Hey all... following up here from when I commented several months back... I since joined Pace's mentorship and say emphatically... NO REGRETS WHATSOEVER. I'm not selling you anything by saying that. Whether you choose to join or not makes no difference to me, and if you do I get nothing for it. Just my own impressions here, for what it's worth. You're right to be skeptical and careful of mentorship programs from what I understand. But... there are some good ones too. Pace's is one of those for sure. There's soooo much benefit to joining that I'm not even sure where to start if I'm going to keep this post short. Pace himself, and his peeps go WAY ABOVE AND BEYOND what is expected in a mentorship. How many other mentors seriously enjoys calling your sellers for you and helping you close deals and not take a bite out of it himself? How many other mentors give you access to use not only their agreements, but also the use of their transaction coordinator? How many other mentors help get you networked to dispo your deals? How many mentors will let you tap his buyers? How many mentors do EVERYTHING they can to give you no excuses to fail? Pace wants you to get going, get your first deal, get another, then another, and grow your business. And he goes way beyond to take down any hurdles you have. He is a serious giver of his time. Gives so many hours each week to educate his students, answer questions, help close deals, make the mentorship better and better, and building a network of great investors with similar mindsets. I've been helped constantly by others in the group, as well as Pace himself. Example, I'm working on a probate deal (for a personal house for my family) and members from the subto crew volunteered to help me help the seller clean up the overgrown yard! They're helping me underwrite the deal, helping me be sure my comps are good, that I've thought of everything correctly and more! As for the education side of things. Pace puts so much into the program that outside of the initial course, it's overwhelming trying to keep up with all the seller calls he and his team do for us and record for our learning. He's paid to bring in the head of Fannie Mae/Freddie Mac to educate on important topics, he's brought in and paid for probate attorneys to educate us, CPA's, real estate attorneys, etc. For us newbies, he's pulling HUGE quality lists, skip tracing and giving them to us to market to, and people to help us turn resulting warm leads into deals. All this is way over and above what is a normal mentorship. That's just because it's who Pace is! So as for me, I have zero regrets! I never experienced any of the pressure some of you mentioned. I was quoted 2 price tiers that align with what you all have mentioned. The higher one gets you pushed into a faster deal producing pipeline is all. I was sold before I even called though so nobody had to close me... haha. I'm several months in now. Because of Pace's teaching modules, conversations, weekly zoom q&a, the awesome network of 'go-giver' people, and so much else that is part of the mentorship I have a solid understanding of how to structure deals, talk to sellers, build my business, and everything else needed to be successful in real estate investing. Wholesaling, creative finance, long-term buy and hold, flipping, and tons more! It's all part of what I've learned. I'm doing this virtually from overseas, while still working a full-time job, so my business development and pipeline is slow, but going. I'm seeing lots of other new students come in and start getting deals within weeks! And there are those who struggle too. And Pace and others move around them to find out where they need help and get in there and keep them going to get over whatever hurdle is keeping them. Oh and one more thing that stands out clearly about the group is that they operate not in a scarcity mindset, but in an abundance mindset. We're not competing against one another, but collaborating. Anyway, that's my 2 cents. If anyone ever wants to talk more about it, or about creative financing in general hit me up! Happy to talk!