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All Forum Posts by: Elliott Kim

Elliott Kim has started 3 posts and replied 15 times.

Originally posted by @Chris Mason:

Hi @Elliott Kim,

FHA offers on 2-4 unit props in hot markets very rarely get accepted on MLS properties.

Get bootstrappy. Find them off market. 

Or, another of many possibilities, look for things that are SFRs with "hidden units," like the split-level that could easily have a kitchen installed upstairs, and you could lock a door and not give the tenants keys, and poof it can be rented out as a duplex.

The ten zillion other people on zillow/redfin/etc aren't even going to see ^that^ guy, because their search criteria omitted it.

Hey Chris this sounds great! Very creative. If I may ask, how do you determine whether a SFR has hidden units from a birds eye view online on MLS/Redfin? Or do you ultimately find these when touring?

Thank you all for the input. It sounds like my concerns have been affirmed. FHA financing is a less favorable choice compared to conventional/cash. In order to stay competitive, I'll try to maintain the highest offer (capped at what would keep me qualifying for FHA) and set a higher earnest money deposit. We'll see how much the price bids up.

Originally posted by @James C.:

Elliot,

Bidding wars are a tough place to cut your teeth on a first deal. 

First: DO NOT BUY WITHOUT AN INSPECTION (Unless you are a seasoned inspector, construction person etc.)

SECOND: DO NOT BUY WITHOUT A FINANCING CONTINGENCY (you can't close if you don't get financed, so don't pretend you can)

If you need to offer without inspection... bring your inspector to the showing, and inform the broker you are doing an inspection on the property in preparation for an offer. 

Personally, I would go see the property, price it according to my numbers, do my due diligence, and let the chips fall where they may. I'm not going to be rushed into buying something I don't understand. That is a recipe for disaster of the highest order, which is what a bidding war is.

You might be better served finding another off market property, or if the market is too hot, another market. Find something you can take a little more time on.

Good Luck,

Jim

 Thanks for the leveling advice, Jim.  It's very tempting for me to disregard certain risks in order to rush into my first deal. I will not cut corners though! From your transaction experiences, are there any  effective incentives/agreements that you've found to be very receptive to the seller?

Hello Bigger Pockets!

I'm in pursuit to becoming a first-time house owner/hacker in the extremely competitive market of Chicago. Upon the property's listing a day ago, I quickly consulted my agent and decided it best to throw an offer at listing price to get some conversation going. Surprisingly, the agent said she received more than 20 blind offers on the property. I am going to go visit the property tomorrow at a group showing and was wondering if there was any way to engineer my offer to stand out amongst the others.

A quick facts breakdown:

- Property: Triplex, looking to owner occupy and rent other units

- Market: downtown Chicago

- Financing: Pre-approval for 3.5% down FHA available and given

I really want this deal to work out but feel as if I'm at a disadvantage using FHA financing. I've heard waiving contingencies or inspections could improve my offer but I'm hesitant to blindly buying a property without due diligence at my limited level of experience.

Any comments and suggestions are appreciated.

Thank you!

Post: Looking to Help Beginners ! (Investing , Financing, Managing)

Elliott KimPosted
  • Rolling Meadows, IL
  • Posts 15
  • Votes 3

@Account Closed My girlfriend and I just got an FHA pre-approval for a 3 unit multi-family. We're excited to have taken this step in the process as we've been patiently waiting to get a favorable credit profile in order to get approved. Now we're in the process of finding the best deal possible in the saturated market of downtown Chicago. I see that you're based in another saturated market of New York. Have you invested in any multi-family properties in that area and if so, can you share details about your experience? We are looking at two different scenarios: 1) invest in a higher-market proven hot-spot in the area that will be easier to find tenants and 2) invest in a potential up-and-coming neighborhood that is near one of the hot-spots. However, this area is going through gentrification and we are unsure about the volatility of occupancy as well as the types of tenants we might be renting to. Based on your experience, what do you think is a better choice for first time investors?