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All Forum Posts by: Greg Myroth

Greg Myroth has started 10 posts and replied 39 times.

Post: Looking for Real Estate Attorney In Illinois

Greg Myroth
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  • East Peoria, IL
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I am looking for an investor friendly Illinois real estate attorney to review a purchase contract for my first of what I hope to be many rental property purchases. I am buying a SFH in Peoria Heights in as-is condition directly from the owner. The owner is using what appears to be a standard contract but I would still like to find an attorney to protect my interest in the transaction. Thanks in advance for your recommendations or suggestions.

Post: Looking for Help Analyzing Potential Mobile Home Park Deal

Greg Myroth
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  • East Peoria, IL
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Originally posted by @Don Konipol:

After subtracting depreciation on the units themselves, which on mobile homes is a very real expense, I don't see much cash flow.  Without knowing the age and condition of the mobile homes, it's tough to guess, but lets assume the units are 5 years old, and have a useful life of another 10 years.  After 10 years they will need to be replaced with newer homes, say 5 years old. These can be obtained for say $25,000 each , or $400,000.  So $400,000 divided by the 10 years remaining life is $40,000 per year.  Subtracting $40K from the other expenses leaves no cash flow/profit.   So unless the land is what we used to call a "tax payer", i.e. being held as a speculation for a large increase in value, I don't see this deal as being very good.

Income from the rental of developed spaces is preferable to income from renting spaces and homes, for the following reasons

1. Land doesn't depreciate, mobile homes do.  So $100,000 income from renting space is a lot different than $100,000 income from renting space plus homes

2. People take better care of property they own than property they lease.

3. Maintenance and repair expenses associated with space rental is significantly less than maintenance and repair associated with space plus home.

4. The quality of tenants who own their mobile home and lease space is higher than those that lease the home and space

5. Parks which rent only the space have much lower turnover and vacancy expenses since if you own the home as a space tenant it's costly to move the mobile home to another park.

There are a hybrid type park which will sell the mobile home to a tenant that wants to be an owner.  These types of parks could be very profitable.  Unfortunately, the Dodd Frank Act, as well as the regulations of the Consumer Finance Protection Bureau, have made it very difficult for these type hybrid parks to operate anywhere near as profitably.  I used to finance all three type mobile home parks, now I only finance the parks that own no mobile homes themselves.

 Don,  

Great points and thanks so much for responding.  So if one finds a park that can cash flow with reasonable lot rents is there anything stopping us for trying to sell trailers to current tenants.  For example lot rent is $250 and you pay $200 toward the trailer for 2 years and then you own it.  Is that is viable plan to get a park to land rent only arrangement?

Thanks,

Greg

Post: Need Kitchen Cabinet Installer

Greg Myroth
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  • East Peoria, IL
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Julie

I have someone new I am using next month. If that works out I will get you his contact info. If you find someone good in our area for this or any other related work please let me know as I am also looking for good handymen. I am in Peoria.  

Post: Looking for Help Analyzing Potential Mobile Home Park Deal

Greg Myroth
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  • East Peoria, IL
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Jefferson Lily's podcast on Mobile Home Park Investing got me excited about potentially investing in a park. I have been actively reading all I can and searching for deals. I am curious what experienced park investors think about this potential opportunity. 17 homes. 16 currently rented. Many long-term tenants. The combined trailer and lot rental is currently at approximately $400/mo. Monthly income of $6795. Expenses: Water $600/mo. Garbage $350/mo. Insurance $350/mo. Common area lighting $75/mo. Taxes $7100/yr. Estimated maintenance assumed $500/mo, Management assumed $500/mo. Capex assumed $400/mo. City water and City sewer. Homes are all currently well maintained and all our seller owned (none are owned by tenants) which I understand is not preferred. Property is in a good part of the City. Also has several garages onsite that are not currently rented. There is extra 1 ac available for future development possibly self storage units. Asking price is just under $300,000. What are your thoughts on the price and the viability of this deal? What value do you assume for trailers and lots? Looking forward to everyone's feedback on this one! Thanks in advance!

Post: Online Services for Property Management Such as Rentalutions?

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I am curious if anyone has any experience with online services for property management such as Rentalutions?  What other options are worth considering?  The Rentaluation website makes it sound like a potential time saver with the automatic listings, tenant screening, online lease and online rent management options.  Anyone know if the leases are fully customizable?   

Post: Is this a good first investment property?

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  • East Peoria, IL
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@Lauren Baker @Matthew Brill @Wilson Churchill

Matthew, I think you are right it sort of does fall into "lipstick on a pig" in some respects.  I don't ever see the house greatly appreciating although the area has some potential long-term (but that's pure speculation). I do feel like the purchase at 75% or less of current retail would give me some equity and overall there isn't a lot of downside to the property or the area in my opinion.  I think at worse it is a long term stable area with limited appreciation but I don't expect depreciation.   I totally get what Ben Leybovich is saying and I tend to agree particularly as it related to depreciating C class neighborhoods which this certainly is near. I am hoping with good tenant screening and a good solid home I can minimize those "lipstick on pig" issues and tenant hassles that go along with them.   

Lauren, that is a great idea and that is why I feel like this property is a good starting point for me. Low initial investment that I can make some minor improvements to and rent without feeling like I have a ton of money tied up into it.

Wilson, Yes the taxes are really high.  They went from $400 per year to $1200 per year. I am assuming because of an owner homestead exemption and senior exemption both of which I don't totally understand yet.   

Post: Is this a good first investment property?

Greg Myroth
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Thanks all. I appreciate the feedback. The cash on cash ROI is an estimate from the Bigger Pocket calculator so it not just a guess. But It is an estimate at best.

Post: Is this a good first investment property?

Greg Myroth
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I am a new real estate investor. I met a guy today that is closing out the estate of a family member. He has a 1 bedroom house near Peoria Heights, IL that he needs to get rid of. The home is very solid and just needs some minor painting for updating. Newer furnace, new central air, roof in good condition. Full basement that could be finished to add another bedroom. No garage. Small yard. Price will be at or under $30,000. I believe it will rent for $575-600 after painting some carpet replacement. Taxes are $1,200. I figured insurance at $35 per month based on my agent's estimate on a simpler property and vacancy, cap ex, repairs at 7% each or $40 per month. I included the same $40 per month for property management even though I will self manage at least until I can locate more properties. I recognize that is low but wanted a placeholder for management. I would pay cash for the property and estimate around 10% cash on cash ROI and cash flow around $275 per month. This seems like a low risk, safe first investment. I recognize that the property would be a little hard to sell at a later date but I think I am getting it $10,000 to $12,000 under current market value. I would be very interested in everyone's thoughts on if this is a logical starting point for a new investor interested in buy and hold investing? I have substantial investing experience in the stock market but have been shocked at how hard it has been to take that leap and buy my first investment property. Thanks in advance for your input. Greg

Post: Finding a Realtor in Peoria Illinois

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Charlie, Thanks. I tried that. Unfortunately they really don't have anyone with rental investing experience which is something I am looking for.  

Post: Finding a Realtor in Peoria Illinois

Greg Myroth
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I am a new real estate investor with fair amount of capital I am looking to reinvest into residential real estate in the Peoria and Washington area.  I had just started working with a young realtor who was doing a good job finding me properties but she is moving out of state next month.  I would like to find a new realtor in the Peoria area with experience in the rental business.  Looking forward to your suggestions. 

Thanks,

Greg