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All Forum Posts by: Evan R.

Evan R. has started 1 posts and replied 118 times.

Post: Mortgage for a rural commercial property.

Evan R.Posted
  • Engineer
  • Oakland, CA
  • Posts 120
  • Votes 76

tl;dr rural, manufactured, commercial building with obscure zoning. what are potential buyers' mortgage options?

I'm a bit of a rookie dealing with a weird mortgage edge case. I've got a residential real estate agent, but she doesn't want to touch this because it's commercial.

Context

I inherited a commercial property, and I'm trying to find the highest and best use for it. I've found a potential commercial tenant, but it's not a done deal. They would take possession in about six months. In case they fall through, I'm considering selling the property.

I'm in a small outlying community in Mohave County, AZ. The closest town is Kingman. Given how small the town is, I'm not going to say the name. I'd also appreciate it if you don't guess. The real estate market is a 'thin market', not a lot of sellers, not a lot of buyers. There are about 1-2 transactions per year here.

The building

The main building on the property is a really nice modular office. Three private offices, a small kitchen, two ADA compliant half baths, and a large hall. Everyone who sees the office is surprised that it's a manufactured building. It's got stucco on the outside and dual pane windows. Inside there is wallpaper, tile floors, a sprinkler system, and fancy molding.

There are a couple of locals that have offered me cash, and those prices are very low. Initially, I thought that I could get the property FHA conforming
by adding a fridge and a shower. Then a buyer is paying less interest, and the property can command a higher price. But I'm discovering some roadblocks around manufactured buildings and zoning.

Assigned Commercial at Manufacturing

Here is a bit of trivia about manufactured buildings. When a house is manufactured, it's assigned to be residential or commercial at birth. Residential buildings can become commercial, but commercial buildings cannot become residential. Such are the rules at the Arizona state level. I am almost certain this building was assigned commercial at manufacturing.

It's not too hard to make the building habitable by adding a shower. The county has a rental registry for landlords. This requires an inspection, which this building would fail. The county levies a $150/day fine for unregistered landlords. From a landlord perspective, it's a massive liability to offer this building, so I'd rather not. But a handy buyer could add a shower themselves.

Zoning

Everyone is familiar with Residential and commercial/industrial zoning. We have a special class, 'A' for general zoning. When the county started doing zoning in 1976, outlying areas were 'A' zoned. 'A' zoning is the most permissive. You can do a fourplex, have a farm, build an airstrip, or have an office building. Very permissive. The lot size minimum is 5 acres, and my 4.5-acre property is technically non-conforming but compliant. I verified this with a level two zoning technician. The current zoning would allow adding a site build or manufactured home to the site, but that's a bit of a slog to get done.

Mortgages

As we know, people tend to buy based on a monthly payment, and lower interest rates mean a higher sale price. This is important because I have a few other properties in town, and I make my own comps. So I'd like to get a higher price, even if I need to pay more for it.

I went to a local bank to ask about a potential buyer getting a confirming mortgage, and they had never heard of 'A' zoning. They said I would need to get the zoning changed before I could get any kind of mortgage. The commercial mortgage broker confirmed the bank has no products for 'A' zoned properties. Changing the zoning would take about three months. Zoning changes happen quarterly, and I already missed the deadline. This would also mean the commercial tenant couldn't rent the building.

Carrying the Note

The town is fated to die, for local political reasons that I don't want to go into. So I'd rather not hold a note for a couple years, have to foreclose, and then have an even thinner market to sell into.

Moving the Building

Given the stucco and tile, it's too heavy to move, so I can't sell the building. The building was manufactured in the late 1990s. County records reveal the office has moved twice, which is kind of the limit of a 'mobile home'. The building needs a new shingle roof, and part of me thinks I should burn the office down. Then I can sell the property as bare land.

What kind of mortgage products would be available for this property that I'm working on?

Post: Hawaii Vacation Rental questions

Evan R.Posted
  • Engineer
  • Oakland, CA
  • Posts 120
  • Votes 76

Just so you're aware of how the Kauai market is performing on airbnb, I got you some numbers. There are 636 listings on airbnb. The average price per night is $240, and the vacancy rate is 23.9%. The vacancy rate is very low, and the price per night is very high. Both hallmarks of a good bet for vacation rentals.

Post: 6 month summer rental condo, Tampa, fl

Evan R.Posted
  • Engineer
  • Oakland, CA
  • Posts 120
  • Votes 76

You might be able to rent it short term though airbnb, or vrbo.

In general, don't do deals with family. 

Post: What to do with beautiful in-law suite?

Evan R.Posted
  • Engineer
  • Oakland, CA
  • Posts 120
  • Votes 76

On AirBnB, past hosts leave reviews for past guests. This ensures that you can get a sense of who's going to be living in your in-law unit. 

If you're not concerned about maximizing your profits, you can specify week long minimum stays, and set buffer days between guests. This ensures that you're not spending a ton of time changing the sheets, and cleaning.

Post: Probate Records in Stanislaus County CA

Evan R.Posted
  • Engineer
  • Oakland, CA
  • Posts 120
  • Votes 76

Hey Joe,

I tried posting a PDF with step by step directions to get probate leads from the county courts website. Unfortunately, it was taken down.

Here is a super high overview of the process:

  • Go here to access the Stanislaus County court document viewer.
  • In the "Search by File Date and Case Type" section, enter a date range no more than 7 days long, in the format MMDDYYY. For example, 01162015 01232015 will get you the last week of records. You're also going to want to select 'Probate' from the list.
  • The probates you're interested in start like, "EST OF LASTNAME, FIRSTNAME".
  • Click the number to the left of the name.
  • Under the section 'Party Information' you can see who the person responsible is, under 'PETITIONER'
  • The decedent is listed under 'DECEASED'
  • You can use propertyshark to see what the decedent owned in the county.

Here is a free lead I found using this method:

Estate of Arlene Rider

Case number: 

445656

Opened: 

Jan/06/2015

Person Responsible: 

Carol Stewart

Property in Probate:

Rider Larry & Rider Arlene J

1006 Tuolumne Blvd

Modesto, Stanislaus, CA

Post: New In Wonderful Gatlinburg Tn

Evan R.Posted
  • Engineer
  • Oakland, CA
  • Posts 120
  • Votes 76

What are your vacancy rates like over the year in Gatlinburg?

Post: Airbnb and an apparent drug raid

Evan R.Posted
  • Engineer
  • Oakland, CA
  • Posts 120
  • Votes 76

They said that 10 police descended on the place at 5am in the morning in some apparent drug raid. The police apparently showed them a picture of a white male who was supposedly staying at the house and wanted in relation to drugs.

I've never heard of such a thing where the people in the house were not arrested. 

Reading here about a small operation with a warrant in Miami, it looks like the police forced their way in though the locked back door. You should be able to check with your neighbors if they heard 10 police at 5am, and check to see if there was forceable entry. 

Sounds like a scam.

Post: New member Wilmington, NC

Evan R.Posted
  • Engineer
  • Oakland, CA
  • Posts 120
  • Votes 76

Welcome to BP, @Jean Wolfe 

Looking at the Wilmington area, there are 102 vacation rental listings on airbnb. The average price per night is $134.79, and the vacancy rate is 56.72%. As far as the nonurban, eastern seaboard goes, this is pretty good.

Post: House Hacking in Charleston, SC

Evan R.Posted
  • Engineer
  • Oakland, CA
  • Posts 120
  • Votes 76

Sorry to be late to the party. 

Looking at airbnb, there are 162 listings. The average price per night is $183.26, and the vacancy rate is 54.14%. For the non urban, eastern seaboard, thats pretty good. 

If you can share more details about your son's duplex, I can tell you more about how that unit would perform. 

Post: The impact of rising sea levels on coastal properties across the US

Evan R.Posted
  • Engineer
  • Oakland, CA
  • Posts 120
  • Votes 76

After Katrina, houses were build that would float in the event of flooding. The Float House

Buy a couple of those, and you're good to go.