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All Forum Posts by: Account Closed

Account Closed has started 23 posts and replied 927 times.

Post: Decrease expenses or wait to cash flow?

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  • Rental Property Investor
  • Central, fl
  • Posts 950
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Originally posted by @Kristen Graham:

Hi everyone,

I am wondering if for my first deal I should be only looking for cash flowing properties. They are hard to find where I am. But there is a lot of potential for me to lower my expenses (rent) by a few hundred a month. So I am wondering if any vets would recommend buying a property anyway and be able to have more money saved for the most part or wait until I find a better deal? All the areas I am looking at would definitely appreciate. So in the end I think it would be a good decision, but that's years away and I'd like actual investors advice.

Thanks,

Kristen

Depends on what your goal is for investing.  Cash flow obviously like you said. But what strategy.  You buying a multi unit 4 or less and living in one to get the best interest rates or is this strictly a investment property?

Based on your statement of you already are a renter, I am going to respond based on it as an owner occupant. 

For me personally I wish I had learned about house hacking 20 years ago, I’d probably own 30-100 properties and I’d be retired by now. I would love to have had someone else pay the majority of my housing expenses.  

Go for it.  Do the math and make it work.  If you are house hacking plan to refinance out before you move again to get rid of the PmI

Good luck

Post: Let tenant deduct services rendered from rent?

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  • Rental Property Investor
  • Central, fl
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I don’t allow tenants to do anything involving my properties.  For me I’d rather pay more then have any issues down the road. 

Post: Favorite tenent occupation?

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  • Rental Property Investor
  • Central, fl
  • Posts 950
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any profession that is stable and typically does direct deposit.  

Post: Mobile Home Park Houses

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  • Rental Property Investor
  • Central, fl
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Take my advice with a grain of salt.  Are there any tenant owned homes?  

What’s those lot rents?

I agree if they are run down you could give them away for 2-3k without putting money into them.  

I’ve been told and believe the hard part a turn around park is  filling the park.  

How many lots is the property?

Price per lot?

They on private utilities or city?

It all plays into the cost basis for the property. 

Post: how to prepare for taxes? 2 properties, 4 units

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  • Rental Property Investor
  • Central, fl
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I am using excel.  Doesn’t seem to be an issue at the moment.  If I scale up larger I will probably move to some more organized software. But for my  size and seemingly yours it should be fine.  

Post: Tenant was “gifted” a dog

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  • Rental Property Investor
  • Central, fl
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I allow pets but I make it not worth it for them to have an animal there.  200 dollar non refundable and 20 dollars a month. 

As far as the lease violation I would make it hurt that much more for them.  300 dollars non refundable fee and 25-50 a month. Or if you want kick them out.  You said it’s a C unit so be firm with them.  Don’t bend your policy or make money from it.  

Post: Buying with family. Contract a must?

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  • Rental Property Investor
  • Central, fl
  • Posts 950
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Originally posted by @Jonathan Santiago:

Hopefully looking to close on my 2nd deal within the next couple weeks and was able to get my dad to partner up with me which he has been dying to invest in property. So I am financing under my name and we are putting both our names on the deed. My question is, what kind of contract, if any, should we put together to protect both of us? Should we speak with a lawyer to help us draft one up? Still pretty new and looking to get some perspective from people who may have done similar deals in this way. 

Yes it is more important with family then a business, would you do a business with a stranger?  Well that stranger isn’t going to be coming over for Thanksgiving dinner.  

Yes draft up a legal agreement.  One thing to take into account is that when he passes away (because death and taxes will happen) that the share of the property goes to you and you alone.  He can give his other assets to other family members but upon death your investment shouldn’t be diluted.  

Only takes a few searches in a county record to see the deed of people that didn’t plan for death.  My largest is 47 people on the deed with 7 estates listed. That property will never make anyone money and will most likely be lost to the fees of an attorney.  

Post: Is this a good deal? 8 unit rental property @ 350k

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  • Rental Property Investor
  • Central, fl
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Double post

Post: Is this a good deal? 8 unit rental property @ 350k

Account ClosedPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Central, fl
  • Posts 950
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Originally posted by @Andrew Michaud:

Income

Unit 1 - 1250/mo - 15000/annual 

Unit 2 - 450/mo - 5400/annual

Unit 3 - 475/mo - 5700/annual 

Unit 4 - 625/mo - 7500/annual 

Unit 5 - 400/mo - 4800/annual

Unit 6 - 600/mo - 7200/annual

Unit 7 - 475/mo - 5700/annual

Unit 8 - 1250/mo - 15000/annual

Total Monthly - 5525

Total Annually - 66,300

Expenses 

Property Tax - 7,500

Insurance - 3,000

Water/Sewer/Trash - 1,700

Electric/Oil - 3,500

Cable/Internet - 1,800

Lawn/Snow - 1,000

Repairs/Vacancy - 3,000

Total Expenses - $23,200

Mortgage - $22,000

66300

Total - 45,200

Net Income - $21,100

I guess I had a couple of other things running through my head when calculating last night.. but these are the stats. We are now at 21,100. Lets call it 20k and put the rest towards vacancy/repairs. 

70k initial investment, 20k annual income after all expenses and mortgage. Is this still a good deal? 

So assuming the two units at 1,250 a month are you accounting for replacing furniture and items in the unit over time?

Things that bit me some.  The property tax is that based on your purchase price or the previous owners?

I don’t see any capex expenses allocated. And your repairs are super low for 8 units.  

How old is the building?  How old are the roof(s).  Two story or one?

What about property management?   You have to account for that for your figures or you are making it appear like a better deal then it is. 10% is pretty standard.  

Your numbers are thin at best and more then likely not remotely close to how it will actually perform.  If you want the deal go for it, but be honest with your numbers.  

Post: Is this a good deal? 8 unit rental property @ 350k

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  • Rental Property Investor
  • Central, fl
  • Posts 950
  • Votes 821

you’re  using wishful thinking.  I have a similar property and the numbers are much thinner then you project.  You need a rent roll and actual balance sheet and a in depth inspection.  What you don’t know will destroy not only your cash flow, but you ability to get another property or the motivation to buy another one.