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All Forum Posts by: Eric P.

Eric P. has started 55 posts and replied 461 times.

Post: Vacation Rentals vs. Normal Rentals

Eric P.Posted
  • New York City, NY
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Originally posted by @William Pratt:

Picture this: instead of making $1000 per month on a rental, you can make $1000 per week.

Sound too good to be true? Well that’s how I picture vacation rentals! With the right location and marketing, the way I see it, you could easily make quadruple your monthly earnings (obviously with a few contingencies)!

It’s THIS belief that makes me believe vacation rental can be the best way to maximize profits!

It’s also THIS belief that makes me feel like there’s something wrong with my mindset!

Could someone PLEASE help me understand? I am new, so obviously my knowledge is not nearly as seasoned as many others. Could someone help me come to the knowledge and understanding of what the pros and cons of vacation rentals vs. normal rentals.

Thank you!

 TL;DR: There’s no free lunch: They make more $$ but require more work. That said, you can outsource all the work, just gotta spend a lotta time up front setting up all your processes & technologies & hiring good people

Post: Allow Pets in your STR/Vacation Rental? Yes or No?

Eric P.Posted
  • New York City, NY
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Originally posted by @Bob Mueller Jr.:

Did a search for this and couldn't find a lot of discussion about pets in STR, only LTR. I am trying to rent my "winter" home in St. Pete, FL for 6 months while I'm gone (in 30-day minimum increments thanks to my HOA). I have gotten a couple inquires in two weeks on the market but not much. The lack of interest has me wondering if allowing pets would open things up for me? We have an older Golden Retriever and are dog people, but I just keep thinking about younger dogs or dogs that aren't trained well being at the property and destroying things. Do you folks generally allow pets in your STR's or not? I am open to the idea of collecting additional revenue via the NR pet deposits/pet fees and rolling the dice, but I don't want my house totally destroyed either, thanks!

 Funny, I was just pondering this exact thing. Biggest downside for me is the shedding & pet hair that literally gets everywhere & is a pain to fully clean up. My main concern would be future guests (esp those with pet allergies) giving me 1-star bc  they couldn’t stop sneezing all week while on vacation at my place & now they’re pissed at me that I let a prior guest have a pet

I guess if you’re gonna allow pets make it clear in the listing so people with pet allergies don’t stay there and give you unexpected 1 star reviews

Originally posted by @James Clifford:

@Eric P. I would recommend going with option 2. A great resource to find a designer and one that I have used before is Houzz.com. The designer I used from this site was motivated to build their portfolio so they were more than happy to work for less than a typical interior designer (15-20% fee for total purchase + expenses). This young designer and their team also did stagging for SFH sales and had an inventory of furniture that they could "sell" to us at a significant discount. The deisgners team pulled off the design and installation of furniture in ~1.5 weeks.

Not sure how accurate this is across the market and different types of properties, but I have found $10-$12 a SF to be a good estimator of what it should cost to furnish and decorate an STR. You can do it for less of course by shopping around estate sales, craigslist, goodwill etc., but everyday the property is not listed you are losing revenue.

 Thanks James - that’s a huge help! I didn’t realize that some designers will actually shop on your behalf and/or sell you used furniture from their inventory. That’s a huge help for those of us with busy day jobs who are trying to furnish an out of state residence!

Originally posted by @Benjamin Vail:

@Account Closed good post! There are a few other strategies for lowering start up costs that you did not mention. 

RENTAL FURNITURE! 

I mean if your business already does rental arbitrage with landlords properties, why not do it with a big companies furniture also? My company runs 32 Units in Airbnb. Some of the houses we started them off by renting an entire house of furniture for about $300/month. We did buy dishes and towels ($500), but rented most everything else. Our profit went from $1500/month down to $1200/month on most of the units we rent furniture at, but so much less $$ up front, so that the ROI is WAY better!

Then over a period of the next couple months, if the unit is doing well, we start to buy pieces that will go well in that house. After about 3 months, we pick a couple days, and block the calendar. We call the rental company to come and return the rental furniture, and fill it will purchased item. 

You can get much better stuff at better deals when you spread out the purchasing period over 3 months. Also, you can just save your profits from the first couple months, and use that cash for the furniture. 

We like to get some guest feedback from each house, and use that information to determine a theme, and inform the design process as we further develop the space. If we get a lot of negative feedback, then maybe we would consider not further developing that peticular space, and just ride out the current lease before moving on. 

That was a free one, but just one of the many strategies we use in our STR business. Good Luck!

Great thread here - appreciate all the advice from seasoned investors! So something I've been thinking about - if you acquire (buy or rent) a property that's far from where you live, how would you prefer to furnish it so that you can STR it? 2 options I can think of - trying to figure out which is cheaper:

Option 1) Contact a local furniture store & have them furnish it for me. Downside: paying full retail value, they’ll also have to deliver & set it up. Will be quick & easy but quite expensive

Option 2) Hire someone locally to furnish the place for me. Like a college student who’s majoring in design or something. Someone resourceful who’s used to working with a small budget. Have them find me deeply discounted used furniture, free items, estate sale items, etc etc - the way Jason was talking about.

I’m sure this person could furnish it super cheap but I’d have to pay them like $20/hr to go around finding me stuff which will add up pretty quickly as well! (Also I’d have to ask them for sample designs & thoroughly vet their design skills & their vision for designing my house, but that goes without saying)

Thoughts?

Post: Best locations for STR/vacation rental

Eric P.Posted
  • New York City, NY
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Originally posted by @Wendy Schultz:

I love the Gatlinburg area and have my sights set on that area to invest in a property. What draws people there during the winter?  Do smaller properties do better or larger properties? 

Re property size, from the data I’ve seen, it tends to be pretty linear in the Smokies. As a rough approximation, you can expect E TN gross annual rental revenue to be around 15-20% of purchase price at most price points & home sizes. You might as well scale up & get the largest house you can comfortably afford

Post: How To Dominate Airbnb SEO

Eric P.Posted
  • New York City, NY
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  • Votes 348
Originally posted by @John Underwood:
Originally posted by @Eric P.:
Originally posted by @John Underwood:

My problem is that Airbnb isn't widely used in my area. I can do a search and I pull up in the top 15 or so. I have the same pictures and description as on Homeaway/ VRBO and yet I get only a handful of bookings per year on Airbnb. I get 95% of my bookings from Homeaway/Vrbo. My summer season is already 80% booked and the rest will book soon at top dollar.

I keep my Airbnb account open and updated just in case.

 That's awesome, John! What market are you operating in?

 Lake Hartwell. Close to Clemson University.

 Ah, I’ve heard good things about this area. I’m guessing you need to be lakefront to make the really big money??

Post: How To Dominate Airbnb SEO

Eric P.Posted
  • New York City, NY
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Originally posted by @John Underwood:

My problem is that Airbnb isn't widely used in my area. I can do a search and I pull up in the top 15 or so. I have the same pictures and description as on Homeaway/ VRBO and yet I get only a handful of bookings per year on Airbnb. I get 95% of my bookings from Homeaway/Vrbo. My summer season is already 80% booked and the rest will book soon at top dollar.

I keep my Airbnb account open and updated just in case.

 That's awesome, John! What market are you operating in?

Originally posted by @Brad Penley:

I’m looking to Airbnb my primary house but I’m also looking to possibly buy the house across the street to Airbnb as well. I know how to valuate long term rentals that have the same rent each month, but how do you valuate short term rentals?

Any book suggestions on how to valuate and position Airbnb’s for max return with the least amount of work?

Thanks!

 Lots of great advice here. So here's the ultimate conundrum:

- sometimes I pick a few benchmark properties in my target area and track them to see how they're performing, BUT... you never know which dates are true revenue dates and which are simply the owner blocking the unit for their use! So picking a few benchmark properties can result in small sample size bias

- so then I look at aggregate numbers across the area using tools like AirDNA BUT...  you never know if the averages you're viewing are skewed bc maybe a lot of the rentals in your area are lakefront but your property isn't... OR maybe your property IS lakefront and the others aren't... OR maybe a lot of the rentals in your area were recently renovated, or have a pool, or have amazing views, or a million other things that the property you're targeting doesn't have in which case you have to skew your estimates up or down...

There's a million ifs in the data, whether you inspect individual properties or aggregate views of your area. Do your homework but also recognize that, sadly, data isn't perfect. It's much easier to do this kind of homework when buying an LTR where you know that pretty much every 3-BR home in a certain neighborhood will rent for around $1100/mon. STR has WAY more variables than LTR as rental rates and occupancy rates change from week to week.

Post: Airbnb Hosting Hacks For More Success

Eric P.Posted
  • New York City, NY
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Originally posted by @Account Closed:

Hey guys... Here are some more hacks for success as an Airbnb host. 

Reduce The Likeliness of Single Night Stays

So imagine that you have a property listed for $220/night. One day someone decides that they're going to book your place for a full week straight. So you're going to make $1,500 for their booking. Except right before they book someone else books for 1 day in the middle of the week thus causing your booking to no longer be available. So you just traded $1,500 for $220 which isn't good. What you want to do is mitigate the chances of this situation occurring. 

One way you can do this is by having a minimum night stay. If your property is in high demand and is usually 90% booked or more every single month then this may be an option. However if you're somewhere between 50% and 90% then you may not want to do this because you could be turning away revenue that you wouldn't otherwise receive. 

A better strategy is to make it undesirable to rent for one night by increasing the admin costs associated with a single night stay. For example the cleaning costs. You can increase these for a single night stay and make it similar to the cost of two nights thus causing that person to usually book at least two nights. This will save you from losing out on revenue from people who want to stay longer. 

Adjust Your Daily Rate

You should always know your market like the back of your hand. You should know about local trends, events, concerts, super-bowls, etc. that will be taking place in and around your market. Then you should use this data to increase your daily rates based on seasonality, day of the week and special events. Every market and sub-market will have trends that you should pay attention to so you can act accordingly. This can be the difference of making several thousands of dollars per month vs several hundred. 

There are apps and software programs you can use to automate this process once you're at that stage in your business growth. The tool I recommend is called Beyond Pricing.

Instant Book

Instant book is a tool on Airbnb that allows you to skip the process of approving a guest and will automatically allow them to book your listing. This will save you time, energy and effort once you get above 3 properties. Instant book also allows you to have standards for who you rent to such as reviews, previous stays and identification. This is a built in tool for automation which will become essential if you want to scale your Airbnb business to 6-figures or more. 

If you found this useful you may also like: https://www.biggerpockets.com/forums/530/topics/696164-how-to-dominate-airbnb-seo

,best

Jason

 Jason - Appreciate all the great advice you’ve been dispensing! You should start a blog & add a post a day with the latest advice. And link to it from here so we can all find it!