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All Forum Posts by: Jacob Trogan

Jacob Trogan has started 10 posts and replied 135 times.

Post: Loan Options Advice

Jacob TroganPosted
  • Lender
  • Kansas City, MO
  • Posts 141
  • Votes 70

Also depending on your location we can give you the 100k if you have no other liens on the property. If you are not in KC look into a local hard money lender and they could probably do something similar

Post: Why So Called Wholesaling is not an sustainable business model

Jacob TroganPosted
  • Lender
  • Kansas City, MO
  • Posts 141
  • Votes 70
Quote from @Account Closed:

The truth about wholesaling real estate needs to be finally told from a real estate pro like myself with almost 40yrs in the real estate business with buying and selling properties all over Northern & Southern California. It's so much bad and borderline illegal information being taught by these Fake gurus that's just all lies!!!!....The facts are real estate so called wholesaling is extremely hard to do consistently and when you don't have no money, no nothing and you are flat broke an getting into real estate purchase contracts with sellers and lying to them about buying their property when you don't have any money is straight up FRAUD!!!! When you are living in your Momma's basement is the most stupidest thing you can get yourself into you are just asking for trouble because you don't know what you are doing!!!....Why this is being taught is absurd because you are falling in an area where you are brokering deals without a license and selling contracts which are selling securities without a license. That's what they don't tell the SUCKERS because it will never I mean never hold up in court when you get seud for fraud. What these so called wholesalers don't understand is that an real investor like myself needs to buy a fixer upper property at least 65%- 70% below market to make a profit on any deal because I have my own crews. That means a so called wholesaler needs to find a property at 50%- 60% below market to make any money if they know what they are doing it's impossible to do that consistently nobody is giving away properties these days. That's why 99.9% of them fail not lasting it's not an sustainable business model you can't buy at 75% -80% below market and make a profit with labor & products an supplies at all time highs just ask "Zillow Buys " that's why they got out the fix n flip business and they had Billions of wall street money!!!....It's about time an experienced pro like myself tells the public the truth because nobody is doing it be ME!!!!...I am sick and tired of these so called wholesalers calling me everyday about complete Trash deals wasting my time I block all of them Now!!!!

I see too many people successfully wholesale to even continue this post! It is possible and completely sustainable! Anyone here wanting to do it can. But most will fail. It is one of the harder ways to get started. I recommend finding a job instead and just shooting straight for your goals. If you want to invest in real estate do it rather than make money from it! You can find a way to invest with little money it is possible just harder than if you had a little money. So most people would be much better off just saving up a few months by working a job and spending less than they make. The number one problem is that people want something for nothing or want reward without sacrifice. All these bad wholesalers aren’t helping anyone and are in bad financial situations because they can’t budget there money so it doesn’t matter if they wholesaled 100 properties because they would spend everything they made. 

Post: Requirements for BLOC

Jacob TroganPosted
  • Lender
  • Kansas City, MO
  • Posts 141
  • Votes 70

Hey everyone I am interested in a business line of credit whether it be secured or unsecured. What banks/credit unions would you recommend? 

Post: Lending question: HELOC vs REFI?

Jacob TroganPosted
  • Lender
  • Kansas City, MO
  • Posts 141
  • Votes 70

Do both! Use the cash out refi money for anything you can't pay back in a few months so maybe the purchase! Use HELOC for rehab funds on properties that you are planning to rehab, HELOC is variable so you don't want to max it out and then have the rate climb and be caught with your pants down.

Post: Loan Options Advice

Jacob TroganPosted
  • Lender
  • Kansas City, MO
  • Posts 141
  • Votes 70
Quote from @Aaron Leger:

Hi all,


Currently working on flip #2 and renting a cheap apartment. Working towards buying multi families. Should have some decent cash after flip 2 (250k). Working a 1099 day job and doing okay. Was wondering what some loan options are that would be okay with my 1099 job W/O 2 years tax returns. Some decent places in my price range and geographic range and it kills me to watch them come and go. Wanna get into something while I finish my flip. I won the flip house out right, and though I need about 100k to finish, it’s all debt free. Advice please :)


Bank statement loans. Reach out for contacts I can point you to. As far as your flips good job as a HML I tell people this is a great way to build capital!

Describe exactly what you described here seems pretty credible to me. Also simply share your daily activities that you are already doing. Let’s connect I am 22 and on a similar path here in KC Wichita is a great area in many ways and not in others

Post: First rental property!!!

Jacob TroganPosted
  • Lender
  • Kansas City, MO
  • Posts 141
  • Votes 70

I am seeing these boarding houses pop up. Most seasoned investors I speak to discount them too much. But those selling them probably overhype them. If I learned anything from my first deal it’s that I am not as smart as I think. Did I make money? YES. But nothing close to what I thought and way more effort. Why do you think you are smarter than most investors with this property? You may be but it will probably be harder, I’m sure it will all work for your benefit though. CONGRATS! Reach out to me if you want. Check out padsplit, very interesting platform that Mark Cuban invested into.

Post: To buy with cash or not to buy with cash

Jacob TroganPosted
  • Lender
  • Kansas City, MO
  • Posts 141
  • Votes 70

There are ways to close on a property with a "cash offer" to make it more competitive without then having to follow through and actually use the cash or you can buy the property in a purchase money fashion which would function the same as cash

Post: High DTI and How to Get over It For A HELOC (W2 is a trap)

Jacob TroganPosted
  • Lender
  • Kansas City, MO
  • Posts 141
  • Votes 70

Private money - ok I am looking at that - I would love an open ended LOC with a private investor though but I am guessing that is hard to come by

Post: Can you cash out refinance a HML into a DSCR loan?

Jacob TroganPosted
  • Lender
  • Kansas City, MO
  • Posts 141
  • Votes 70

Absolutely, be aware of more fees with this route