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Post: Has anyone bought from a Turnkey Rental Company?

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Hello Adam!

This is actually a topic that has been covered here on the forums many times.  I'd be happy to share with you some of the other threads that you can review as well to jumpstart your assessment!  Feel free to reach out with any questions you may have as well!

https://www.biggerpockets.com/users/ericw536/references

https://www.biggerpockets.com/forums/92/topics/518583-feedback-on-renttoretirement-and-zach-lemaster

https://www.biggerpockets.com/forums/92/topics/765347-rent-to-retirement-review

https://www.biggerpockets.com/forums/850/topics/895660-my-first-investment-property-an-out-of-state-deal

https://www.biggerpockets.com/forums/92/topics/893621-rent-to-retirement-review?highlight_post=5222888&page=1#p5222888

https://www.biggerpockets.com/forums/311/topics/915728-experience-with-rent-to-retirement-turnkey?page=1#p5345200

https://www.biggerpockets.com/forums/92/topics/808479-rent-to-retirement-experiences


https://www.biggerpockets.com/forums/12/topics/533693-anyone-worked-with-renttoretirement-turnkey

https://www.biggerpockets.com/forums/92/topics/581730-rent-to-retirement-zach

https://www.biggerpockets.com/forums/48/topics/874096-reviews-on-r2r-and-nch?page=1&utm_source=Iterable&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=Transactional:%20topic_notification&utm_content=Transactional#p5123754

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Post: If you had 100k what would you do?

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@Moses Carrillo - great exercise here.  A lot of the answers depend on the location.  I have worked with tons of people who's first property purchase was an investment property - even while they are still renting.  Really depends on the market you are looking in - if you are in a high priced, high appreciating market you just want to run the numbers on the income coming in from rent.  Could still be a great investment even if it broke even / had little cash flow.  Having said that - I am a big fan of diversification as well - getting into multiple doors as quickly as possible - with 1 door, 1 vacancy = 100% of your cash flow - the same is not true if you have multiple doors (3-5, say).  When it comes to SF, MF, etc - I let the numbers do the talking - there are plenty of arguments for or against a particular strategy of course - but if cash flow is your main goal, then that is exactly what I would focus on.  Markets - there are an abundance to choose from of course.  Some of the highest cash on cash returns I am seeing right now are in the midwest and the sun belt - states like Missouri, Indiana, Ohio, Michigan, Arkansas, Alabama - all have many offerings that can yield 13-15% cash on cash returns easily.  There are even some markets out there where you can build to rent - build a new house and rent that out - cash flow day one AND have immediate equity in the property after construction. 

Post: Sell or Cashout Refinance?

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@Charles Elliott I would interview local property managers and see what they think they could get for rents in that market - let the numbers do the talking for you. If this is your primary residence, you could potentially still be eligible for the capital gains exclusion - and wouldn't have to make that decision to sell right away. Based on the financials - maintenance, capex, your mortgage payment, taxes, management fees - you should be able to run some numbers on this property to see how it performs. I work with investors who always manage from a distance - just have to have the right management team on the ground to make it work as long as everything else "adds up". I'm very hesitant to sell properties in high appreciating markets with high rental demand - but freeing up some equity might not be so bad either. May want to talk to a lender because the type of financing may change and require a higher LTV as well.

Post: First investment property with Rent to Retirement

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@Mev D. - thanks so much for sharing your experience with everyone!  I look forward to continuing working with you on helping you achieve your passive income goals (and hopefully surpassing them!).  If there is anything I can help with along the way feel free to reach out to me!  I'm excited about the new build in Cape Coral as well - I know you will be extremely pleased with the results and jumpstarting your portfolio growth!

Eric

Post: How do I buy my first rental property?

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@Miles Viant thanks for the shout out.  

@Nick Henry This is actually a topic that has been covered many times in the forums and of course you can learn more about us through other experiences and reviews here on Bigger Pockets (see below). In the meantime - congrats on beginning this journey - so many different ways to go - BRRRR, turnkey, house hacking - it really comes down to you - your time availability , your experience, your budget, and your short/long term goals!

https://www.biggerpockets.com/forums/92/topics/518583-feedback-on-renttoretirement-and-zach-lemaster

https://www.biggerpockets.com/forums/92/topics/765347-rent-to-retirement-review

https://www.biggerpockets.com/forums/850/topics/895660-my-first-investment-property-an-out-of-state-deal

https://www.biggerpockets.com/forums/92/topics/893621-rent-to-retirement-review?highlight_post=5222888&page=1#p5222888

https://www.biggerpockets.com/forums/311/topics/915728-experience-with-rent-to-retirement-turnkey?page=1#p5345200

https://www.biggerpockets.com/forums/92/topics/808479-rent-to-retirement-experiences


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https://www.biggerpockets.com/forums/92/topics/581730-rent-to-retirement-zach

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@Gregory Cottarel - I've run into this countless times over the years with investors before. Obviously you will want to check with legal counsel - but what many investors have done in the past is quit claim the property into a land trust. The land trust in and of itself won't offer you the protection you're looking for - however - the land trust will list a lifetime beneficiary and a deathtime beneficiary. The lifetime beneficiary can be an LLC, etc. The death time beneficiary is a living trust. The reason this works and avoids the due on sale clause is because of something called the Garn-St Germain Act of 1982 - there is language in there that allows you to change the property's title into an inter-vivos trust - examples of these include - revocable living trusts AND, you guessed it - land trust. It's the same provision that allows you to put your property into a living trust and the bank can not invoke a due on sale due to this act. Hope that helps!

Post: Turnkey Company Suggestion

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There has been quite a bit of discussion on this topic in the forums. I've posted some threads below that I think will help in answering your question. Please feel free to reach out at any point with any questions you have!

https://www.biggerpockets.com/users/ZacharyCole/references

https://www.biggerpockets.com/forums/92/topics/518583-feedback-on-renttoretirement-and-zach-lemaster

https://www.biggerpockets.com/forums/92/topics/765347-rent-to-retirement-review

https://www.biggerpockets.com/forums/850/topics/895660-my-first-investment-property-an-out-of-state-deal

https://www.biggerpockets.com/co/RentToRetirement

https://www.biggerpockets.com/forums/92/topics/929410-rent-to-retirement-updates?highlight_post=5508807&page=1#p5508807

https://www.biggerpockets.com/forums/92/topics/893621-rent-to-retirement-review?highlight_post=5222888&page=1#p5222888

https://www.biggerpockets.com/forums/311/topics/915728-experience-with-rent-to-retirement-turnkey?page=1#p5345200

https://www.biggerpockets.com/forums/92/topics/808479-rent-to-retirement-experiences

https://www.biggerpockets.com/forums/12/topics/533693-anyone-worked-with-renttoretirement-turnkey

https://www.biggerpockets.com/forums/92/topics/581730-rent-to-retirement-zach

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Post: Top Turnkey Markets 2021 ( ~ 100K)

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@Mragank Yadav 

Welcome to BP and the forums - and taking to the next level with engaging the community!  There are many markets out there that still have inventory for cash flowing properties.  What you will find is that lots of investors want to focus on "hot markets" - which is great, except when you see home prices increasing exponentially and rents not quite keeping pace - you start running into properties that aren't quite cash flowing.  

There are still many great markets that you can invest in - even with keeping your budget around $80-100k.  On single family, you may only need 20% down, although with lending these days and recent changes to Fannie and Freddie it DOES sometimes make more sense to bring more to the table for a lower interest rate (25%).  

As you can imagine, I work with many investors in the Seattle market as well as folks all over the world for that matter that are looking for other markets to invest in.  Here are some of the markets I would have you look further into - keeping in mind I am assuming you are looking for cash flow and want to keep those investment levels at 80-100k.  (1) Alabama - specifically the Birmingham area - this area has seen some recent growth - home prices are rising and demand is rising - but there are still some great cash flowing investments to be found (especially in the outlying areas of Birmingham - like Adamsville)   (2)  Tulsa, OK - another market with a good job market, good population growth, and affordable housing.  (3) Quad Cities - this is where Iowa and Illinois meet (separated by the Mississippi River) - you will can find affordable properties in this market as well that are cash flowing - Rock City, IL, Davenport, IA Bettendorf,IA  and Moline, IL.

Bottom line is - there are still some great markets to research and find some great investment opportunities!

Post: Questions about Rent To Retirement

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Looking forward to speaking with you soon!

Post: Rent to Retirement experience

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@Arjun S. - Thanks for the feedback you have posted - very excited and happy for you on our first investment together.  Having said that I did want to address your concerns and the points you made regarding the new build in FL.  There have been many factors here that have lead to some frustrations and I understand and hear what you are saying.  Let's address each point that you have made.

First, we can start with land cost.  When we undertake a new build we are really dealing with two purchases and two costs if you will.  The first being the purchase of land and the second being the construction cost.  We do our best to budget, study and analyze the market so we are delivering information as accurately and quickly as possible.  However, when markets are appreciating in an unprecedented rate, sometimes that is not always possible.  Take the case for land - when we first started working in this market lots were going for $15k and this is what we budget for in our pro formas.  Land prices began to soar as demand rose in that area and competition for the same lots of land became fierce, thus driving the prices upwards.  Add in the fact that some hedge fund managers came in and started buying large parcels of land and the price rose even further.  The current retail price for lots is right about $40k right now, but we are still able to source lots at $30k and sometimes a little lower through our connections in the area.  It's something we try to predict as accurately as possible but we are at the mercy of the market.  We also have to source land that you can actually build on without a ton of additional hassles and/or expenses.  Meaning - we want to source land that is designated to not require additional flood insurance, or have too much shrubbery and/or trees to clear, as well as not have additional factors like too much rock to clear - thus narrowing the pool of lots we can choose from.

Next, we move to lending - talk about a moving target.  As you know the banks have been changing rules and interest rates often this year.  Again, I share everything I can as I have the information.  The biggest change in this market occurred when in April, Fannie and Freddie lowered the percentage of investment loans they would buy from the banks from 17% down to 7% - this sent many investors into a frenzy as their pre approvals for construction loans on investment properties vanished.  This left us looking for other options for our investors, including private money lenders.  As these changes occurred many investors now found their interest rates had risen (even in the conventional realm) and some lenders that we have worked with for years no longer could support our investors.  We have worked diligently for new sources of lending and we were able to secure another source for most investors.  In your case, the private lending source that we were able to secure is funding a number of deals for us and our investors.  The funds they are securing is also at a greater cost - and fortunately or unfortunately this means the cost of the funding is increased as well.  Again, not something we knew about or anticipated, just dealing with the factors at play in the current market and this particular set of circumstances.

Finally - the build cost.  This is the second part of the total cost of construction and again, we have seen steady increases in material costs.   As you pointed out, yes the cost of lumber has been levelling out - which is one factor - but there are other factors at play as well.  For example - supply chain logistics - many contractors I work with are still having a hard time getting materials, even as prices begin to level out, the demand is still sometimes higher than the supply which leads to price increases that are put on the builder, and ultimately the investor that is purchasing in the market.  The good news is that these price increases are also reflected in property prices and appraisals that are coming in - so it's not a one-sided game.  Specifically - I believe when we started the properties were appraising for $270-280k, whereas as of today we have appraisals coming in (pre construction even) at $310k!

In summary, I know this response is long but I wanted to address each and every point you have made and assure you I always want to communicate clearly the details I have when I have them to make sure you and all the investors I work with have all the information they need to make good investment decisions.  We at R2R (and of course myself personally) don't like being surprised by lending restrictions, interest rate changes, price increases, delays, or lack of labor force either - but it's part of the world that we are operating in - especially in high demand markets.  I hope this has answered your questions and concerns - you know you can always reach out to me directly with any other concerns or questions and I feel ultimately you will be very pleased with the end result of your investment experience and that these frustrations in the beginning will end in an investment that has resulted in not only a cash flowing opportunity for you as well as an asset that has equity built into it day one.