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All Forum Posts by: Erin Spradlin

Erin Spradlin has started 43 posts and replied 342 times.

Post: Mid term rental type of insurance

Erin SpradlinPosted
  • Real Estate Consultant
  • Colorado Springs, CO
  • Posts 353
  • Votes 384
Quote from @Wes D.:

Hi Johnson, for our MTRs we use landlord insurance from Travelers. You can specify the coverage level for the dwelling, household furnishings, loss of use, liability, and medical payments to others. I purchased the policy through an insurance broker, Moody Insurance Worldwide (301 417-0001).

All the best,

Wes

@Johnson Best

 @Wes D. I use Travelers and had insurance on the landlord, dwelling and personal property level (because if the place is furnished by you, you have to have insurance on it) and they didn't cover anything. There are exceptions if the tenants damage the furniture, even thought it is your furniture. They also will not make you whole for any pet damage whatsoever. My guess is they aren't the exception to the rule, so since then I've been very diligent in my midterm rentals about asking for a large deposit (midterm rental deposits should be equal to one month's rent or more).

Post: Med Term Rental Advice??

Erin SpradlinPosted
  • Real Estate Consultant
  • Colorado Springs, CO
  • Posts 353
  • Votes 384

@Rosemary Earl @Bill Schrimpf - That's a great question. Most places are rentable but have a pricing or marketing issue. Is the first photo the kitchen or the outside? It should not be of the bedroom. Are you pet-friendly (this will knock out 50% of your midterm rental competition). Is your rental set to 30+ days on Airbnb?

Post: Hawaii mid term rentals

Erin SpradlinPosted
  • Real Estate Consultant
  • Colorado Springs, CO
  • Posts 353
  • Votes 384

@John Cruz - I would list on Airbnb, Zillow and Zillow. I removed Airbnb from this Google Trends search because it depressed all the other searches because it is most popular in Hawaii. Outside of Airbnb though, Trulia is the clear winner. Trulia is owned by Zillow and if you list on Zillow, it will go to Trulia. The nice thing about listing furnished rentals on long-term, unfurnished sites it that people convert really well on them. Good luck. 

Post: MTR help requested in Wilmington, NC!

Erin SpradlinPosted
  • Real Estate Consultant
  • Colorado Springs, CO
  • Posts 353
  • Votes 384

@Abigail VanLuvanee - I would recommend being on Airbnb and Zillow. Airbnb because it's for furnished rentals and Zillow because I've found people looking for unfurnished often convert quite fast when given a long-term furnished option. (Zillow tenants are also great because they tend to rent for longer periods of time.) I would avoid the niche sites that target a specific demographic because it limits your marketing and rental base. Hope that helps. 

Post: Medium term rental data

Erin SpradlinPosted
  • Real Estate Consultant
  • Colorado Springs, CO
  • Posts 353
  • Votes 384

I read somewhere that Mashvisor and Furnished Finder were going to combine data at some point to help support MTR listings. That said, there needs to be a filtering of rent by the room and midterm rentals because I think they are often conflated and the rental pricing data is very different for the two sources. I think Airbnb is your best bet for cobbling together MTR pricing. 

Post: Co-Host mid-term rental

Erin SpradlinPosted
  • Real Estate Consultant
  • Colorado Springs, CO
  • Posts 353
  • Votes 384

@Stacy Stilwater - I will DM you, but I do this for a handful of clients nationwide and have a youtube channel (BP won't let me share the link, but you can find me under my name on YouTube) that is strictly about midterm rental property management, midterm rental cohosting, midterm rental pricing, midterm rental strategy, Airbnb v. Furnished Finder, etc. 

Post: Success with niche sites? (Insurance, Traveling Nurse, CHBO)

Erin SpradlinPosted
  • Real Estate Consultant
  • Colorado Springs, CO
  • Posts 353
  • Votes 384

I am curious if anyone has had success getting midterm renters off of niche sites that cater specifically to a demographic. This would be if you've reached out to Corporate Housing by Owner, AYA, Vivian, anyone that caters to insurance claims? Do you think it is worth it to be on these niche sites? 

Post: changing STR to MTR

Erin SpradlinPosted
  • Real Estate Consultant
  • Colorado Springs, CO
  • Posts 353
  • Votes 384

@Clayton Silva @steve 

@Steve H.

Hey Clayton & Steve- Couple lots of thoughts on this. You may have already tried these, but if not, I've found these to be helpful for some of my midterm rental clients. 

Most places should rent, but the issue comes down to marketing and pricing the midterm rental. For marketing, best practices are:

+listed it on two sites, one of which is Airbnb and the other is a long-term unfurnished site like Zillow, Turbo Tenant or Avail (people convert well on those sites)
+Write the listing broad and avoid any preference for traveling nurses, medical professionals, insurance folks, etc. You want to have a solid listing on the platform with no preference for a tenant pool.
+Make sure the first photo is of the kitchen or the exterior. 
+Make sure the headline includes useful details (ex. free parking, dog-friendly, W/D in unit, 3 blocks to downtown) rather than generic words (ex. comfy, spacious, light-filled).
+Whether you are dog-friendly or no-dog lean into the preference because there are people looking for both types of units.
+For Airbnb, list at the beginning what your set up is (2 bed/2 bath), since the filters return everything that is 2 beds+ when someone puts in this filter. It sends everything rather than just the 2 bedroom properties. 

And, finally, drop your prices if no one is booking. Some money is better than no money. 

Post: Out of State Investing in Travel Nurse Rental Multifam

Erin SpradlinPosted
  • Real Estate Consultant
  • Colorado Springs, CO
  • Posts 353
  • Votes 384
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Quote from @Quiana Berry:

As a newbie I am facing analysis paralysis on where to start my midterm investing journey. In NYC starting a midterm rental business.

@Quiana Berry - I have a lot more success with MTRs on Airbnb and Zillow Rental Manager. Furnished Finder was more effective for me about 18 months ago, and has been less so since it became more popular. Also, there's a lot of confusion from the tenant side as far as who can book on Furnished Finder. So many people think that you have to be a nurse or a medical professional to be on Furnished Finder, but that's not true... However, that stereotype limits the tenant pool which limits your ability to fill your place. 


 Erin, you've really hit on one of FF's fatal flaws IMO. They are still branding themselves as a furnished rental website for "travel nurses and other traveling professionals" but they give travel nursing top billing throughout their website. It IS confusing for travelers and unnecessarily limiting. They announced last summer that for the first time ever searches from non-medical personnel exceeded that of medical travelers and yet they still haven't really pivoted. They're not doing themselves or their hosts any favors. That said, 100% of my guests have come from FF and all have been in the medical professions but that's because our area uses travel medical professionals pretty heavily. I'd suggest the OP widen the aperture. While MTRs have historically been associated with travel nurses, the market really is much larger than that. It sounds like Albany has many things going for it so there may be many reasons someone would travel there. FF is just one source and good for establishing a baseline of sorts, but I agree with you that it's going to be beneficial to market on other sites, including the OTAs.

 @Bonnie Low THIS. I feel like Furnished Finder could make some very basic changes that would help them and their landlord hosts a lot, but they don't do it. For this reason, I feel like they are falling behind a little bit. It's interesting that you have been getting 100% of your guests from them because that was true for me until about 18 months ago and now it's all Airbnb and Zillow. LOL. Wherever they come from, I don't care as long as they are responsible and pay the bills. 


 I don't konw if you're on many social media sites, but even on the FF FB page it is littered with guests AND hosts claiming FF is a scam! It all comes down to people not getting traction. Either guests who get no response from hosts or hosts who don't know how to use it and wonder why no one is booking their place. I even had a woman argue with me extensively because she was convinced that I worked for FF and that is why I was claiming I've had such success with it. For the love of Pete I could not convince her otherwise so I just gave up. But seriously, they have all of the elements there and it's just maddening that they don't do a better job with it. It particularly irks me because a) they have people wanting to use their site and b) I don't trust Airbnb's guest-forward policies so I refuse to list my MTRs there. The market needs alternatives to the OTAs and they're already set up and established - if they would just make some basic improvements it would help everyone!  Ok, rant over ; )

 @Bonnie Low Rant away. I have so many thoughts about Furnished Finder, and most of them have to do with the company needing some kind of re-organization. It's particularly ironic that we are saying this about them when you source all your clientele from them and I have written books singing their praises- and, yet, now both of us are on a popular, public midterm rental forum saying they do not do a good job, they are not helping their hosts, they are leaving money on the table. Wake up, Furnished Finder. 

Post: Property manager for medium term rentals

Erin SpradlinPosted
  • Real Estate Consultant
  • Colorado Springs, CO
  • Posts 353
  • Votes 384

@Boffill Yosleys Yeah, the typical property management experience does not work for midterm rentals. It's hard for the PM to make their costs if they can't charge half the first month's rent, and charging half of the first month's rent won't work for the tenant landlord if each rental is only 3 months long. For this reason, I coach a lot of my midterm rental consulting clients to learn how to do Airbnb and Zillow and embrace self-property management. You can always get a PM after that if you are not successful doing it on your own.