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All Forum Posts by: Erin Spradlin

Erin Spradlin has started 43 posts and replied 338 times.

Post: Out of State Investing in Travel Nurse Rental Multifam

Erin Spradlin
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Quote from @Quiana Berry:

As a newbie I am facing analysis paralysis on where to start my midterm investing journey. In NYC starting a midterm rental business.

@Quiana Berry - I have a lot more success with MTRs on Airbnb and Zillow Rental Manager. Furnished Finder was more effective for me about 18 months ago, and has been less so since it became more popular. Also, there's a lot of confusion from the tenant side as far as who can book on Furnished Finder. So many people think that you have to be a nurse or a medical professional to be on Furnished Finder, but that's not true... However, that stereotype limits the tenant pool which limits your ability to fill your place. 

Post: Property manager marketing on furnished finders

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@Thessa Washington - Furnished Finder is becoming less and less effective for midterm rentals. Many of my consulting clients complain that they get no hits and when they do get interest, the offers are far below the rate (like 50%). I am only on two siteS: Airbnb and Zillow Rental Manager, and we've stayed rented.

I think being flexible on your rental rate for midterm rentals and paying attention to MTR vacancy should be prioritized. 

Post: "Not So" Future Booking Requests

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Quote from @Kathy Kifer:
Quote from @Erin Spradlin:

@Kathy Kifer - I would add additional platforms: Airbnb and Zillow to get more traffic on your medium-term rental. We do not take tenants that want to rent more than two weeks out from our next availability date, unless they want to close the gap (money wise) between when they arrive and the two week threshold. This strategy has worked pretty well for us since 2017. 

As a new midterm host, I do think the biggest issue is vacancy and being mindful of that. Being on more platforms should help. 

 @Erin Spradlin Have you actually had guests that will pay to fill that gap even though they are not there yet? I thought about that, but was hesitant to say anything like that to a potential guest. 

 @Kathy Kifer - I have both had people happily pay this and also had others push back. I always present it as a business issue and me not wanting to carry that costs. Some people really respond and others do not. That said, a reasonable tenant should understand why you can't just keep it open for them. 

Post: Rookie Investor - Where To Start?

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Quote from @James Carlson:

@Atlas Blake

To me, if you have capital for fix-and-flips, you have capital to buy a house-hack property. 

I think there's too much glorification of the "creative" investment -- flipping, wholesaling, note-buying, etc. etc. -- when the simplest option is probably the best.

I tell my first-time homebuyers in Colorado to keep it simple. Buy a home with as many bedrooms as your budget will allow in a nice enough location and rent all the rooms. In a high-priced market like Denver and Colorado Springs here (or San Diego where you're at), there are plenty of people who find a whole apartment rent unattainable and will rent a room. 

Live in it for a year or two, move out, rent the remaining room you lived in, and buy a new place to repeat the process. (A multi-family, if you can afford it, achieves the same goal.)

My two cents at least. Good luck!

@James Carlson @Atlas Blake - Agree with James Carlson on this one. Keep it simple and keep it small for the first investment. Get your feet wet and then decide if you want to move into other projects or if you want to stick with the easier properties. 

Post: "Not So" Future Booking Requests

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Quote from @Account Closed:

I totally get your struggle. Since your unit has been empty since Feb 1 and you have someone wanting to book for a month starting April 6, it's a tough call. Booking one guest at a time is smart to avoid gaps, but you also need bookings. 

Since most nurses book 3 months with possible renewals, maybe consider booking the April stay but keep an eye out for any shorter-term bookings to fill the gap if needed. Being close to 2 new hospitals is a big plus, so hopefully, you'll get more bookings soon!

@Account Closed - I have had better success doing midterm/short-term hybrid seasonally versus intermixed. So, STRs during your hottest months and midterms during your less hot months, but not intermixing them. The reason for this is that you end up taking a short-term rental to pull in a few bucks and that ends up preventing someone that would have wanted the place longer. It usually works against you. 

Post: "Not So" Future Booking Requests

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@Kathy Kifer - I would add additional platforms: Airbnb and Zillow to get more traffic on your medium-term rental. We do not take tenants that want to rent more than two weeks out from our next availability date, unless they want to close the gap (money wise) between when they arrive and the two week threshold. This strategy has worked pretty well for us since 2017. 

As a new midterm host, I do think the biggest issue is vacancy and being mindful of that. Being on more platforms should help. 

Post: Travel nurse units - how often to send out cleaners?

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Quote from @Brandy White:

We always ask the guests what they prefer. Give them your options and allow them to decide what works for them. Some people don't want any while others want the most.

I have heard of some hosts requiring the cleaning, just to keep an eye on the property. You would include this in a lease agreement with your guest. 

 @Brandy White - I think this is the main reason people require cleaning. This feels silly to me because your midterm rental lease, or any lease for that matter, can allow for the landlord to have access. We can enter our units any time we want as long as its during business hours and we give them 24 hours notice. That said, we don't enter them all the time because we like our tenants/trust them, but we have that option. 

Post: rents going up

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Quote from @Nicole Heasley Beitenman:
Quote from @Erin Spradlin:

I also believe the nature of renting is changing. Specifically, I think midterm rentals / furnished rentals, are going to become the norm rather than the exception. I think we are already starting to see that shift, and that midterm rentals will grow in popularity not only with travelers but also with local tenants. If I had been more aware of/presented as an option a furnished rental when I was 20-30 years old, I definitely would have taken it. 

I'm going to play the devil's advocate--I think we're going to hit a ceiling. We saw the STR tidal wave peak, and now STR operators are dealing with higher levels of vacancy. I think we'll see the same with MTR's. They're the new trend so too many operators will dive in, they'll hit a peak, and then we'll see units revert back to LTR's, owner-occupied units, or maybe some entirely new model we haven't discovered yet. The traditional LTR is becoming less and less affordable for the general population. I don't see the average Jane being able to afford to live in a furnished rental as a traditional tenant. Either way, I think we're in for a wild ride!

@Nicole Heasley Beitenman - I appreciate this perspective and the pushback! Totally agree we are headed toward a wild ride... but, I still feel like there's a huge market for people that want furnished long-term rentals, aka midterm rentals, and so I think we have a long ways to go before we hit that cap. That said, we will see. After awhile, people, and tenants specifically, can only pay so much. 

Post: Atlanta STRs & MTRs for Film Industry

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Quote from @James Carlson:

@Grant Vincent

I think it's great that the film industry has a presence there. But -- rant incoming -- as @Erin Spradlin, resident midterm rental expert in our household would probably ask you, why limit your targeting to just one demographic? 

If Atlanta is like Denver or Colorado Springs where we have MTRs, then there is a wide need across various sectors for medium-term furnished rentals. Remote workers, recent divorcees needing a temporary spot, incoming residents unsure where they want to live, and yes, traveling nurses. 

I know there's some thought out there that you should cultivate direct relationships with insurance companies or construction companies, but  that's tying yourself to one industry when the platforms like Airbnb or Zillow are where a much wider pool of potential tenants are looking.

Long-winded rant aside, I bet Atlanta has a great market for MTRs (and probably STRs if the laws allow them).

LOL. Thank you @James Carlson

Post: Small bedroom furniture layout recommendation

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Quote from @Jessica DiPonziano:
Quote from @Colleen F.:

@Jessica DiPonziano  a murphy bed if you can do one. The  middle space would be open when the bed is up and you can put a desk in there too. They can use it for excercising when the bed is closed or with a small child they could add a crib. If you are going to use if for a family rental then bunks or a trundle. However no family is going to rent and put someone on a pullout sofa that isn't a temporary guest. Murphy is just a regular matress bed that folds up.  You likely won't find 3 travelers renting together most of the time.  I actually think you need to commit to a type of renter or the murphy gives you flexibility for a smaller family. just a jumble of thoughts on the topic.   It isn't as small as you think, just maybe awkward.


 Yea the awkwardness of the shape is what is killing me. I figured it wouldn't be 3 travelers renting together. I have seen traveling nurses with a partner and a child on some requests, or generally 2 parents and 2 children. It's a 3 bedroom 2 floor house so I figured individual renters is not what to go for. What kind of renter would you look for with a 3bed/1.5ba house?


Yeah, the shape restrictions are why I've moved away from murphy beds. It is hard to plan a room when you will always be pulling down or putting up a bed. That said, some friends of mine bought a murphy bed on Wayfair that becomes a desk when it is tucked away. I stayed at their place for a week and loved it.