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All Forum Posts by: Justin Eaton

Justin Eaton has started 39 posts and replied 132 times.

Post: Home Inspector vs. Flipper BEEF! (with pics!)

Justin EatonPosted
  • Engineer
  • Magnolia, NJ
  • Posts 133
  • Votes 135

@Will C. haha good call, i could create a never ending photo album with some of the things that i come across. 

@Cheryl Warner thanks for reading! 

@Jim Stoffey thanks! 

@Stephen Kappre agreed, they often look nice to the buyers the first time walking through..but when they spend a few hours there with a good home inspector the issues come to light

@Nathaniel Larrea I'm not sure what they ended up doing with the mold, i wasn't involved after the home inspection was complete. I'm sure the accessible areas could be treated for mold without having to replace the subfloor. However, i expressed concern to the buyers that the entire house may have mold in the joist bays which are covered with sheetrock not only the joist bays visible from the return grilles. The HVAC system and duct work was new, therefore there would be no reason for mold to be only present in the joist bays used for returns as they were not previously used as returns. 

Post: Home Inspector vs. Flipper BEEF! (with pics!)

Justin EatonPosted
  • Engineer
  • Magnolia, NJ
  • Posts 133
  • Votes 135

@Joseph Burell Thanks! 

Post: Home Inspector vs. Flipper BEEF! (with pics!)

Justin EatonPosted
  • Engineer
  • Magnolia, NJ
  • Posts 133
  • Votes 135

Hello BP world!  

I have been considering writing an article on this topic for some time, so here goes. 

Full disclosure: I am an active real estate investor who has performed various flips and I own some rental properties. I work full time as a licensed home inspector and structural engineer in the state of NJ. I have performed over 800 home inspections over the last 5 years and over 200 structural evaluations. 

The BEEF: Quality of flipped properties 

About 15-20% of the home inspections that i perform are on houses which have been flipped by other real estate investors. I have seen a fair share of quality flips, however, a lot of them are JUNK! I honestly feel like some of the homes become worse after some of these investors/contractors perform the renovations. The problem is, other than permit approvals from the township (which most of the time are not obtained), there is no one other than the home inspector checking the work that the investors/contractors are performing. I find that most of the flip remodels consist of kitchen, bath, flooring, and paint, while the big ticket items that actually improve the quality of the home and prolong the life of the property are ignored such as roof, structural, mechanicals, and hidden items in crawl spaces and attics (water penetrations, mold, termite, etc). I would say that deals fall through on about 50% of the inspections that i perform on flipped properties because of these big ticket item being neglected by the flippers. Often times, when i find that the big ticket items are skipped over, the quality of the finishes is also poor and in turn is a reflection of the investor. 

The purpose of the post is not for me to rip other investors because of the things that i've seen as a home inspector. The purpose of this post is to promote quality renovations and bring to light some of the big ticket items that flippers should be aware of and sometimes skip over (maybe on purpose / maybe not). I think a big reason why flippers get a bad rap is because these major items are neglected by the flipper. In addition, i want to stress the importance of due diligence to other investors when they're buying homes to flip. I do realize that some of these defects that i have listed below may have been concealed or unknown to the investor/contractor who performed the flip. Either way, it puts the flipper in a bad spot because the deal may fall apart due to these big ticket items and they will incur major repair expense OR the buyer may incur major expenses after purchasing the home if they aren't found in a home inspection. Lose lose situation for everyone. I understand that flippers are in it to make money, but often times the quality of the flips is significantly compromised because corners are cut to increase profit. This is where morality and ethics come into play, which i will not discuss in this post. 

Conundrum that comes along with being an investor AND Home Inspector: As an investor who wants to perform a quality renovation and provide a new homeowner (many times first time home buyers) with a property that will last for the next 20+ years, the profit margin needs to be at a point where i can make a respectable profit. The problem is, i am getting out-bid by investors who's renovation budget is significantly lower because of the low quality of work and ignorance to big ticket items. Therefore, they may be willing to pay $20,000 more for a home than i would, not knowing that the property needs a waterproofing system and mold treatment, or has an underground oil tank, or has termite damage, or ignores the 25 year old roof, water heater, and furnace. 

Side note on permits: I advise every investor to have their contractors pull required permits during a renovation whether you're flipping the property or keeping it as a rental. Permits may cost a few extra bucks and may prolong the reno process, but if you care about the quality of your properties you want the contractors to do things up to code. Therefore, permit approvals from local construction officials will improve the quality of the rehab because they are checking up on the contractor as needed for permit approvals. In addition, for a flip, providing the buyer with the permit documents will show that you have are being proactive and doing things legally which will lead to less skepticism during the home inspection process and ease the mind of the buyer.

I have included below some major defects that i have come across while inspecting homes, which i think are of importance for flippers to be aware of. 

1. Roofer installed a third layer of shingles over two existing layers. In NJ, you are only permitted by code to have up to two layers of shingles on the roof. Per request of the buyer, the investor ended up tearing all three layers off (including a brand new layer) and installing new. It is possible that the investor may not have known and roofer just went up and added an additional layer without mentioning that two layers exist. Maybe the roofer was at fault here. 

2. Major squirrel infestation in the attic - in this case, the investor was flipping a previously bank owned property which sat vacant for a couple years. Squirrels chewed up the wiring and insulation throughout the attic space. Nesting and contaminated insulation throughout the attic space had to be completely removed and properly treated before new insulation could be installed. Gaps in and around the gable and soffit vents had to be sealed to prevent the squirrels from returning. In addition, all of the chewed wiring had to be replaced. There was a live squirrel (not pictured) in the attic when i went in. 

3. Covered asbestos shingles - often times, it is acceptable to install new vinyl siding over old asbestos cement siding. However, if the wall sheathing of the home consists of pressed particle board (not referring to OSB) or exterior grade gypsum board, the nails for the new vinyl siding break the asbestos and blow out the sheathing. The nails come loose and the vinyl siding is falling off. For ease of understanding, imagine nailing siding into sheetrock. 

4. Missing foundation - in this case there was small laundry room addition on the rear of the home which was built via DIY project long before the investor bought the property. The 6'x6' addition was originally built over a brick foundation which was simply resting on the soil. Instead of properly installing a new foundation, the investor simply removed the failing bricks and stacked up pressure treated 2"X4" on the soil under the exterior walls of the addition and enclosed the sides with plywood to cover it up. 

5. Mold inside return bays - in this case, the home sat vacant for some time and mold grew inside the first floor ceiling joist bays. When the new HVAC system and duct work was installed, some of the joist bays were used as return ducts. However, the mold was not remediated beforehand and now conditioned air from inside the house is passing through moldy return bays. 

6. Broken and / or clogged sewer lines below the floor in the crawl space. This condition is obviously not something that is in visible sight as the pipes in this situation are below the dirt floor in the crawl space. However, investors should be aware of the piping materials and consider having a plumber out to scope these pipes prior to buying. In the photos below, the sewer pipes consisted of galvanized steel and cast iron, both of which were cracked or broken under the dirt floor of the crawl space and causing sewage to leak into the crawl space. 

7. This may seem petty but is so easily avoided. A french door refrigerator was installed against a wall and the freezer door opened less than half way. 

8. Newly installed HVAC system without permits - dual zone heating/cooling was installed and the two condensers at the exterior were installed too close together. The industry standard requires the condensers to be a minimum of 12 inches from any wall and minimum of 24 inches from each other in order for the hot air to properly dissipate in the summer season. Without proper spacing, the energy efficiency is significantly reduced as well as the life expectancy of the condensers. Township official would have failed it during inspection if permits were obtained. 

9. Defective chimney structure. To state the obvious, the photos show the loose sleeve and cap at the chimney as well as the defective stucco covering. Side note: this was a very expensive home, just under 7 figures.

10. 3-5 inches of standing water in the driveway. Needless to say, there was water in the basement, part of which was finished. 

Thanks for reading and looking forward to some feedback!

Justin Eaton 

@Ben Zimbleman Nope! Just click the attend button on the top of this page and show up! 

Hey Guys! So the next meet up is set up for after the July 4th Holiday. The event will be sponsored by Ashmore Partners Private Real Estate Lending and BetterFlips.com Mentorship Program. @Anthony Susco and @Chris Anderson will be representing the sponsors respectively and giving a presentation where they will be going over a few case studies from recent projects. Combined, they have completed over 50 projects and been part of another 100+ projects so they will be offering some top level tips for those looking to get started investing in Real Estate or for those experienced investors looking to take the next step into making Real Estate Investing a career. 

In addition, we will be hosting this event at the 1st Colonial Community Bank corporate office, so it will be a good chance to meet the residential and commercial lenders at 1st Colonial. 

Hope to see you all there!

Justin 

Post: South Jersey Meet Up #5 w/ James Masotti

Justin EatonPosted
  • Engineer
  • Magnolia, NJ
  • Posts 133
  • Votes 135

Good Stuff! @James Masotti @Lauren C. 

I think the two scenarios that would be most applicable would be a fix and flip deal and a buy and hold deal using one or more private lenders. I would be most curious about the general return percentages and/or equity percentages given to private lenders for each of these. 

-I typed up like two additional paragraphs with other scenarios and question/topics regarding said scenarios but it sounded way too complicated and confusing when i read it back to myself so maybe ill save it for the meet up lol 

Post: Cash out refinancing 1st investment property

Justin EatonPosted
  • Engineer
  • Magnolia, NJ
  • Posts 133
  • Votes 135

@Odie Ayaga May have been someone in my company, wasn't me. 

To answer your question @Chanh Tran...Definitely get the unit rented ASAP. Commercial lenders will not necessarily focus only on the asset if its a single family property, they will definitely want to see that you're financially responsible and have a decent credit score. If the property appraises for $100k you will only be able to cash out at 75% LTV - $75,000, so maybe you can pay yourself back and pay off the credit card and have a couple grand extra. To be able to have a cash flowing rental without any cash in the deal is always a good thing so do anything you can to refi and rent it out. The cash flow equation is another story, make sure if you cash out at 75% LTV it will cash flow after the mortgage, taxes, insurance, and vacancy/repairs. If not then just sell it. I think @Anthony Susco knows a lender who can do a no-doc loan but the interest rate is higher, which would still be a good option if you're into it for nothing and it still cash flows. 

Post: Cash out refinancing 1st investment property

Justin EatonPosted
  • Engineer
  • Magnolia, NJ
  • Posts 133
  • Votes 135
Odie Ayaga haha really? Who for?

Post: Cash out refinancing 1st investment property

Justin EatonPosted
  • Engineer
  • Magnolia, NJ
  • Posts 133
  • Votes 135
Originally posted by @James Masotti:
Originally posted by @Odie Ayaga:

@Lauren C. didn't know you were with 1st Colonial as well

 @Justin Eaton - 1st Colonial is one of the banks we need for the panel. If you're doing real estate in South Jersey...they are the go to. 

Definitely, i just did a home inspection for Jerry Silvi who is another residential lender at 1st colonial, small world. But yea, i have three connects over there. Anyone can feel free to DM me and i will forward you their info. Two of them are residential lenders and one is a commercial lender.  

Post: South Jersey Meet Up #5 w/ James Masotti

Justin EatonPosted
  • Engineer
  • Magnolia, NJ
  • Posts 133
  • Votes 135

Hello all, @James Masotti will be giving a presentation about using private lenders to fund real estate investments. He will talk about his entry into real estate investing and how he has built a rental portfolio primarily through using private lending. He will also discuss some ways to structure deals with private lenders. Hope to see you all there!

@Anthony Susco from Ashmore Partners will be sponsoring the event and providing refreshments.

You can also join our Meet Up page here - Investor Group