Originally posted by @Mike D'Arrigo:
@Account Closed
I've lived in CA all my life and love this state which is why I choose to live here. As a lifetime resident, I have seen the enormous appreciation gains here but I have also seen 3 major declines. The decline from 2008 recovered much quicker than the previous 2 so we have been very fortunate. I saw people who bragged about only having a $200 or $300/mth negative because of course it was going to appreciate. People who bought at the height of the market in 2006 are not bragging about their "small negative" now. In spite of the heated market, values are still not back to their 2006 highs in most parts of the state. I'm not sure what crystal ball you have that tells you what the appreciation rate is going to be. I don't think anybody predicted that the market would turn around as fast as it did and see 20% appreciation here for the last couple of years. Conversely, I don't think many can predict what the appreciation rate will be this year or 10 years out. And yes, you are right. No one can control rents and expenses which is why believe in reducing the number of variables outside of our control and appreciation is the biggest one. If we tried to eliminate all variables no one would do anything.
OK, not sure if you're just funning me but you can forget the basic business or econ course and just do a basic math. I gather you're a radio broadcaster and starting to REI but even in broadcasting I thought basic math was important. "We'll be back in 2 and 2!".
Real estate has cycles. In CA it's generally 4 steps up one step back. Remember it was in 1978 that PROP 13 was passed because of YOY fantastic appreciation. And it's been that way ever since.
Anyone can calculate an appreciation rate with basic math skills and information on sales over the last 30-40 years. It ain't rocket surgery! And it's not all crystal ball mystic. What potion are you selling? ha ha
I agree that it may be harder to calculate in Podunk when the sewing machine factory went out of business and it was 20 years later that Toyota came in and built. But when you calculate the rate OVER TIME you identify the reasons for the spikes and the declines and make an educated guess on the future.
I PREDICTED on the WEB the recovery in California when EVERYONE was posting about 15-20 years to recovery. ha ha
I've seen the people that were jetted off to NO IN TN to 1031 their Honolulu properties in the mid 2000's that then saw tremendous value drops while Honolulu held pretty firm. I've talked to the CA people that considered/some went for it Vegas properties because "GEEZ, they're half priced" only to regret the constant long distance problems.
I'm not saying that you can't do good out of state or that CA HI are the only places to invest but that the basic principles work in both areas. Friends don't let friends buy crap! Every town has a wrong side of the tracks.
Math, the whole math and nothing but the math works.