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All Forum Posts by: Erin Spradlin

Erin Spradlin has started 43 posts and replied 340 times.

Post: Midterm rental Property Managers

Erin SpradlinPosted
  • Real Estate Consultant
  • Colorado Springs, CO
  • Posts 351
  • Votes 379
Quote from @James Carlson:
Quote from @Ruben Helo:

Any midterm rental property managers? 

I think there are some medium-term PMs on here, not sure about Denver specifically. 

But as @Erin Spradlin argues a lot, MTR investors should try self-managing. (Heck, an hour of consulting on how to self-manage costs less than you'd pay a management company in the first month.)

It's not like STRs where turnover is every few days, where cleaners need scheduling all the time, etc. (And even then, I'd argue most of my Airbnb clients manage their own short-term rentals in Colorado as well, even with full-time jobs.)

 @Ruben Helo @James Carlson
Thanks for the mention, James. 

Ruben- I'm encouraging people to learn how to property manage their own long-term and medium term rentals. The reason I recommend self property management is because it is really not that hard and a lot of my consulting clients that are unhappy (or unbooked) have property management. Once they take off property management, they tend to find it's much easier, they are occupied for a longer period of time AND they save 8-12%. 

Post: Out of State Investing in Travel Nurse Rental Multifam

Erin SpradlinPosted
  • Real Estate Consultant
  • Colorado Springs, CO
  • Posts 351
  • Votes 379
Quote from @Travis Timmons:

@Erin Spradlin it's funny that you mention that, we're all Airbnb and Zillow for the last 18 months as well. Airbnb tenants also pay a higher price. I'm considering just killing the furnished finder account due to the $149 annual fee. It's not much, but it's been a waste for the last year or two.

 @Travis Timmons Yes, I actually was up for renewal and just let it expire for the same reason. It's not a lot of money, but after awhile, it begs the question: why am I paying for this? 

Post: Out of State Investing in Travel Nurse Rental Multifam

Erin SpradlinPosted
  • Real Estate Consultant
  • Colorado Springs, CO
  • Posts 351
  • Votes 379
Quote from @Quiana Berry:

As a newbie I am facing analysis paralysis on where to start my midterm investing journey. In NYC starting a midterm rental business.

@Quiana Berry - I have a lot more success with MTRs on Airbnb and Zillow Rental Manager. Furnished Finder was more effective for me about 18 months ago, and has been less so since it became more popular. Also, there's a lot of confusion from the tenant side as far as who can book on Furnished Finder. So many people think that you have to be a nurse or a medical professional to be on Furnished Finder, but that's not true... However, that stereotype limits the tenant pool which limits your ability to fill your place. 

Post: Property manager marketing on furnished finders

Erin SpradlinPosted
  • Real Estate Consultant
  • Colorado Springs, CO
  • Posts 351
  • Votes 379

@Thessa Washington - Furnished Finder is becoming less and less effective for midterm rentals. Many of my consulting clients complain that they get no hits and when they do get interest, the offers are far below the rate (like 50%). I am only on two siteS: Airbnb and Zillow Rental Manager, and we've stayed rented.

I think being flexible on your rental rate for midterm rentals and paying attention to MTR vacancy should be prioritized. 

Post: "Not So" Future Booking Requests

Erin SpradlinPosted
  • Real Estate Consultant
  • Colorado Springs, CO
  • Posts 351
  • Votes 379
Quote from @Kathy Kifer:
Quote from @Erin Spradlin:

@Kathy Kifer - I would add additional platforms: Airbnb and Zillow to get more traffic on your medium-term rental. We do not take tenants that want to rent more than two weeks out from our next availability date, unless they want to close the gap (money wise) between when they arrive and the two week threshold. This strategy has worked pretty well for us since 2017. 

As a new midterm host, I do think the biggest issue is vacancy and being mindful of that. Being on more platforms should help. 

 @Erin Spradlin Have you actually had guests that will pay to fill that gap even though they are not there yet? I thought about that, but was hesitant to say anything like that to a potential guest. 

 @Kathy Kifer - I have both had people happily pay this and also had others push back. I always present it as a business issue and me not wanting to carry that costs. Some people really respond and others do not. That said, a reasonable tenant should understand why you can't just keep it open for them. 

Post: Rookie Investor - Where To Start?

Erin SpradlinPosted
  • Real Estate Consultant
  • Colorado Springs, CO
  • Posts 351
  • Votes 379
Quote from @James Carlson:

@Atlas Blake

To me, if you have capital for fix-and-flips, you have capital to buy a house-hack property. 

I think there's too much glorification of the "creative" investment -- flipping, wholesaling, note-buying, etc. etc. -- when the simplest option is probably the best.

I tell my first-time homebuyers in Colorado to keep it simple. Buy a home with as many bedrooms as your budget will allow in a nice enough location and rent all the rooms. In a high-priced market like Denver and Colorado Springs here (or San Diego where you're at), there are plenty of people who find a whole apartment rent unattainable and will rent a room. 

Live in it for a year or two, move out, rent the remaining room you lived in, and buy a new place to repeat the process. (A multi-family, if you can afford it, achieves the same goal.)

My two cents at least. Good luck!

@James Carlson @Atlas Blake - Agree with James Carlson on this one. Keep it simple and keep it small for the first investment. Get your feet wet and then decide if you want to move into other projects or if you want to stick with the easier properties. 

Post: "Not So" Future Booking Requests

Erin SpradlinPosted
  • Real Estate Consultant
  • Colorado Springs, CO
  • Posts 351
  • Votes 379
Quote from @Account Closed:

I totally get your struggle. Since your unit has been empty since Feb 1 and you have someone wanting to book for a month starting April 6, it's a tough call. Booking one guest at a time is smart to avoid gaps, but you also need bookings. 

Since most nurses book 3 months with possible renewals, maybe consider booking the April stay but keep an eye out for any shorter-term bookings to fill the gap if needed. Being close to 2 new hospitals is a big plus, so hopefully, you'll get more bookings soon!

@Account Closed - I have had better success doing midterm/short-term hybrid seasonally versus intermixed. So, STRs during your hottest months and midterms during your less hot months, but not intermixing them. The reason for this is that you end up taking a short-term rental to pull in a few bucks and that ends up preventing someone that would have wanted the place longer. It usually works against you. 

Post: "Not So" Future Booking Requests

Erin SpradlinPosted
  • Real Estate Consultant
  • Colorado Springs, CO
  • Posts 351
  • Votes 379

@Kathy Kifer - I would add additional platforms: Airbnb and Zillow to get more traffic on your medium-term rental. We do not take tenants that want to rent more than two weeks out from our next availability date, unless they want to close the gap (money wise) between when they arrive and the two week threshold. This strategy has worked pretty well for us since 2017. 

As a new midterm host, I do think the biggest issue is vacancy and being mindful of that. Being on more platforms should help. 

Post: Travel nurse units - how often to send out cleaners?

Erin SpradlinPosted
  • Real Estate Consultant
  • Colorado Springs, CO
  • Posts 351
  • Votes 379
Quote from @Brandy White:

We always ask the guests what they prefer. Give them your options and allow them to decide what works for them. Some people don't want any while others want the most.

I have heard of some hosts requiring the cleaning, just to keep an eye on the property. You would include this in a lease agreement with your guest. 

 @Brandy White - I think this is the main reason people require cleaning. This feels silly to me because your midterm rental lease, or any lease for that matter, can allow for the landlord to have access. We can enter our units any time we want as long as its during business hours and we give them 24 hours notice. That said, we don't enter them all the time because we like our tenants/trust them, but we have that option. 

Post: rents going up

Erin SpradlinPosted
  • Real Estate Consultant
  • Colorado Springs, CO
  • Posts 351
  • Votes 379
Quote from @Nicole Heasley Beitenman:
Quote from @Erin Spradlin:

I also believe the nature of renting is changing. Specifically, I think midterm rentals / furnished rentals, are going to become the norm rather than the exception. I think we are already starting to see that shift, and that midterm rentals will grow in popularity not only with travelers but also with local tenants. If I had been more aware of/presented as an option a furnished rental when I was 20-30 years old, I definitely would have taken it. 

I'm going to play the devil's advocate--I think we're going to hit a ceiling. We saw the STR tidal wave peak, and now STR operators are dealing with higher levels of vacancy. I think we'll see the same with MTR's. They're the new trend so too many operators will dive in, they'll hit a peak, and then we'll see units revert back to LTR's, owner-occupied units, or maybe some entirely new model we haven't discovered yet. The traditional LTR is becoming less and less affordable for the general population. I don't see the average Jane being able to afford to live in a furnished rental as a traditional tenant. Either way, I think we're in for a wild ride!

@Nicole Heasley Beitenman - I appreciate this perspective and the pushback! Totally agree we are headed toward a wild ride... but, I still feel like there's a huge market for people that want furnished long-term rentals, aka midterm rentals, and so I think we have a long ways to go before we hit that cap. That said, we will see. After awhile, people, and tenants specifically, can only pay so much.