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All Forum Posts by: Haley Powell

Haley Powell has started 6 posts and replied 84 times.

Post: How soon is too soon to invest out of state?

Haley PowellPosted
  • New to Real Estate
  • Dallas, TX
  • Posts 86
  • Votes 41
Originally posted by @Guy Yoes:

@Haley Powell

First off   Boomer Sooner!

Wife and I both Sooners. 

@Charlotte Dunford

Excellent points.

There seems to be a lot of OOS mania about Oklahoma right now. Having lived in OK for most of my life and owning properties in Tulsa area, OKC area and Enid, I would not buy the hype at this time. 1 year ago this month i moved to Springfield Mo. and sold all my properties in Tulsa. Why? Because I could no longer buy rental property and make money.

The rentals i did have cash flowed just fine.  In 2015 I bought a 3 bd/2 bath/2 car garage/1320 sqft all brick for 78K. It rented for $900.00. Paid cash and it made a lot of money. So why did I sell it? 

The house next door to my rental (same floor plan/same year/same condition) sold for 128,500 in July of last year. I sold mine in October for 123.900.00. I owned that property for 4 years (cash flowed 650 monthly) and walked away with 30K+ in profits. Good for me. I 1031x it into 2 duplexes in Branson.

Not so good for the buyers of the two houses in Glenpool (Tulsa area). They were asking 1200 a month rent for the properties. Average rents were 850-1050 in that area. House next to my rental was empty for 3 months. I don't know when it ever rented or for how much.

I understand people on the west coast or in Colorado, New York start to salivate at the low cost of housing in Oklahoma. But what they don't know until later is this:

There is no housing shortage in Oklahoma cities (plenty of houses to buy or rent.)

People currently paying low rents are not going to move into houses with higher rents. 

Wages in Oklahoma have remained flat or very low growth and will continue to do so.

Landlords in Oklahoma are more than eager to sell you their rentals because they know in 12-18 months they can buy them back at discounted prices. 

How do I know this? Because I and many other REI in Oklahoma have and are doing it.

Haley-

Save your money! If your parents are paying for your college, (Thank them) save your money and seek guidance from a trusted family friend who is a RE professional. Be patient and learn. The time to buy is when everyone is selling, not when everyone is buying.

Best wishes from one sooner to another.

Great points Guy! You're definitely spot on about there being no lack of choices, new developments are going up down here between Moore and Norman and no doubt they're expanding everywhere. I've solidified my focus to finding an affordable property in Dallas to house hack, renting there would be a significant drain on my income. I'm worried that it will be difficult to save up for a down payment if I'm shelling out $900-$1100 a month for rent. 

Luckily for me, I'm coming out of school with a bachelor's and a master's debt free with a job in hand thanks to my parents' forethought and generosity. I have always been a saver and I feel a responsibility to make the most of the head start my parents have given me. However, I don't have any family friends who are familiar with RE so I am trying to learn as much as I can to use my money wisely.

Thanks for the comment and boomer sooner!

Post: Getting Started: Airbnb vs Rental

Haley PowellPosted
  • New to Real Estate
  • Dallas, TX
  • Posts 86
  • Votes 41

Hi Chase! I am still new to investing and I have been wondering about Airbnb myself as I will also be dealing with the Dallas market come June. 

Just two thoughts: have you factored in cleaning fees, furniture, and supplies like shampoo, hand soap, snacks, etc. for your Airbnb budget? 

Do you have an alternate exit strategy that cash flows besides Airbnb? If it won't work as a long term rental and you decide to pursue Airbnb, do you have another out just in case like flipping it? You might also consider the long term furnished niche. It's a small piece of the market but if you are near a hospital or university you may be able to make a go of marketing to those looking for an extended stay in a furnished property. Apparently some people get their housing costs covered by a stipend on travel and can spend a little more to avoid a hotel and this might be workable if you're in the right location. Also, you'd have to furnish the place anyway for short term Airbnb, so furniture would be a sunk cost.

Post: Newbie looking for learning resources

Haley PowellPosted
  • New to Real Estate
  • Dallas, TX
  • Posts 86
  • Votes 41

Hey Bobby! I'm a grad student at OU so it's pretty cool to see you repping OU in your profile picture!

For resources, I'd really recommend starting with the BP Money podcast to learn how to get your funds right. There's tons of strategies and educational interviews in there (they had Craig Curelop on) that can help you streamline your finances in preparation for investing. 

The Real Estate podcast is also great but rather than listening to every episode (like I do with the Money podcast) I find it more helpful to pick through the titles beginning with the most recent shows. The RE podcast started around 2013 so the market was way different back then and they used to focus more intensely on flipping and wholesaling, the later ones are more suited to where we are starting.

I'd also recommend Set for Life by Scott Trench, he's a host on the Money podcast and sets up a really approachable way to get into REI via househacking, though I don't know if it's similar to Craig's book.

Hope this helps, and feel free to PM me if you have any questions I can help you with!

Post: What to expect when talking to a lender or mortgage broker

Haley PowellPosted
  • New to Real Estate
  • Dallas, TX
  • Posts 86
  • Votes 41
Originally posted by @Eudith Vacio:

@Haley Powell I would suggest going with a broker as @Yonah Weiss mentioned they offer a broad range of products rather than a mortgage lender that is tied to their banks products. I would run through 2-3 different lenders, and suggest applying to all within a 2 week timeframe as they will run a hard inquiry on your credit to apply for the loan. If you apply within a 2-3 week timeframe it only counts as 1 hit towards your credit score. Best of luck!

Thank you Eudith! I hadn't thought about the impact of the credit check, thank you for telling me! 

Post: What to expect when talking to a lender or mortgage broker

Haley PowellPosted
  • New to Real Estate
  • Dallas, TX
  • Posts 86
  • Votes 41
Originally posted by @Theresa Harris:

They are going to want to know your income, debts and expenses to get a better idea of how much you can afford.  They will also want to know how much you have for a down payment.

I think the main hangup for me is that I haven't started the job yet, I graduate in May and begin in June, so I may need to wait until I have a couple pay stubs in hand. Thank you for your comment!

Post: What to expect when talking to a lender or mortgage broker

Haley PowellPosted
  • New to Real Estate
  • Dallas, TX
  • Posts 86
  • Votes 41
Originally posted by @Sean Majewski:

Any good lender will walk you thru the process and answer your questions so you have a good understanding of the process. Work with one you feel comfortable with, who's available/responsive to your inquiries, and local to you - so you can talk to them face to face [whether you do or not is up to you, but if needed, I like to have the option as they're typically better at getting your property to close - in my real estate agent experience]. A few tips:

- Make sure when you're comparing quotes that the loan type, rate, down payment, estimated property taxes + insurance, etc are the same. Then you can see any differences in fees the lender is charging, and clarify what they're for.

- The lender will need several documents from you to flesh out your loan options - Start a folder with all of the required documents you'll need to apply [pay stubs, bank statements, tax returns/W2s etc, so you have them in one place if you apply with more than one lender]

It seems like at the moment, conventional loan products are competitive with FHA ones and avoid some possible hang ups of FHA loans, if you can go that route. A good lender should be able to give you some different options and determine what's best for your situation.

Thank you for the tips Sean! I will keep those in mind going forward. I probably need to do more research on loans beyond the FHA loan.

Post: Favorite Instagram for rental painting inspiration

Haley PowellPosted
  • New to Real Estate
  • Dallas, TX
  • Posts 86
  • Votes 41

I don't have any Instagram pages but Pinterest is always a great place to look! There's unending inspiration there and you can get a feel for what people are looking at/for. Also, (this is a personal opinion) be careful diving in head first on gray, it's very trendy right now and that means that when the trend fades, it is a surefire way to date when it was redone. Think of chevron, teal, and shag carpet. That is one downfall of Pinterest: it is very trendy. If you can wade through and find some classic stuff that will survive shifting trends you should be in good shape!

Post: Determined New Investor, Dallas

Haley PowellPosted
  • New to Real Estate
  • Dallas, TX
  • Posts 86
  • Votes 41

@Alyssa Dyer I will look into him! I have a list of people to contact but I'm uncertain of what to look for or what to ask. I'm worried someone will take me for a ride if I'm blatantly ignorant.

Post: What to expect when talking to a lender or mortgage broker

Haley PowellPosted
  • New to Real Estate
  • Dallas, TX
  • Posts 86
  • Votes 41
Originally posted by @Yonah Weiss:

@Haley Powell good luck on your upcoming transition.

First of all there are hundreds of lenders and loan products out there, and not every lender offers everything (for example FHA loans like you are interested in) Whereas, a mortgage broker will work with many lenders, and many products, and a good one will be able to find you the best rates and terms that are available. Brokers usually charge an origination fee (typically 1% of the loan amount).

I would call or email a few of them, and as you say, outline your situation, and see who can, not only offer you the best terms, but also educate you, and walk you through the process of buying your first property.

Thank you for your advice Yonah, it is very helpful! I had become so focused on finding a property that suited my situation that I had completely neglected researching financing options.

Post: What to expect when talking to a lender or mortgage broker

Haley PowellPosted
  • New to Real Estate
  • Dallas, TX
  • Posts 86
  • Votes 41

I am one of the many who are looking to get a househack going in Dallas when I move there in May, and a natural part of that is lenders. An agent has (very helpfully) sent me a list of lenders/brokers (are those the same thing?) that I can call to talk to regarding a mortgage. My concern is that I have no idea what to expect. What kind of information should I have prepared? What will they ask, what should I ask? I've read that you should compare the offerings of each and go from there, but I'm unsure of how to get there. I hope to use an FHA loan on this property, so I assume I'd need to find out if they even offer that and what interest rates I'd be working with. Do I just call or email them outlining my situation and go from there? I am clearly just getting started and I don't want to come across as ignorant or waste their time explaining things I should already know. Any advice is appreciated!