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All Forum Posts by: Maggie Tasseron

Maggie Tasseron has started 0 posts and replied 215 times.

Post: Found the remains of the previous owners wife at one of my flips

Maggie TasseronPosted
  • Investor
  • Palm Desert, CA
  • Posts 215
  • Votes 63
Originally posted by @J Scott:
Originally posted by @Parker Detweiler:

@Steve Babiak

If I kept all the sentimental crap we found I would have to build a 500,000 square foot warehouse to store it all. Shoot even when the law requires me to keep something I still store the state max storage fee before I sell it at public auction. Glad someone understands what it is doesn't matter and that it isn't my problem under any circumstance. 

Understood... This is probably the reason people always tell me that I'm too nice... 

 To me, the term "too nice" only applies when someone is a doormat. It bothers me to hear Babiak refer to this as crap. Anything could have happened to the previous owner since the sale and it's quite true that these remains might just mean the world to someone else. You just keep on being nice and I'll appreciate the fact that there's a nice guy out there!

Post: Found the remains of the previous owners wife at one of my flips

Maggie TasseronPosted
  • Investor
  • Palm Desert, CA
  • Posts 215
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Originally posted by @Teresa F.:

So glad to read this is about cremated remains.  I thought someone found a body!  Teresa

 Me too! Voted up...

Post: Found the remains of the previous owners wife at one of my flips

Maggie TasseronPosted
  • Investor
  • Palm Desert, CA
  • Posts 215
  • Votes 63
Originally posted by @J Scott:

Perhaps... But maybe at the next family reunion, the kids say, "Hey dad, what ever happened to mom's remains?"

Something like this could be tremendously important to someone outside the previous owner and they haven't yet realized it was left. 

I wouldn't be arguing if it were a class ring or a photo album, but I see this as being different given the additional people who might have a vested interest outside the previous owner. 

I can certainly understand how others might disagree though... Just my take... 

 Hey J Scott: I'm glad to see someone here has a heart and a conscience. I can't believe some of the cold comments! Sometimes you just have to go above and beyond and hope someone would do the same for you.

Post: Found the remains of the previous owners wife at one of my flips

Maggie TasseronPosted
  • Investor
  • Palm Desert, CA
  • Posts 215
  • Votes 63
Originally posted by @Jason Pritchard:

Sooooooo.....I just recently purchased a house that I am in the process of flipping and today one of the guys in my contractors crew found the cremated remains of the previous owners wife in the garage.  I have tried numerous times to get ahold of the seller so we can arrange shipment of the remains but at this point I have not had any luck getting ahold of him.  Obviously I'm not going to just throw the remains away but I not really sure what to do if I can't get in touch with the seller.  If anyone has run across this issue before and can give me some advice I would appreicate it.   

 Jason: It's hard to believe you can't track down the person you just bought this property from; his name must be all over the docs and at least, the seller's agent must know how to reach him. That being impossible, I would call the coroner's office and get their advice; they are usually not in favor of human remains, even ashes, being disposed of casually. I'm not the most sentimental person either, but this was once a human being and I couldn't live with myself if I didn't at least try to do the right thing.

Post: Tenant that won't leave

Maggie TasseronPosted
  • Investor
  • Palm Desert, CA
  • Posts 215
  • Votes 63
Originally posted by @Mindy Jensen:
Originally posted by @Maggie Tasseron:
Originally posted by @Dennis Olson:
Originally posted by @Anthony Gayden:

Have you ever had a tenant that just won't leave? I'm already down 3 months rent, the tenant has been officially ordered evicted, and they won't leave without the sheriff going down there with my PM and physically removing them. 

I can't believe with all of this advanced warning, they just won't give it up and move on. 

 Offer them a small payment to be out within specified time or have the sheriff evict them

 Sorry, Dennis, but I'm not in favor of offering people like this a dime; that only encourages them to keep doing this to other landlords. I would much rather pay the price of the eviction, including the Sheriff if necessary, than pay a bad tenant.

 Maggie,

When I first heard the concept "Cash for Keys" I had this same thought. "Why would I reward such behavior?"

The reason you offer the cash for keys is to give them an incentive to not destroy the property. Typical cash for keys also states they return the property to you in good condition. Better to pay $500 cash for keys than $2,000 in replaced appliances and lots of drywall repair, plus lost rent, etc. 

I hate the thought of paying a bad tenant, but I also hate the thought of spending money on repairing the unit they destroyed. If you can get it back in decent shape, better than months of lost rent during a rehab...

 Hi Mindy: I do see your point; I'm just a stubborn old cuss and when I dig in my heels, there's no changing my mind. I can't ignore the fact that cash for keys sets a bad precedent. I've already been victimized one time by my insurance company paying a settlement to an ex-tenant of mine when I had proof positive IN WRITING that they had no case and that has made me even more militant about not bowing to extortionists. There are pros and cons both ways, it's just an individual decision we need to make for ourselves. I do cling to the fact that an eviction stays on their credit report as well as court records for seven years, and anticipate the day when creatures like this finally realize that and stop messing up their own credit to a point where they can no longer find a decent place to live. I always encourage landlords to sue when it's warranted but there are still a lot of them who will not do so.

Post: Tenant that won't leave

Maggie TasseronPosted
  • Investor
  • Palm Desert, CA
  • Posts 215
  • Votes 63
Originally posted by @Brian Spitz:

In Houston we try to offer cash for keys a lot but some people are just stubborn and want to punish you by making you go to every effort to get them out. Worse yet are the people who know hot to manipulate the system and can get more and more time in your house for free by dragging you all the way to trial. It's really important to have good legal representation though because I've seen the tenants win sometimes when they really don't deserve it. We have a woman now who moved into her exhusband's house, then claimed she was now his common law wife, that she was entitled to the house and half his 401K and we have been working since november of 2014 to get her out. The court is now hearing a case to determine if they need to get a second legal divorce or not. All of this after we made it through he eviction proceedings and won - still no victory until the occupant is gone. Best of luck with it! All you can do sometimes is screen tenants to the best of your ability and hope they turn out to be good people. 

 Hi Brian: I'm not clear on this; is it a house you own and is her ex-husband still living there or is he an ex-tenant? Hope you have time to explain a bit more as this sounds like a very unusual case.

Post: Tenant that won't leave

Maggie TasseronPosted
  • Investor
  • Palm Desert, CA
  • Posts 215
  • Votes 63
Originally posted by @Anthony Gayden:
Originally posted by @John Thedford:
Originally posted by @Anthony Gayden:

Have you ever had a tenant that just won't leave? I'm already down 3 months rent, the tenant has been officially ordered evicted, and they won't leave without the sheriff going down there with my PM and physically removing them. 

I can't believe with all of this advanced warning, they just won't give it up and move on. 

Free rent is hard to beat. Spend the money now and put a stop to it. You are letting lost rent (more than likely far more than cost of cure)  exceed the costs of remedy.

 The money has already been spent. I just can't believe that someone would let it go that far. What a ridiculous waste. They had more than enough chance to leave on their own, now they get to be literally dragged away. What idiocy. 

 Once you realize that there ARE some tenants out there who are simply idiots, they will get easier to deal with. You just need to learn to think like an idiot when it's necessary and to not make the mistake of dealing with them as though they have an iota of common sense and decency. 

Post: Tenant that won't leave

Maggie TasseronPosted
  • Investor
  • Palm Desert, CA
  • Posts 215
  • Votes 63
Originally posted by @Dick Rosen:

@Steve Babiak & @Anthony Gayden

I really appreciate the opportunity to explain this situation. I think I have plugged the gap in my process to prevent it from happening again but I am certainly open to any other ideas on where my system broke down. Thank you,

 Hey again Dick: I do think you've plugged the gap and I agree that Mr. Gayden is probably more frustrated with the situation than with you. He's a fairly new investor and I think this is the first time he's experienced something like this. He will learn to take it in his stride and hopefully he can see how this situation got dragged out some so you can both move on.

Post: Tenant that won't leave

Maggie TasseronPosted
  • Investor
  • Palm Desert, CA
  • Posts 215
  • Votes 63
Originally posted by @Dick Rosen:

First, thanks for the mention @Steve Babiak!

The Court gave the tenant 7 days to move out from eviction day and the Writ is not available until then, the Writ was in fact ordered the day that it was available. At that point the Sheriff/Constable has up to 7 days to schedule the move out, I am currently awaiting that phone call from the Sheriff/Constable so that I can meet them there, they will have the tenant moved out and I will change the locks. That's where it stands today.

Where my system did admittedly break down was due to a new software platform which enabled me to accept ACH payments from my tenants effective July 1st. I was not aware that an ACH payment can bounce NSF just like a check! So the tenant made the July payment by ACH, it bounced... about a week later she made another ACH payment including the late fees and NSF fee so I believed in good faith that it was going to work out. Keep in mind that this has been a good tenant for one year with no issues. Then I recieved another NSF notice and I sent the the Pay or Quit. Before the 5 days expired she made another ACH payment, now for the complete 2 months due plus fees. I sent the Pay or Quit notice again and shut off her access to ACH payments. The eviction court date was on the 1st of September which means we just lost another month.

My mistake was in accepting more ACH payments! Once that first one bounces, shut it off and required certified funds, that's my new standard. I understand Mr. Gayden's frustration but I believe he understands that I am addressing the issue as best I can and I think he's frustrated with the entire situation and not necessarily his PM... me... I hope.  

 Hey Dick: Thanks for posting your side of the story. It isn't difficult for a situation like this to drag out some for reasons like the one you stated with the ACH. I usually have my tenants deposit rent into my bank account and whenever I issue a 3-Day Notice I close that account, because if they deposit as much as $1 after the 3-Day, I would have to start over again. There can still be a problem with direct deposits like this, as they can deposit a bad check into my account, but so far I've never had that happen. There are so many new systems for having tenants pay rent through banks and we will all live and learn as time goes on; BP is such a great resource for sharing info!

PS: It's easier to get fooled when a tenant has been good for as long as a year; I just had tenants of 5 1/2 years' duration who never gave me a problem turn against me completely when I told them I was selling the house in order to move across country; long story, different forum, but it got very nasty. I never would have thought after all those years that they would treat me the way they did!

Post: Tenant that won't leave

Maggie TasseronPosted
  • Investor
  • Palm Desert, CA
  • Posts 215
  • Votes 63
Originally posted by @Anthony Gayden:

I am stressed beyond belief right now. While this mess is happening, I am in the middle of starting a new job and moving across the country. I have so much going on right now, and the last thing I need is more drama. 

PM sent me an email saying he was filing a writ for the sheriff to put her out. 

So now on top of lost rent and legal fees, I wouldn't doubt spending quite a bit on repairs to my unit. I have huge savings, but I hate seeing thousands upon thousands that I could be investing going toward BS.

The only bright side to this is that since I am moving across country, I can rent out the unit where I was living in my other 4 plex, It will finally cash flow a decent amount once fully occupied.

 Hey Anthony: Unfortunately, BS is almost a guaranteed part of this business. Most tenants are good, but when you get a bad one like this, you need to deal with them without an ounce of sympathy or patience. People like that often are repeat offenders and bank on the possibility that they're dealing with landlords who will let them drag it out some; they know they will have to move in the end, but will keep you on the hook for as long as they can. Evicting them will put a black mark on not only their court records but also their credit report and will alert other landlords, so eventually these losers will have a very hard time finding a decent place to live; let that be your comfort! Try not to stress; I've been doing this for almost 40 years and it's just a nasty side of the business, but it will end and if it happens again, you will be better prepared for it. Best of luck with everything!