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All Forum Posts by: Eric Piccione

Eric Piccione has started 43 posts and replied 87 times.

Quote from @Sean Hudgins:

@Eric Piccione Have you already been quoted the 15% for the management fee? That seems low for STR management, though I am in a beach town, so my prices may be very different.

My advice to you is first to pay down the principle and refi to a point where you will feel more comfortable carrying the payment if you have a slow month as an STR or any vacancy as an LTR. I don't know what that looks like for you, but deciding where you want to be payment-wise is a good starting point.

I think in your situation, starting with it as an STR is a great move. Your revenue is higher, and as you said, it gives you a place to stay when you travel back to the States. The upside to this is that you have a remote job, and if things went terribly, you could always travel back to the US and get your house in order, i.e., furniture in storage or sold, and then either sell the house or rent it long term. Doing the opposite order would likely be more challenging; if you LTR first, then you have a year of tenant wear and tear, and if you wanted to try and STR, you would have to come back and source new furniture.

Investing is always a risk and reward continuum, and if you have the opportunity and the financial ability to weather the storm with the higher risk and reward, then I would do that first with backups in place in the event that it doesn't go to plan. 


Definitely, We're leaning toward that option as it gives us a Plan B. I would love to arbitrage the $ to get more properties but at the end of the day, if we stumble across a solid STR opportunity, then we're in a good spot to be able to pay down a portion. Our rate is 5.6% so it's not terrible but it's leaving us in a tough position as our necessity for STR income is quite high so paying down a portion would be great. My thought would be to do a rate term where we don't pull cash out but just adjust rates when they go down. (Whenever that will happen)

I'm moving overseas with my wife and daughter to be closer to her family and I'm trying to figure out the best way to proceed.

I work in remote sales so as of recently, my commissions have been great. That said, while we're abroad, I'm trying to take advantage of the time we have when we have good income to set ourselves up nicely from a financial perspective.

In order not to "burn any bridges." We're planning to keep our current primary residence in the states and potentially list it as an STR. That way we have a home base if and when we decide to come back for a few weeks/months.

Doing some research on Airdna, there are only a few properties that have the same features/amenities as us (8 in the whole city) and they range from $250-$1,100/night in the winter.

We'd be one of the only properties in our city with certain amenities (gym and hot tub) So my rationale is that we'll be able to charge highly for a unique experience. My only issue is that our mortgage payment is quite high as we never intended to make our current primary residence a rental in the next 5-10 years. So in order to break even as a STR, we'd need $4,200/m (15% management fee - $3,500 for mortgage + utilities)

Likewise with a LTR we'd break even past $3,200/m which seems more than attainable since comps come in from $3,500-$4,000 for similar listings.

My 2 questions are;

1. Would it be worth to try a STR or just go to LTR for the property to make less revenue but also have less expenses?

2. Since we live overseas and our monthly expenses are much lower, would it make more sense to pay off all or a portion of our home in the states or just look to expand our portfolio?

I feel like I would regret not at least trying a STR for our property as it could work out well for us. At the same time, I to minimize my downside in investments so LTR's would be a more consistent cash flow option (at least to me)

Something my wife and I have thought about doing is at least reducing the principle balance so that whichever option we go for, we at least aren't losing money every month.

Really looking for some clarity here as these next few years are going to be very important in order for us to set ourselves up well for the future.

Thank you in advance for your thoughts and advice on this topic!

Post: Masterminds centered around younger investors

Eric PiccionePosted
  • Investor
  • Cincinnati, OH
  • Posts 89
  • Votes 22

Same, I made a more general overall business mastermind a few months back where all business owners can get together but it would be great to have a real estate related group! Would love to join if one gets created!

Post: I have a real estate focused website that caters to Airbnb, HELP!

Eric PiccionePosted
  • Investor
  • Cincinnati, OH
  • Posts 89
  • Votes 22
Quote from @Julie Nguyen:

Hi Eric! I think I might be able to help you out! Funny how I came across this post lol. 
I help content creators and innovators on social media platforms for monetization. Also if you need help with your website, I can ask my friend too. Are you looking into an investor for your site or to market it? I think tech is always a great business to go into (bay area grad lol) I'm actually in the process of creating an app. If you don't try you never know! 

Definitely I'll send you a PM!

Post: I have a real estate focused website that caters to Airbnb, HELP!

Eric PiccionePosted
  • Investor
  • Cincinnati, OH
  • Posts 89
  • Votes 22

I created a website a few months back, have done all the initial work of optimizing it and making sure it's easy to navigate. The problem i've run into is it's not converting well. I've gotten around 15K views on ads and about 300 web visitors but no luck. I don't think I can post the website here but If anyone would be able to help me out I would be extremely grateful. Plenty of opportunity with this site and I'd love to work with someone in the BP community to get this up and running. There's some long term goals I have with the site and would like to work with someone else to improve it and make it more professional. Thank you in advance to anyone who might be able to PM or put me in touch with someone who can help!

Post: Get a HELOC or Cash Out Refinance for a down payment?

Eric PiccionePosted
  • Investor
  • Cincinnati, OH
  • Posts 89
  • Votes 22

Hey everyone, in the final stages of deciding which route makes the most financial sense.

We live in Texas and currently House hack a property and are wanting to utilize the equity built up in this home to the next one for a down payment.

Current locked in rate is 2.45% and would be able to cash out 25-45K of equity. 

Current offers sit around 5.75-6.315%

Total mortgage payment would go from $1,497 up to $2190 at the highest estimate. We're confident we could get something all in for $1,700-$1,800 and pull out $30K

The other side would be to use a HELOC and use that as a downpayment on the property. Estimates we've gotten sit around 5.99% variable rates of a 40K cash out.

What route would make more logistical sense in order to get the next property in a risk-averse fashion and set yourself up for continued success?

Post: HELOC to pay down payment on 2nd home or cash out refi?

Eric PiccionePosted
  • Investor
  • Cincinnati, OH
  • Posts 89
  • Votes 22
Quote from @Reid Chauvin:

@Eric Piccione - truthfully, your best bet is to save up enough funds for the downpayment/closing costs. If you are looking to buy a new primary there are a few different low down payment options (i.e. 5% down or less), depending upon your situation. You also have the options of getting a cash gift from relatives to assist with your upfront costs. 

Selling the home makes sense if you won't have solid cash-flow when you turn it to a rental. Getting a HELOC will be difficult, plus you have to contend with how you will pay it off. A cash-out refinance will, I imagine, make it pretty tough to cash-flow on your former primary residence.


 We'd actually still be net positive with a refinance. This house hack has done pretty well and we'd estimate it to still be ahead $500+ after everything is said and done. Not including the gains from the next property and what we'd get for it. What are your thoughts on a home equity line? 

Post: HELOC to pay down payment on 2nd home or cash out refi?

Eric PiccionePosted
  • Investor
  • Cincinnati, OH
  • Posts 89
  • Votes 22
Quote from @Andrew Garcia:

Hi @Eric Piccione, if you are taking out a HELOC as a primary residence, you would have to live in that property for a designated period of time afterward.

Your current lender does not want to be held liable if the loan gets called due because of mortgage fraud.

Since you are considering moving, selling might be your best option. That way, you have more capital to deploy.

However, that interest rate is very tempting and is hard to give up.

I agree with Scott Trench's post HERE about why a HELOC should not be used as a down payment.

A cash-out refinance would jump your rate up 3-4% so that is likely not the best option.

There is another product that might be the best of both worlds. It is a fixed-rate fully amortizing second lien known as a home equity loan.

It is essentially the same as the first mortgage but with a higher interest rate and a lower balance.

If you plan to keep your current residence and your low interest rate, I would recommend that option.

Hope this helps! Let me know if I can be of any assistance.


 Good points, so comparing selling and Home Equity Line, we wouldn't want to start from ground zero by selling and getting property #1 again. For us, we have some cash on the sides but not enough for a down payment. That said, we would definitely want to start acquiring properties quickly. What if we don't need the full lump sum? We're looking for enough to purchase the next property and do some minor renovations after that, nothing major. Curious to hear your thoughts as we want to start tapping into our home to get us further along on the real estate journey just unsure where to start.

Post: HELOC to pay down payment on 2nd home or cash out refi?

Eric PiccionePosted
  • Investor
  • Cincinnati, OH
  • Posts 89
  • Votes 22

We have a primary residence that we locked in a good rate of 2.45% and are wanting to purchase our 2nd investment soon. We're considering our options and are curious if we should utilize a HELOC, cash out refi, or just sell it?

Since our rate is so low now, I would hate to make that go up by refinancing. But on the flip side, our current lender we're trying to go through said we can't use a heloc when it's an investment property. We live in the home as well and rent out a garage apartment in the back so I can't understand why that matters. 

I would really like some help here as we're very ready to move out of this home and go somewhere else to build up our portfolio. Any help would be massively appreciated.

Post: Using a HELOC and Using an FHA?

Eric PiccionePosted
  • Investor
  • Cincinnati, OH
  • Posts 89
  • Votes 22

Thank you for responding Andrew, We are in the process of getting one approved. In your experience, is an FHA loan for the second house achievable? We did refinance our home last year since getting our initial loan but I'm not sure if the FHA is still attached to the home or not. If we're able to get our next one for 5% or less that would be incredible.