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All Forum Posts by: Jamie Stone

Jamie Stone has started 8 posts and replied 36 times.

Post: Hard Money Question

Jamie StonePosted
  • Investor
  • Lake Oswego, OR
  • Posts 36
  • Votes 19

Suppose I had to use a hard money lender for the rehab portion of the house I am looking at (I have the money for the purchase - depending on the price they accept). Do I need to form an LLC to receive a hard money loan, or will they lend to an individual?

Jamie

Post: Tips for Oregon?

Jamie StonePosted
  • Investor
  • Lake Oswego, OR
  • Posts 36
  • Votes 19

Thanks for the great info. I did pick Salem as one of the markets to analyze as a part of Rookie Bootcamp.

Post: Tips for Oregon?

Jamie StonePosted
  • Investor
  • Lake Oswego, OR
  • Posts 36
  • Votes 19
Quote from @Lawrence Potts:
Quote from @Jamie Stone:

Hi everyone,

I'm about halfway through the Rookie Bootcamp and trying to absorb as much information as possible. I've also read Ashley Kehr's new Real Estate Rookie book, and I'm reading Buy, Rehab, Rent, Refinance, and Repeat by David Greene and will follow that with J. Scott's Estimating Rehab Costs.

I've started looking at markets in Oregon and would love any tips anyone who has invested in Oregon has on profitable markets and what strategies work. 

You will probably roll your eyes at the following statement because I'm sure all of us newbies gravitate toward it — "I've been looking at BRRRR."

BUT

I'm unsure if it is suitable for a newbie as it seems to require a solid understanding (which I lack) of both buy and hold coupled with principles from a flipping strategy. Also, as a newbie with the interest rates being what they are, the margin for error on a BRRRR now seems razor-thin. Half the people I talk to say to stop reading about it and do it, and the other half tell me to hold off until I learn more.

Is there an alternate strategy to get me in the game that works in an Oregon market? House hacking is not really in the cards with my family situation at the moment.

Note: I live near Portland in Lake Oswego but am open to considering any Market within 3-4 hours away.

Glad to have you here Jamie! More than happy to help you out.

It honestly depends on your long term goals. Here’s a truth: you most likely will not cashflow yourself to financial freedom, success, whatever you want to call it, in the state of Oregon with residential real estate. And that’s okay. We take what the market is giving us, play with the cards dealt to us, and we can still make it work.

Technically the BRRRR strategy has the "flip concept" built in with a few tweaks to your numbers. The rehab portion should be the point where you have two options: rent, refinance, repeat, OR flip, profit, repeat. If you are owner occupying this, it's easier to refinance and repeat because your LTV requirements are favorable versus non-owner occupying. It really depends on the deal and your margins, deal by deal.

There are markers in Oregon that are “profitable”. But I’m assuming you’re saying profitable as in flipping? Or profitable as in cashflow? Or equity? Focus on suburbs surrounding high population growth that are following job growth. Look at Happy Valley: they exploded in the last 5-10 years. And the housing market followed. Canby is growing a lot. You could go southwest towards Newberg, Tualatin, etc. Even as far south as Salem. But identify where large job growth is happening (Amazon, HP, etc.) and housing should follow. Couple that with any areas that have severe inventory limits and are not building new (Corvallis versus Salem) and that can be a huge incentive as well.

I don’t know what your goals are so I can’t answer your question very well; if house hacking isn’t in the cards, what are your cards then? Can you owner occupy a live in flip and then refinance and move on to the next one? Can you live and flip and sell? We’d love more details to help.

You could buy, rent and hold, maybe cashflow, maybe not, but hold for a few years until you’ve gained enough equity through appreciation and principal paydown and then sell 1031 exchange into cashflow (if that’s your goal). Maybe syndicating might be better for you? Or partnering up with someone?

Hope that helps!

Would you be opposed to me messaging you directly?

Post: Tips for Oregon?

Jamie StonePosted
  • Investor
  • Lake Oswego, OR
  • Posts 36
  • Votes 19

Hi everyone,

I'm about halfway through the Rookie Bootcamp and trying to absorb as much information as possible. I've also read Ashley Kehr's new Real Estate Rookie book, and I'm reading Buy, Rehab, Rent, Refinance, and Repeat by David Greene and will follow that with J. Scott's Estimating Rehab Costs.

I've started looking at markets in Oregon and would love any tips anyone who has invested in Oregon has on profitable markets and what strategies work. 

You will probably roll your eyes at the following statement because I'm sure all of us newbies gravitate toward it — "I've been looking at BRRRR."

BUT

I'm unsure if it is suitable for a newbie as it seems to require a solid understanding (which I lack) of both buy and hold coupled with principles from a flipping strategy. Also, as a newbie with the interest rates being what they are, the margin for error on a BRRRR now seems razor-thin. Half the people I talk to say to stop reading about it and do it, and the other half tell me to hold off until I learn more.

Is there an alternate strategy to get me in the game that works in an Oregon market? House hacking is not really in the cards with my family situation at the moment.

Note: I live near Portland in Lake Oswego but am open to considering any Market within 3-4 hours away.

Post: Hello Bigger Pockets!

Jamie StonePosted
  • Investor
  • Lake Oswego, OR
  • Posts 36
  • Votes 19

Thanks, I appreciate that!

Jamie

Post: Hello Bigger Pockets!

Jamie StonePosted
  • Investor
  • Lake Oswego, OR
  • Posts 36
  • Votes 19

Thanks for posting Noah. I'm in Lake Oswego, new to BP (in the Rookie Bootcamp), and a bit overwhelmed. Reading about your path to your 18 unit property is inspiring. I'm looking at the BRRRR method but it's a bit intimidating since there are many ways to mess it up when inexperienced.