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All Forum Posts by: Account Closed

Account Closed has started 8 posts and replied 3607 times.

Post: CAP rate and COC Question

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Cap rates are inappropriate to use for SFH's.

Post: Buying in Norther California

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Investors look for rent growth and appreciation. Also, you'll rarely hear of a unit sitting vacant for any period of time like in the Midwest. Also the milder climate results in less maintenance. Wall furnaces are common and air conditioners not needed so you're not replacing multi-thousand HVAC's. You are getting higher rent per square foot/toilet. Think of all the expenses based on sf.

Post: Paying Cash for Primary Residence

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Originally posted by @David Krulac:
@Account Closed

That's not how the IRS works. You spend $100,000 this year on a tax deduction and get back $28,000 this year. So for every $100,000 tax deduction you waste $72,000 that you'll never see again.

So you can give me $100,000 this year and I'll give you back $28,000 and we'll both be htherappy.

I don't work for the IRS. And neither does my money. If keeping cash in your house didn't throw away the TIME VALUE OF MONEY & LEVERAGE then I could agree with you. You want to point out one aspect of financing real property and ignore ALL the benefits. It's a package deal. As I said the tax deductibility is just an added benefit on TOP of all the sound financial reasons. But if you want you can stick all your cash in your sugar jar for all I care. It's about informed choices.

Post: support dogs what can and cant I do

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Guide dogs & service animals are covered under Federal ADA. You are basically limited to two questions. 1. Is this a service animal? 2. What does the animal do for you? More than that and you're looking at a lawsuit. ESA, emotional support animals may be covered under state law. My understanding is that Hawaii passed a state law that gives them the same protections as service animals. In either case bad behavior is not protected.

Post: cap rate clarification

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Originally posted by @Adam Stanton:
While we're talking cap rates, what's the best way to determine cap rates for a particular market?

Cap rates are the result of an open market sale. You would look at recent actual sales of similar property types in your market.

Post: Paying Cash for Primary Residence

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Originally posted by @David Krulac:
@Account Closed

I think the opposite, I can't tell you how many times people have said yes but its tax deductible. You said you would take all the money I have at 3-4%, I was not offering any money at 3-4 %.

But I'll make an offer back to you. For every dollar US that you give me, I'll give you back 28 cents, just like the tax deduction.

So you'd rather have say $100,000 sitting in your house than out earning 4%. Fine.

And you'll give me $28,000 and I'll pay you back $100,000 in equal payments over the next 50 years? I think we have a deal!

Post: Newbie with SFH opportunity: Family Matters and Prop Tax Exempt?

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Originally posted by @Account Closed:
Originally posted by @Ryan J.:
What consideration is it that the house is appraised at 340k but our purchase price is 315k, leaving 25k of untapped equity built-in to the deal? This seems hard to walk away from because it seems like it could finance a deal next year and/or absorb some of the repair/vacancy costs since this would be a buy-and-hold investment for us.

That $25K isn't equity. It's air. As you said, it's trapped. You can't sell or refinance to gain access to it because it's not really there. The top 10% is almost always air until you get in the $750K+ range IMO.

Since this is a family deal and involves a senior, I strongly suggest that your family get some tax advice. If your Grandmother hasn't been living in the property these past 8 years, she's going to owe capital gains on the sale. That's something that she and your father might not have planned for, but it could make a big impact on the entire financial picture.

Grandpa died two years ago and Grandma should have received a 100% step up and has only been out of the property for 8 months and only needs 2 of 5 years.

Post: Newbie with SFH opportunity: Family Matters and Prop Tax Exempt?

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Originally posted by @Aaron Montague:
I understand @Account Closed 's rationale, but I just did the math out on a 8% IRR for this place. By my calculations you break even if you sell during month 46. By month 60 you are only up $16,500. My calculations assume 11% appreciation and 8% rent increase.

Now, without the IRR calculation you look amazing. Break even with a sale in month 19 and if you hold for 60 months you'll be up 280k.

The Excel doc I created can be found here:

http://www.biggerpockets.com/files/user/montaa/file/irr-against-appreciation-and-rent

This deal doesn't hit my numbers (15% cash on cash return and $150/door) until month 85 when the rent goes to $3333/month. That is a long time to wait for me.

I'd like to see your numbers but your document won't come up. But just using your numbers with the 11% annual appreciation you have an increase in equity of about $163,000. Your calculations say there is a negative cash flow of $100 a month so 48 months times $100 is only $4,800 against the $163,000 so you're up $158,000 in four years without counting rent increases.

Post: Paying Cash for Primary Residence

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Originally posted by @David Krulac:
@Ace A.

The interest rates are at historic low, so I would probably finance fixed rate for 30 years, This presumes that you are planning to live in or keep the house maybe even as a future rental for a long period, but not necessarily 30 years.

The tax advantage of getting maybe a 28% deduction for each dollar spent means that you are spending $1 to get 28 cents. Not a wise investment.

I agree with @J Scott if you have the money, you should be paying cash for non-income assets.

Most people don't borrow to get a tax deduction. That's just a happy by product of utilizing leverage and the time value of money. I'll take all the money you have at 3-4% over 30 years.

Post: Newbie with SFH opportunity: Family Matters and Prop Tax Exempt?

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Originally posted by @Aaron Montague:
@Ryan J.

This isn't a good deal from an investment point of view. I see you losing at least $100/month on the property.

I'd need to pick this place up for $158k. I

I know nothing about the Carlsbad CA market, but I have trouble imagining that your insurance and taxes are only $1200 and $2500 per year respectively. But with my numbers below, that is the only way to arrive at a PITI of $1675 with 25% down on the loan.

I see $2100/month in rent against the following expenses:

Taxes $225.00

Insurance $100.00

Vacancy $168.00

Total Expenses $2,201.76

And this is why you have to know the market when you are investing in an unfamiliar market. Prop 13 is the reason the taxes are low and the assessed value will increase a maximum of 2% a year. Plenty of multi million dollar houses pay less than $1000 annually. Pretty good deal when you can also probably count on rent growth of 5-8% and appreciation of 7-11%. Plus generally vacancy is much lower than flyover states.

This is why investors are willing to purchase properties that don't initially cash flow.