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All Forum Posts by: Account Closed

Account Closed has started 17 posts and replied 474 times.

Post: TOILET PAPER ARBITRAGE... A New Form of Investing for 2020+

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Originally posted by @Daniel Hyman:

Funny. What about Clorox products, Hasbro games, and home office equipment?

 ...just toilet paper

Post: TOILET PAPER ARBITRAGE... A New Form of Investing for 2020+

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Originally posted by @Ray Johnson:

@Jason Allen I've seen the photos online of the people that have hoards in their garages. One woman has 48 large cases, another woman 65 cases. Once the hoarders slowdown or stop the purchases, the shelves will start to fill again.
Yesterday at the Walmart near my office, I asked the store Manager how often are they getting deliveries, he said daily, they usually sell out between 10-11am.

Granted I live in a more civilized neighborhood where the hoarding isn't as insane as it is in Los Angeles where my parents live.

Take action quickly while the demand is there

What geniuses... Is there any way we can get the contact information of these women. They could become major wholesale distributors or drop shippers in the coming months. Maybe we can do some sort of joint venture... Get them on the BP podcast anyone...?

Post: TOILET PAPER ARBITRAGE... A New Form of Investing for 2020+

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Originally posted by @Kyle J.:

Very creative thinking.  You may want to embed the following calculator into your metrics to help the consumer decide how many rolls to purchase: 

Online Toilet Paper Calculator: A simple calculator to determine how much toilet paper you need to survive the pandemic

 Ha, this is awesome!

Post: Lender backed out after closing docs signed

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Originally posted by @Ryan Weimer:

Was supposed to close on a 4 plex Friday 3/20.  Final closing docs were late getting out to me but were signed on 3/19 evening and shipped the next morning.  Disbursement date on the docs was 3/20.  The docs did not arrive in time to title to close on 3/20, so I got a 2 business day extension to close (3/24).  As of this morning, everything was set to close today according to title.

As of an hour ago - I received an email and a call from my lender that they were suspending funding to all loans because of COVID19, including my file.  I am going to lose this deal and wanted to know my rights here (if any) for legal action.  I have never heard of a situation where I am cleared to close, final docs are signed, and the lender just refuses to send the wire.  Any thoughts out there what I can do?

 Welcome to the new normal...

Post: Bad time for a flip?

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Originally posted by @Staci Craft:

A fixer upper just came on the MLS in my area. It looks like it has great potential but I'm worried to pull the trigger on my first flip during a global pandemic. What are your thoughts?

 LOL... Uh yea

Post: Strip Club Owners Renting Airbnb's - BEWARE!

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Originally posted by @Chase Hoover:

As if we didn't have enough BS to deal with right now... With the mandatory closure of strip clubs in Florida and elsewhere, strip club owners and regulars have resorted to renting Airbnbs to continue their operations.  It happened last night at one of the properties we manage.  Needless to say, today will be spent disinfecting and making a list of every single item in the house that was damaged to file a claim with Airbnb.  Be sure to screen any last-minute bookings that come in over the next couple of weeks!

MODERATOR NOTE: In appropriate images have been removed.

I don't see any problems here. You're making money while some STR people are not.

Post: Strip Club Owners Renting Airbnb's - BEWARE!

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Originally posted by @Luke Carl:

Cameras are against the rules other than on the FRONT of your property. The back of the property including the yard/pool/roof deck is considered living space and this is not allowed.


also.... I don’t see any rules being broken here? What’s the issue? People aren’t allowed to drink in bikinis at your property? Sounds like a boring vacation. 

I’ve said it 1000 times. If you get in the habit of watching your cameras.... you will never succeed. It’s best to not know. 

 For once I Lucas Carl and I agree... 

Post: TOILET PAPER ARBITRAGE... A New Form of Investing for 2020+

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Hey folks,

I'm officially taking my money out of the short term rental/Airbnb markets and 'dumping' it all into the toilet paper industry.

With the massive shortages that are likely to take place in the coming months I see a great opportunity to capitalize on the increased demand. With the increases in Price Per Wipe (PPW) already taking place there's ample opportunity for both flipping product as well as renting out TP for daily, weekly and monthly rates.


Here's a quick guide for getting started in toilet paper arbitrage:
Step 1: Find a Distributor or Manufacturer
Step 2: Acquire Toilet Paper (in bulk)
Step 3: Wait for Prices to Skyrocket
Step 4: Sell Toilet Paper
Step 5: Repeat...


Important Metrics:
- Price Per Roll (PPR): (Total dollar amount of rolls sold ➗ Total number of rolls sold)
- Price Per Wipe (PPW): (Average Price Per Roll ➗ Total number of wipes in one roll)
- Wipe Rate (WR): (Total number of rolls ➗ Total number of days)
- Toilet Paper Coverage Ratio (TPCR): (Wipe Rate ➗ Total number of rolls ➗ Total number of days)

Right now I'm working on getting these uploaded into the BP calculator for Pro members... so stand by.

Good luck!

Post: How does this story end? Prediction for 2020

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Originally posted by @Serge S.:

I am perpetually game planning future moves and this exercise inevitably requires taking a position on how the near future will unfold and the best way to benefit. I am interested in hearing what BP users think is about to unfold. Here is how I see it:

Stimulus provides very temporary tenant relief. April bad debt spikes to 5-15%. 

By mid April the banks tighten lending. Bridge debt disappears. 60-65% LTV becomes norm. DSC minimum over 1.5. Cash out refi impossible to get. Multiple appraisals required. Frozen capital until the market resets to new normal.

By summer economic vacancy of 15% becomes the new normal.

Vegas condos in trendy hotels like Signature MGM, VDARA, Palms are selling for $150-250k.

Hospitality assets will be trading on ten-x auctions and $1M will buy you a 100 key Quality Inn in a decent metro like Tucson, Houston, etc.

Multifamily holds on the longest as operators scale back cap ex and race to the bottom on concessions, rent price, etc.

Retail strip centers in urban sprawl suburbs sit vacant no debt market or tenancy demand. 

Syndicators that purchased in last 24 months in "hot growing" markets like Vegas, PHX, at 3.5% cap rates etc get cleared out by 2021. No point to run large capex value adds without the rent bump but can't pay mortgage without the rent bump = disaster. There will be a whole class of very disappointed investors. 

2019 Hottest SFR markets will become worst performing by 2021. Homeowners get bailed out and are allowed to refi and ride out job loss.

Media pins economic disaster on Trump, Biden gets elected and quickly passes stimulas #2,3,4.

Hoping none of the above turns out true but I've seen this movie before. 

Another thing is that during the great depression we had less population density in large metropolitan areas and many people coming out of the agrarian age had basic survival skills. Now the population has increased considerably, most people live in large cities and no one has any basic survival skills. Do the math folks... 

Post: How does this story end? Prediction for 2020

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Originally posted by @Serge S.:

I am perpetually game planning future moves and this exercise inevitably requires taking a position on how the near future will unfold and the best way to benefit. I am interested in hearing what BP users think is about to unfold. Here is how I see it:

Stimulus provides very temporary tenant relief. April bad debt spikes to 5-15%. 

By mid April the banks tighten lending. Bridge debt disappears. 60-65% LTV becomes norm. DSC minimum over 1.5. Cash out refi impossible to get. Multiple appraisals required. Frozen capital until the market resets to new normal.

By summer economic vacancy of 15% becomes the new normal.

Vegas condos in trendy hotels like Signature MGM, VDARA, Palms are selling for $150-250k.

Hospitality assets will be trading on ten-x auctions and $1M will buy you a 100 key Quality Inn in a decent metro like Tucson, Houston, etc.

Multifamily holds on the longest as operators scale back cap ex and race to the bottom on concessions, rent price, etc.

Retail strip centers in urban sprawl suburbs sit vacant no debt market or tenancy demand. 

Syndicators that purchased in last 24 months in "hot growing" markets like Vegas, PHX, at 3.5% cap rates etc get cleared out by 2021. No point to run large capex value adds without the rent bump but can't pay mortgage without the rent bump = disaster. There will be a whole class of very disappointed investors. 

2019 Hottest SFR markets will become worst performing by 2021. Homeowners get bailed out and are allowed to refi and ride out job loss.

Media pins economic disaster on Trump, Biden gets elected and quickly passes stimulas #2,3,4.

Hoping none of the above turns out true but I've seen this movie before. 

I think that's an optimistic assessment.