All Forum Posts by: EJ K.

When they are 2 feet tall...

id Also make the argument even water fountains are trade fixtures... 

@Ryan Heywood

Gotcha. Thank you. That was my interpretation. There was no infrastructure for a day care. One bathroom. She added multiple bathrooms fit for little people. There was no kitchen so she took back all that was hers. The painting was probably the only overboard part. The jungle gym was hers and looks like it did prior to her renting now. Security wasn’t there before and isn’t now. Cabinets and wall mounts/shelves aren’t there as they were before. Water fountain isn’t there as it was before. It was a dump, we left it better than it was. 
this was probably the wrong forum to post on but I wanted opposition views and I sure got them. I don’t think a lot of the situation is easily translatable. The floor damage was due to her not fixing leaks and it caused the carpet to pull up the floor when I pulled it up. By carpet I mean child rug with car lanes on it. The only permanent things we took, which weren’t there before anyway was water fountains, industrial sink ( was no kitchen before), and painting over a mural which I doubt she knows was there as she’s managing from afar.

The appliances are ours and not permanent. We left the toilets. Figured it’s doubtful another daycare goes in there now anyway.

The jungle gym wasn’t cemented in. Figured that was fair pickings too. 

She needed to paint the place anyway. It was run down and never maintained except by renter.... 

they had to paint immediately upon leasing so it wouldn’t make sense to return something prestine that was garbage before.

The concept of returning anything to prior is so out of this world because where the place is now is exponentially more valuable than when it started being rented 13 years prior. 

I don’t see how we’d have to repaint walls that weren’t painted in the first place. She essentially rented a fixer upper. The walls that had any damage after removal were added in the first place by the tennant 

we have lots of receipts for upgraded as well as fixes that were neglected by the prior owner. We left toilets. Ultimately removed every other upgrade but the fact still stands the additional room that was added, new bathrooms (plural), flooring, all made the place worth what it is now. As much as was taken out, landlord still coming out way ahead. 
I don’t think they’d have a great case with the lack of upkeep that was done in any counter. I don’t see the vandalism claim when it was just simply taking back built in cabinets, security, covering up expensive hand painted murals, reclaiming all the kitchen equipment, playground in back, all which was done by us without rent breaks or assistance from land lord. Also in time of covid I don’t think much would favor the landlord side. 
I am a landlord too, difference is I would have never done things the way this lady did. 

She has people buying some of the items she’s removing. The rest is an FU to landlord. She was there 13 years and once covid hit was harassed about payment.

She probably added 6 figures of upgrades through the years without rent break. 

I would have advocated for her more but just got into the family 3 years ago.

she advertised it as ready for a daycare. She removed all her touches that made it ready. Ie commercial sink, appliances, cubby’s, cabinets, security cameras, park outside, and is contemplating taking the toilets from the two new bathrooms she had installed and the water fountains. They painted over very nice murals as well.

@Justin Tahilramani

I’m not really involved and don’t know. I think a lot of the remodeling that she did was just approved by him without a lease. Before and after the landlord is coming out ahead. So not sure how it’d turn out. 
there was no way we were gonna let her rent it as  a preschool 

Hi, have my own rental properties but my mother in law is the tennant in this case. She decided to shut up shop on her preschool and move into her home to downsize. She rented for many years and was responsible for turning the place into a daycare. Being polish she had all her contractors do work and have the place running. Owner didn’t pay for any of it but allowed it. She stayed 13 years. She even converted uninhabitable rooms into rooms and even added children’s toilets and a whole new bathroom at that. Changed the kitchen to commercial grade. Installed cubbies. 

At the time of leaving, the owners daughter, as the owner died, marketed it as a preschool. On the way out we removed most of the commercial stuff, including sink, all the wall cubbies, painted over the murals that were in there and are planning on removing the children’s toilets too. Essentially making it uninhabitable. 

Can the owner do anything about this as the place is still significantly upgraded from when they had it? 

Also if her business is closing and turning into a home day care and it was always in an llc where she was an employee and paid by the business could she even be liable if that was a possibility.

When we left the floors were damaged too. Whoops... there was children carpet to play on and a leak in the window there. So months of the carpet getting a little moist with sunlight on it drying it up it was stuck to ground. Hence when pulling carpet up, tile came up to.

Throughout the time there she saved numerous receipts and had to fix problems on her own as well.
i think overall she was taken advantage of being a foreigner in this country but she made a great living for 13 years and funded 3 big ten universities with it. 

Any thoughts appreciated 

@Justin Windham

I’d like a link. Years 1/2 out of residency I got some bills I need to pay but after that I need to shelter money to limit the amount I repay to student loans under plsf and this seems like a great way.

My employer matches 4 percent (about 12 grand of w2 wages) and then if the hospital hits a goal they contribute another 19500 to a separate work funded account. Not sure if that counts as employer contributions or not since if My hospital were to go under (it wouldn’t) if it still counts toward that cap. 
I have a side job that I can make fair money but I’m not sure if it’s worth it with that 20 percent tidbit you just shared. thanks for the info tho.