrow due to close in 10 days. The agent said the buyer, an investor, had backed out at the last minute for unknown reasons. He had lost not only his deposit but all the time and effort he had put in waiting for the bank to approve of this sale and this price. The deal had been in the works for more than a year I heard. The price seemed to good to be true, especially in Southern California, so I told the agent that I wanted it.

Me: "All cash offer with no contingencies"

Agent: "Ok I'll give it to you, you have my word for it. But before I do, there's a few things I need to let you know"

Me: "Sure, what's that?"

Agent: "First of all, have you seen the house yet?"

Me: "No"

Agent: "Ok. I suggest you go see it first, most likely drive-by only, as there are squatters in it, not one, but many."

Me: "Oh ok"

Agent: "The house has been vacant for a long time, it's been broken into several times, cops have been called by neighbors at least on a couple of occasions, and the city has a pending lien on it due to unsafe dwelling"

Me: "Oh..."

Agent: "The owner lives out of state and he doesn't want to deal with it. The last time I've been to the house was before the squatters moved in. Haven't seen the inside since then"

Me: "And when was that?"

Agent: "Like a long time ago.. I just strongly suggest you first go take a look, at least from the outside, then decide if you want to move forward"

Me: "Sounds like a good idea, thanks"

And so two months after our initial discussion, on October 25, we closed escrow and I became the new owner, with the squatters still in there. Four days after we closed, I was at the house with a uhaul truck getting the guys packing and moving. My contractor was ready to start working on the house at any instant and he needed it empty. It wasn't until well into the construction started that we were able to clean the house out of all the squatters and all their stuff and all the trash and debris that had been accumulating in the house for years. It was so much stuff, so much so that it took me one full day and the contractor two full days, two full 17-footer truckloads and 3 full dump trailer-loads to empty out the whole house. You may be asking why I went thru all the trouble rather than just simply evict them. Well, I'm glad I did what I did. 

Anyways, construction began right the next day and we put our finishing touches by the end of the second week of December. My contractor, who has been in the business for over 30 years, had not seen anything like it before - a lot of things in the house didn't make sense until we found out what has been going on in there. The squatters, that have been living in there for quite some time, were not bad people. In fact, they were decent, trying-to-make-ends-meet people, who themselves got cheated by the real bad people. And I'll tell you I learned that there's all kinds of bad people that make money in strange and clever (with a bad connotation) ways. So yes, the squatters were paying rent to some real bad people who were not even the real owners.

The city inspector came and he loved it, of course, after his memory of the initial sight when the house was full of junk and people. Biggest concern I had from day one, when I went to see it before deciding to proceed with the purchase, was the next door neighbors. Really loud, drinking from sunrise till sunset, and always outside in the patio area which directly faces the house, which is not only audible but very visible. Many of them, mostly male, sometimes female and children too. So I was really worried it could have a potentially negative impact on the resale.  Well, two days after listing the house we got multiple offers, some over asking, and I could not be happier and more grateful to God. 

2017 was the year when I went through the lowest point of my flipping career (albeit a short 2-year one) after losing a significant amount of money and sleep and weight, hair, smile, relationships, self-confidence, and self-esteem. I lost all that but I gained more knowledge and experience, more patience and composure, more will and determination to never give up and keep pushing on. And I sincerely thank God for this blessing as I end the year humble and ready for more.

Post: Newbie from Fontana, California

Han OhPosted
  • Laguna Niguel, CA
  • Posts 71
  • Votes 29
Hi @Daniel Kim congrats on taking that first step! I did the same about two years ago and since then went thru many trials and tribulations to get this thing up and running to where I am right now (2 flops and 3 flips :-) I'm wrapping up my 5th flip and actively searching for my next project. Feel free to reach out if you have any questions!

Post: Mailing campaign in high price range areas

Han OhPosted
  • Laguna Niguel, CA
  • Posts 71
  • Votes 29

@Jami Bahrami You can meet wholesalers in the OC by going to REIA meetups, looking in CL, via other investors or agents, googling up 'I/We buy houses,' etc, etc. By the way, just curious... why do you want to market to high priced areas in SoCal?