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All Forum Posts by: Jarrod Hannon

Jarrod Hannon has started 8 posts and replied 26 times.

Post: (Soon) New electrical contractor

Jarrod HannonPosted
  • Posts 27
  • Votes 10

Hi all. 1st I want to start off saying I think I Chose the correct category, so please forgive me if I did not. I am starting up my own electrician company soon. I like most new businesses am trying to get a feel for what to prepare for. More specifically I'm trying to get a feel about how many RE investors are looking for electricians. I am trying to get My name out there and I hope this is ok and if not please someone direct me how to properly do so and I will gladly comply, but another big question I can't fully decide on is whether or not to hire an apprentice right away. I'm up in Princeton, MN but am looking to work in my area and more so in the north west suburbs. I haven't been in the cities for a while so I don't know the demand currently and am looking for advice from other professionals and others familiar with the industry.

@Jon D.

Hey Jon. I was reading through everyone's comments and this entire discussion seems to have veered into many other topics so let me give you an outside point of view.

I'm currently living North of Minneapolis in a small town called Princeton. I'm currently working on getting my master's electrician license (test on the 19th) and also working on getting my real estate license (passed state and national exam, need to finish course 2 and 3) and I have learned a LOT from my somewhat unique position. Unique as In I am unable to advertise or talk about the fact that I will be a licensed agent and own an electrician company because of laws claiming it gives me an unfair advantage. On top of this I have been listening to all the podcasts on real estate, money and business on this platform, I read many forum posts and have followed many of the top producing agents and investors. The reason I say all this is I look at it many points of view. Oren Klaff would put someone in my situation into a place of potential and power of choice and work thisintonegotiation tactics. Dale Carnegie on the other hand would find a way to put his client first at any cost because he knows that means a higher chance of repeat business. Me personally being someone is in the process of starting their own company and dreams of starting their own brokerage looks at this situation and thinks it's just more trouble than it's worth. Nothing bad to say about any way anyone wants to do things, just that different people have different opinions, goals and limits of what they're willing to take on. If it's a good deal then work it out, but it sounds like something is missing because if they just found out it's prone to bad flooding then that either should have been disclosed to you immediately (to the best of my course 1 knowledge) or if they just found out that should drop the price without question.

I also seen some talk about hourly rates and agent 1 does the exact same thing as agent 2 and it's all 6/3% commission no matter what so why not negotiate the price down if it's closed so fast? That answer is simple; you also owe me for the years it took me to learn how to complete the job as fast as I did, not only for the time it took to complete the job. There's no secret hidden prices in real estate agents commission, you can negotiate a little, maybe, but it's not like it's going to be a multiple thousand dollars difference on a $200k home. Any business owner at all knows that there is a lot more cost that goes into getting a job done then just simply materials and labor. Same goes for real estate agents. Brokerages have brokers fees, lawyers fees, listing fees, utilities, taxes for the company, themselves and their employees if they have one or 2, rent on their office, drive time, gas, internet, phone, like 3 different types of insurance and I'm sure there's more. Bottom line is an brokerage is hired by someone to sell their house period. It's a bid, not an hourly rate. If they get it done faster then that should be celebrated. If I hire someone to paint my house and they said it would take a week but got Done in 2 days I Don't get a 60% discount. Think about this if you owned your own company or even an hourly wage earner. If you have a deadline on when something needs to get Done and you get Done early do you get the rest of the day off paid or if you were the company owner are you going to pay your employee to go home? It's all dependent on how your pay is negotiated, point being made 3/6%.

I wish you good luck on your quest to find an agent, but just being honest as I'm not even in the field yet, what you're asking for sounds more complicated than I would be comfortable with, especially with the way the market is, probably best to look for someone who has much more experience, but also keep in mind someone who has much more experience might also not want to entertain that idea either if they already have a funnel full of clients.

Oh wow, thanks for the info everyone.  A fixer upper is just fine and she's looking about 15 to 20 miles east.  200 was a feeler but 300 is more on the higher end.  Will be a bank loan.  

Looking for a property for a friend who is currently renting in Austin. I don't know the market down there (I'm in MN), but I figured I would give it a try here. She's looking for a 4 bed 2 bath with a couple acres of land. Looking to stay around $200k. Looking to be somewhere east of San Antonio. Thanks for your time all.

Post: Choosing the right career path

Jarrod HannonPosted
  • Posts 27
  • Votes 10

@Matt J. I ended up deciding to get my Masters license. I ended up failing my test by 2 questions (it's an incredibly hard test with a 29% pass rate) so I gotta study a little bit more, but just looking at the future of electricity it's definitely the future, at least the near and mid future.

Post: Choosing the right career path

Jarrod HannonPosted
  • Posts 27
  • Votes 10

Wow, thanks for your advice. Despite being in the field I really only see a small part of it because I currently work for a company so I hop in my van and go to where my little piece of paper or text tells me to, believe it or not we in the field rarely know where we are going until 5 at night the day before and for obvious reasons owners don't like to share any more information than necessary so it's a little nerve wracking to think about leaving a stable job and jumping up into that blue sky but it definitely makes me feel better and have more confidence hearing from outsiders (of the exact field) their opinions and experiences.

Post: Choosing the right career path

Jarrod HannonPosted
  • Posts 27
  • Votes 10

Hi, all. I'm up in Minnesota, just an hour north of Minneapolis. My goal always has been, is and will always be to retire young from REI, but there are a few things I want to do to diversify my income and security level until then. Today, I just passed my national and state tests for my real estate license. I still have to finish my last 60 hours of class time, but the hard part is over. Tomorrow I am taking my test to get my Master's electrician license. Now that I briefly covered my background, the problem I'm having is deciding which path to choose. At 1st I thought I could both, but I absolutely can not. I still have a family I need to spend time with, but handling one company is manageable. In my state it takes an additional 3 years of being a salesperson before I qualify to take the test for my broker's license. Getting my master's electrician license means I can start my own company immediately (I know there's a bit more to it, but this is the most logical and legal way). Basically this means I'm starting at ground zero in both fields. I know that the real estate market is all over the place right now, but is it something you would be worried about? Does being a real estate agent in this current time before a possible burst still have a high probability of making $100k+ a year? I keep hearing from a couple people that the market is avoiding agents all together currently because houses are selling for well above asking price on the same day with no inspections. On the other hand it's almost spring time so at least for us it's the busy season coming up. I guess what I'm asking is as a group of investors what is your experience in what is predictably going to be in demand? Electricians are in demand, but is it enough to take the risk of taking out a $100k loan to start a company that I'll be on a diet of Ramen noodles for the next year or are you so desperately looking for trades that I can hold up a cardboard sign and land 3 jobs within an hour? Normally both careers would take a couple years to become established, but with everything going on I'm looking for as much advice as possible.

Thanks

Hey fellow members I'm bigger pockets. I am looking to start a career in real estate. Right now I am a full-time electrician and my wife is in the army so I don't have a tremendous amount of time to spare at a moment's notice, but real estate has always been a passion of mine I've been on the bigger pockets forums and podcasts business books real estate books just obsessively studying about all of it for the last two years and I'm getting to the point where I'm ready to transition into it. I don't know where to start I don't know who to talk to I don't know if anybody would even want to hire somebody to do a real estate for them just ever so frequently but I figured that if I had any questions that this would be the number one place to go on this is my first stop.

Post: Looking to start a career in real estate

Jarrod HannonPosted
  • Posts 27
  • Votes 10

Hey fellow members I'm bigger pockets. I am looking to start a career in real estate. Right now I am a full-time electrician and my wife is in the army so I don't have a tremendous amount of time to spare at a moment's notice, but real estate has always been a passion of mine I've been on the bigger pockets forums and podcasts business books real estate books just obsessively studying about all of it for the last two years and I'm getting to the point where I'm ready to transition into it. I don't know where to start I don't know who to talk to I don't know if anybody would even want to hire somebody to do a real estate for them just ever so frequently but I figured that if I had any questions that this would be the number one place to go on this is my first stop.

I feel like the amount of frugality is different for everyone. if you're making $40,000 a year then living a lavish lifestyle is probably out of question, but if you have a household income of $200,000/yr then you can still put away and invest $100,000 (half) and still live a damn good lifestyle. when I hear the phrase "live below your means" I always think of it as you need to look at your budget and decide where you want to be According to your own finances.