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All Forum Posts by: Jamie Jones

Jamie Jones has started 5 posts and replied 200 times.

Hi Marco,

Congrats on the college graduation! My advice is to crawl before you walk. The easiest way to get into real estate is to buy a home for you to live in. You will find much easier and cheaper financing options and can get into a home with as little as 3% down (and depending on your income, potentially no money down). If you can find a duplex that doesn't need a ton of work, great, but any single family/townhome will work. If you are single, look at renting out any extra bedrooms. This will help cover your mortgage payment, and free up more of your cash that you can use to buy your next property. After a year or two of living below your means, you should have some ample funds (due to your roommates covering your housing payment and money saved from your job) to go out and buy another home to live in. Repeat this process a few more times, and in 10 years time you can have 4-5 properties in a high-growth area.  

Post: Conventional loan & cashflow or FHA & break even?

Jamie JonesPosted
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Hi @Steven Catudal, you don't have to be a first-time home buyer to get an FHA loan, so nothing is stopping you from using a conventional now and then FHA on your next one. The main caveat with that is you may be limited on how much rental income you can use from your departing primary residence (the house you are buying now) when you go to buy the next one, unless it is at least 100 miles away.

Now to your main question, you could always look at still going FHA but putting more than the 3.5% minimum down. At a 5% down payment, your MIP is reduced. So maybe you could look at doing somewhere around 5-10% down and seeing how the numbers pencil out? This could be a way to hold on to a little more liquidity while still cash flowing. Also, you can now purchase 2-4 units on a conventional loan with as little as 5% down, although sometimes the PMI on that can be quite a bit higher compared to FHA.

Hi Milind, yes I'd say 7.5% is fair rate for the current market on a rental. A lot depends on your credit score as well, 780+ is top tier as far as pricing out conventional mortgages. 

Post: Flooring Installers Needed

Jamie JonesPosted
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  • Nashville, TN
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R&T Direct Flooring was great when I needed my LVP replaced in a townhouse rental. Here is the link to their website. They were very helpful and personal. They are located in Mt Juliet but my property is in Murfreesboro and they had no issues. 

https://randtdirectflooringtn.com/

Post: Brainstorming Creative House Hacking Scenarios in Nashville / Middle Tennessee

Jamie JonesPosted
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  • Nashville, TN
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Hi @Laura Winegardner, I'd have to agree with Luka, option 1 may be your best scenario for your goals. I have had many clients do the same thing, and all have proven successful for a couple of reasons: 

1. Because they are living in the property, there is a larger margin for error and people seem more willing to take action instead of sitting on the sidelines, like so many wanna be investors do (this is the most important part!). This also allows you to obtain an owner occupant loan, which comes with lower down payment requirements and lower interest rates. 

2. Because you are renting out part of your home, you are able to typically drastically reduce your housing expenses, and therefore you can build up your cash reserves so much faster than most people can so you can go out and buy your next property. 

3. You are getting hands-on property management experience and investing in a growth market like Nashville. 


As far as certain areas of town, many of my clients have found homes with walk-out basements in the Donelson/Hermitage area that work perfect for this house hack strategy. I also have a realtor client who has an East Nashville listing right now that is fully remodeled with a walk-out basement that includes a kitchen. Here is the link for the listing for reference: https://www.zillow.com/homedetails/1615-Stratford-Ave-Nashville-TN-37216/41085810_zpid/?

Something like this where you could live in the remodeled basement and rent out the full house would be a great introduction into real estate and really set you up for success. 

Quote from @Faiz Kanash:

Hello!
Just a question to see if this is doable... Is it possible to refinance a hard money loan into a traditional/DSCR 30 year loan if I don't have that much equity in the property? Not a cash-out refinance, just a general refinance. For example, I buy a 4 unit using a hard money loan(Interest only 12 month) but only put 5% down on the property, and after finishing fixing it up I want to keep it for rental income. But, would I be able to get a traditional/DSCR loan on it if I only have 5% equity in the property, or would the lender require me to put down additional money onto the property?

Thanks!


Hi Faiz, if you are looking for a no-cash out refinance using a conventional loan, the max LTV is 75% on an investment property. IF you were living in one of the 4 units, then we could go up to 95% LTV and pay off that hard money loan with only 5% equity.

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Like others have stated, it really comes to what kind of financing you are looking for. In many cases, it may actually be a more streamlined process when obtaining financing if you are getting a conventional mortgage. If you are getting some form of commercial or portfolio loan, then it will really be lender specific. Most depository banks would rather have their clients have liquid assets compared to real estate, which they deem as illiquid, with the hopes that they can eventually get those deposits/investments under their own management. I work for a bank and we would be way more likely to make an exception to a borrower who has $1m+ in liquid assets compared to someone with $5m+ in RE holdings. Hope that helps! 

What if the sale means there will be no income (because all income was from the multifamily that is part of the sale)? The goal is to buy more multifamily.

 What kind of property/loan are you looking to obtain?

Post: New Investors and happy to be here

Jamie JonesPosted
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@Michelle Gorham congratulations! The first step in REI is always the hardest. I have been partnering with my dad on several investment deals now to help with passive income and retirement as well. Do you know where your husband and you are planning on investing next?

 @Nate Meeker Thank you! I think I will be looking at Murfreesboro, TN for my next deal. Looking for a rental property, one that I can use the BRRR method on.

 @Michelle Gorham Murfreesboro is a great rental market! There is strong growth with the proximity to Nashville but a little easier to make the numbers work. I see you are in the Pacific Northwest - what made you choose M'boro? I am local lender in the area and also own a few LTR's in the Boro. If you'd like a connection to an investor friendly agent in the area, please feel free to pm me. I have used him on several transactions and he's great and is also very involved in the local meetups in the area if you are looking off-market. 

@Jamie Jones Thank you!  When I am ready to look into that market, I will pm you.  I am looking in that area since my son just moved over there.  I will be looking for a duplex or tri-plex probably starting in March.

 Sounds good @Michelle Gorham, talk soon! 

Post: Contract for loan from parent?

Jamie JonesPosted
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Echo what Mike said. Make sure the funds are considered a "gift" and not a "loan" as they have very different classification in the underwriters eyes. If you are occupying the property, you can use gift funds immediately, but if it's an investment then yes you will need to wait until you have 2 fully complete bank statements that do not show the large deposit. 

what is the estimated appraised value as-is?