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All Forum Posts by: Dominick Johnson

Dominick Johnson has started 6 posts and replied 122 times.

Post: My 100k house vs 100k in the S&P 500 (16 years later)

Dominick JohnsonPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • St. Louis, MO
  • Posts 125
  • Votes 124

The biggest factor being left out in this comparison is the huge tax advantages of real estate. With the use of cost segs, 1031 exchanges, and trusts you can pay very little taxes with real estate. The stock market does not offer that same benefit, as you either pay taxes now on the money you invest or later when you withdraw it.

Post: Becoming Your Own Bank?

Dominick JohnsonPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • St. Louis, MO
  • Posts 125
  • Votes 124
Quote from @Thomas Rutkowski:

Every dime you pay in, and all the growth, can be leveraged by the policy owner or will pass to the beneficiary when the insured dies. Hardly a 

Seriously guy? Even a 2 second google search can prove that’s a lie! So your response is to keep lying? Wow

Post: Becoming Your Own Bank?

Dominick JohnsonPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • St. Louis, MO
  • Posts 125
  • Votes 124
Quote from @Thomas Rutkowski:

The fact that you can put your money to work in 2 places at once more than makes up for the the fees of a maximum over-funded policy. The policy owner will build more wealth over time than if they use their own money directly. This will likely outperform an LOC against a stock portfolio because of the higher LTV on the policy loan as well.

That would be great…if it were true. In addition to high fees, the cost of the policy increase as the the policy holder gets older. Not to mention if you have a bad year and can’t afford to pay the premium you lose the entire policy (cash and life insurance). And the biggest con of this scam is that the cash value doesn’t get passed on to your beneficiaries when you die, only the death benefit. So all your hard earned investment you worked towards all your life goes back to the insurance company when you die….how is that a wise investment? 

Term life insurance literally costs pennies on the dollar for a policy. Life insurance as an investment is a bad scam and people know the facts now instead of blindly trusting their financial advisors who are actually salesmen for the life insurance policies.

Solo 401k on the other hand has no fees, can 100% be passed on to beneficiaries, and no minimum contribution requirements. Oh, and no financial scammers advising you to open a policy so they can get a commission off of you for life. 

Post: New to BRRRR and looking to acquire first property 2024

Dominick JohnsonPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • St. Louis, MO
  • Posts 125
  • Votes 124

I'll respond to your question since nobody else has. Your lender can be located wherever they want, does not matter where you invest/live.

Post: Becoming Your Own Bank?

Dominick JohnsonPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • St. Louis, MO
  • Posts 125
  • Votes 124
Quote from @Christopher Penaflor:

If an IUL is structured and funded the right way, you get a favorable rating and the advisor gets a commission from the insurance company, not from your policy, it can be a great option along side a solo 401k. You can pay the loan back without any specific time frame and the money borrowed from the plan continues to grow safe, productively and uninterrupted based on the chosen index option. 

There's pros and cons to both, which is why I believe both can work effectively together in someone's portfolio. What do you think @Dominick Johnson

To me it’s redundant to have both, unless you are maxing out the solo 401k and have no other options for retirement investing. The solo 401k would way outperform the IUL if invested in the exact same indexed funds due to all the fees in the IUL. The only advantage of the IUL is the floor, but that’s only appealing for people who have low risk tolerance and don’t mind the ceiling on returns.

Post: Becoming Your Own Bank?

Dominick JohnsonPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • St. Louis, MO
  • Posts 125
  • Votes 124
Quote from @Christopher Penaflor:

Hey Investors, 

If there was an opportunity to invest your money in let's say the S&P500, be able to take a loan from your own money while having that money you just took a loan from continue to grow with the S&P500, pay <5% interest on that loan and pay that loan back on your own terms, would that be a solid loan to invest into real estate?

Depends on the vehicle, there’s always a catch. If it’s a IUL policy you’re talking about then do your future self a favor and research the insane fees and all the cons that the financial advisor isn’t telling you about so they can get a commission from your policy. If it’s a solo 401k, yes that’s a great way to purchase investment priorities by taking a loan from your retirement and paying interest to yourself with no fees. The best part is you can invest the retirement funds in whatever you want, not just stocks. 

Sounds like a retirement fund either way. If it’s another vehicle then please explain.

Post: 2 properties in diff states under 1 LLC

Dominick JohnsonPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • St. Louis, MO
  • Posts 125
  • Votes 124

Use same LLC until I reach $1mm in value. Rinse and repeat.

Post: Rising interest rates make renting unrealistic?

Dominick JohnsonPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • St. Louis, MO
  • Posts 125
  • Votes 124

"Is rehab/rent a less realistic strategy now?"

Not at all, I'm still finding deals. It depends on your area. With interest rates high, less people can afford to buy, which increases the amount of renters. Now is the time to buy, not when the interest rates drop. Less competition with other buyers, and more people needing to rent. Then when interest rates drop, refinance and increase cashflow.

Post: Using Retirement Funds for REI Success Stories

Dominick JohnsonPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • St. Louis, MO
  • Posts 125
  • Votes 124
Quote from @Jeremiah Dunakin:

Not sure if this is what you’re asking but here goes. I have used my retirement 401k to get a loan to get funds for my first rental property. I paid for 20% down payment and rehab cost with it. I am paying loan back over 5 years. At the end of that 5 years I will have at least 20% of principle paid off. I was fortunate as I took my loan and then the market crashed so I would have lost the money anyway. Now I pay back weekly out of my w2 check. I plan on having it paid off 3 years early. I also plan on taking out a second loan as my plan allows. I know most will say that taking funds out will hamper growth in the market. I agree. That said next spring when I pay off my loan I will put an extra 400$ in pocket from paying off loan early. Couple that with the cash flow from rental and I couldn’t be happier


Hi Jeremiah, I appreciate your response. This isn't quite what I was asking about, as you took a loan from your employer sponsored 401k. The topic is about solo 401k, which is a retirement plan that business owners can do for alternative investing that doesn't have to be stocks. Best of luck with your REI investing!

Post: Using Retirement Funds for REI Success Stories

Dominick JohnsonPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • St. Louis, MO
  • Posts 125
  • Votes 124
Quote from @Bob Ebaugh:

You don't need an outside custodian, just a plan advisor.   The paperwork isn't that hard.  The cost difference wasn't comparable when I started.   It will take more of your time, but not that much if you are interested enough to follow and understand the rules.   

You do need a business, any ordinary business.  The business doesn't have to be profitable every year, although the strategy is amplified when you have business profits and can defer more taxes by investing those to your Solo K.   Probably the biggest hurdle is the business has to be owned by husband and/or wife with no employees.   Or I think perhaps also for 2 partners, but still no employees.  Our's is a very small part time consulting practice.  It's always been profitable, but only 5-30K per year depending on the work available and our interest in working.

We started our Solo K after retiring from ordinary full time jobs in 2013, consolidating funds from several prior employer sponsored 401K's and our personal IRA's. Within a year, we had 12 rental doors, mostly single family with a couple duplexes, all acquired with no financing. Since then, we traded one that was exceptionally hard to manage for one that wasn't, sold one to a tenant and replaced it, and sold one for distributions.

The Solo K has worked exceptionally well for us, here are some thoughts for those who might do something similar:

- We were exceptionally lucky with timing. One of the SFH's purchased in 2014 for $65K, just sold for $320K. While we do spend whenever needed for good maintenance, roofs (we've done all but 1 now), HVAC, paint, flooring etc...we have not made any significant improvements. This sold house came with a kitchen that would have made any chef in the 1950's happy, I'm sure the appliances have all been replaced, along with the flooring, but it wasn't improved. That was probably a lost opportunity, had the house been improved, it would have likely sold for $400K. We will be looking at doing this different in the future.

- Financing.  We have none.   This breaks the often stated rule about using OPM, other peoples money.   Very early on I looked real hard at doing just that.   But you can't use traditional financing, it must be non-recourse.   That raised financing costs from 3-4% to about 8%.   It's essentially hard money, unless you have a rich friend.  Afraid to ask what that number would be today, althogh the difference may be less now.  At the end of the day, our analysis showed that financing would basically eliminate the income part of the equation and profit would only come from appreciation.   In hindsight, another lost opportunity.   But...still happy.   There is far more risk with financing at those kind of rates, and after all, the plan held retirement savings we needed soon.  But the deal breaker was work.   We self manage, we didn't want to double or triple the amount of work necessary keep the operation running.   Sure if I could have known for sure, we would see 400% appreciation over 10 years, I would have done things different. But you can't. 

- Self management, to clarify, is basically advertising, showing property, selecting tenants, signing leases and hiring contractors to do repairs.   It's not actually making repairs or improvements. That's not allowed since it's considered a "contribution" to the value of the 401K. Using a property manager has potential, but does reduce income.   In our case, we were not happy with the gains seen in our traditional 401k holdings, and part of the transition to the Solo K, we wanted more hands on control of how our investments worked out.

- Finally, we went 100% invested residential rentals.   While it's a good problem to have, since the Solo K has done so well, we are spending more in retirement than originally planned.   Our mix of pre-tax to post-tax investments is out of balance.   For example, we had several years with really small amounts of taxable income, should we have distributed more out of the 401K earlier and reinvested post tax?  We didn't, and as a result our income tax bill has gone from near nothing to something we might have avoided.   There are many moving pieces here, Social Security timing, transition from ACA to Medicare, how much of your wealth is to be left as a legacy and the investment strategy that keeps your investments in large unseperable chunks.  There is a great tool to game alot of this out, I started too late to see all the benefit.   Take a look at MaxFi if this situation looks like it might impact you.


 Bob, thanks for the thorough response with your experience. I appreciate hearing what worked for you, and what you learned you could have done differently.