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All Forum Posts by: Jason Malabute

Jason Malabute has started 543 posts and replied 1391 times.

Post: investing out of state

Jason MalabutePosted
  • Accountant
  • Los Angeles, CA
  • Posts 1,413
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Originally posted by @Larry Fried:

@Jason Malabute It is not a question of which is better, but which is better for you and your circumstances.  This can be influenced also by where you are buying.  So, I would consider buying turnkey a more passive way to go, while building you own team will take additional effort and risk on your part, especially if you new to the market.  Plenty of investors start off buying turnkey in a market and then move into something more direct once they have established market knowledge and contacts, and have more time.  In either case, I encourage a visit to the market and meeting with any providers who you are considering.  

 thank. you. very helpful.

Post: investing out of state

Jason MalabutePosted
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  • Los Angeles, CA
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when investing out of state is it better to go the turnkey way instead of finding a deal, renovating property and getting property management yourself? why?

Post: investing out of state

Jason MalabutePosted
  • Accountant
  • Los Angeles, CA
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Originally posted by @Tom Ott:
Originally posted by @Jason Malabute:

Hi All,

I live in Los Angeles.

I was wondering what is the process of identifying, analyzing, and investing out of state?

How long does the process of investing out of state normally take (newbie)?

I will not have capital to invest until January 2019... What should I be doing/studying until then?

Thank you,

JM

Hello and welcome! If you are investing out of state, turnkeys might be a great way to go. Ideally the provider will own the property, do all the renovations, and manage it all for you in house. Watch out because some providers do not do that and I would stay clear of them.

Try looking at:

The Best Types of Markets for Profitable Turnkey Properties

and

How to Find the Right Turnkey Real Estate Investment Company for You

 thank you so would you recommend going with turnkey instead of building my out of state portfolio myself from scratch?

Post: investing out of state

Jason MalabutePosted
  • Accountant
  • Los Angeles, CA
  • Posts 1,413
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Originally posted by @Account Closed:

I would suggest reading some books and reading the forums here. There are many people that invest out of state. You can find them right here on the forums or your local REIA and pick their brain. You could buy a turnkey property and be all set fairly quickly.

 im considering turnkeys

Post: investing out of state

Jason MalabutePosted
  • Accountant
  • Los Angeles, CA
  • Posts 1,413
  • Votes 660

Hi All,

I live in Los Angeles.

I was wondering what is the process of identifying, analyzing, and investing out of state?

How long does the process of investing out of state normally take (newbie)?

I will not have capital to invest until January 2019... What should I be doing/studying until then?

Thank you,

JM

Post: cerebral palsy and real estate investing in LA

Jason MalabutePosted
  • Accountant
  • Los Angeles, CA
  • Posts 1,413
  • Votes 660
Originally posted by @Andrew Cushman:

@Jason Malabute, that is a tough one.  I live in SoCal as well and invest only out of state since the cash flow here is so poor.  My advice is usually to find a way to invest in different markets. However, based on what you wrote, I'll answer on the assumption that you are only going to invest in the LA area.

First, how are you finding your deals? If you're just looking at stuff on the MLS, then yes a low offer is very unlikely to get accepted. I would work hard to find off market properties: network at REI meetings, form relationships with good agents, put adds on Craigslist, do some direct mail, etc. Additionally, look for something value add. It might be ok to pay close to market value for a property that needs some work and doesn't cash flow well to start with if you can renovate and then soon after have a property that is worth much more. That is one benefit of the super low cap rates here - a little value add can go a long way for creating value! You then sell or refi and move on to the next one. A friend of mine recently bought a 4plex in LA for $1.5 million, upgraded it a bit, and then sold it for $2.2 million within a year, netting almost half a million profit.

When evaluating properties here, look at renting by the room in addition to renting the unit as a whole.  In many cases the total amount of rent you can get is much more when you rent by the room.

Another thing to consider is this: what is the cheapest rent you can find for yourself here?  Then, if you took the money you have and invested in multifamily somewhere else, would your cashflow be enough to cover that rent?  If so, it could make sense for you to rent here while owning somewhere else.  I have met a surprising number of investors who own a large portfolio of properties but rent the place where they live!

It is challenging here, but it can definitely be done.  Many people have made a fortune in LA real estate.  Stick with it and make it happen!

Good luck,

Andrew

 Thank you Andrew this is the best advice that I have gotten so far.

You are correct I need to meet outside the box in getting leads.

My question is how do you know if an upgrade adds value to a property and by how much?

Do you recommend any good REI groups in LA?

Thank you,

Jason

Post: cerebral palsy and real estate investing in LA

Jason MalabutePosted
  • Accountant
  • Los Angeles, CA
  • Posts 1,413
  • Votes 660

Thank you Andrew this is the best advice that I have gotten so far. 

You are correct I need to meet outside the box in getting leads. 

My question is how  do you know if an upgrade adds value to a property and by how much?

Thank you,

Jason

Post: cerebral palsy and real estate investing in LA

Jason MalabutePosted
  • Accountant
  • Los Angeles, CA
  • Posts 1,413
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Thank you all. Actually the rent should cover the mortgage because I am putting such a big money down. I was hung up because of the lack of CF after considering CF. If we are not considering the CF mortgage and property tax should be covered. 

Post: cerebral palsy and real estate investing in LA

Jason MalabutePosted
  • Accountant
  • Los Angeles, CA
  • Posts 1,413
  • Votes 660

I need some advise please:

So I have $200k to put down. I am pre approved for a $580k duplex, $640k triplex, or a $700k fourplex. My mom is a co-borrower (I would not get approved without her). The condition of the loan is that the property has to be owner occupied. In 2018, I will be receiving a large chunk of capital ($400-500k) that I will be investing in real estate also.

Here is the dilemma, since LA and it is a "seller market" I am having a hard time getting my offers taken seriously because it is so low. I offer way lower than asking price because that. is the only way I will cash flow with 3% vacancy, 25% repairs, 5% Capex, and 10% property management fee on top of the fixed expenses.

I am a CPA who HAS CEREBRAL PALSY AND I DO NOT DRIVE. THEREFORE, I CANNOT LOOK FOR PROPERTIES AN HOUR OUTSIDE OF LA BECAUSE I WOULDNT BE ABLE TO GET TO MY JOB THAT IS IN LA. It is also not that easy to quit your job and move when you have Cerebral Palsy.

I have to move out soon(by July or August) I dont want to waste my capital on renting. I also don't want my preapproval to expire.

I was thinking would it be a good idea if I just buy a duplex in LA that I can live in for a long time (for more than a year) even if it does not cash flow? As long I am house hacking and having the second unit pay my mortgage.

I will then use the capital that I will receive in 2018 to buy a property or properties outside of LA where it actually cash flows and has a decent ROI while still living (house hacking) in duplex that I buy in property that I buy in 2017. I could also use some equity from my first property by then.

I just want to get my foot in the door

Is this a good idea to change my strategy or should I keep offering low in LA market?

Thank you,

jm

Post: cerebral palsy and real estate investing in LA

Jason MalabutePosted
  • Accountant
  • Los Angeles, CA
  • Posts 1,413
  • Votes 660

I need some advise please:

So I have $200k to put down. I am pre approved for a $580k duplex, $640k triplex, or a $700k fourplex. My mom is a co-borrower (I would not get approved without her). The condition of the loan is that the property has to be owner occupied. In 2018, I will be receiving a large chunk of capital ($400-500k) that I will be investing in real estate also.

Here is the dilemma, since LA and it is a "seller market" I am having a hard time getting my offers taken seriously because it is so low. I offer way lower than asking price because that. is the only way I will cash flow with 3% vacancy, 25% repairs, 5% Capex, and 10% property management fee on top of the fixed expenses.

I am a CPA who HAS CEREBRAL PALSY AND I DO NOT DRIVE. THEREFORE, I CANNOT LOOK FOR PROPERTIES AN HOUR OUTSIDE OF LA BECAUSE I WOULDNT BE ABLE TO GET TO MY JOB THAT IS IN LA. It is also not that easy to quit your job and move when you have Cerebral Palsy.

I have to move out soon(by July or August) I dont want to waste my capital on renting. I also don't want my preapproval to expire.

I  was thinking would it be a good idea if I just buy a duplex in LA that I can live in for a long time (for more than a year) even if it does not cash flow? As long I am house hacking and having the second  unit pay my mortgage.

I will then use the capital that I will receive in 2018 to buy a property or properties outside of LA where it actually cash flows and has a decent ROI while still living (house hacking) in duplex that I buy in property that I buy in 2017. I could also use some equity from my first property by then.

I just want to get my foot in the door

Is this a good idea to change my strategy or should I keep offering low in LA market?

Thank you,

jm