Originally posted by @Shone Freeman:
I live and have invested in San Jose, Ca. I have a number of properties (SFHs, duplexes, condos, and a commercial property) here which have appreciated nicely and now cash flow well after many years. I also have a SFH in Bakersfield which has not appreciated and is under water on paper-but does cash flow for me so I just keep hanging on. My goal was to add a property to my portfolio every other year, which I have been able to do.
Investing for appreciation has always been my strategy due to where I live. I didn't really need the cash flow due to my occupation and didn't mind a break even or slight negative in order to achieve the appreciation. I have been doing this for a long time, in one way or another since I am a construction contractor.
I still don't need cash flow to live on, but since it takes so much money to jump into another property here, and I think the market here is closer to the top than the bottom, I am looking at other areas. Also, I am reconsidering my strategy going forward.
I have been checking out Indianapolis, Texas, Cleveland, Kansas City among others. There are pros and cons to going out of state. Turnkey investing may solve much of the cons. But, it seems like by buying a turnkey, you run a good chance of buying a property at retail market price or higher, which means it may not appreciate for a long time, and unloading it could be painful.
I have about 150k saved up to invest at the moment and am looking for a good balance of CoC return and equity appreciation.
I would not plan to live off of cash flow from my investments for 10 or more years. So, what areas do you see that have good appreciation mixed with decent cash flows?
Are turnkey investments a good solution?
Would you recommend turnkey multi family, 4 plex or more?
Should I cash out refi some property here to leverage into another bigger deal?
I'm sort of stuck...
I'm having a hard time responding to this post only because I'm not sure of what you're main goal is at this point moving forward.
You said you don't need cash flow to live on, but didn't really mention what you're looking for exactly.
If you're looking to continue to build on your rental portfolios just to hold you over for the next 10 years or so.
You can always cash-out re-fi some of your current properties to help you keep investing where you're at.
If you're looking to expand out of state though, you gotta have a good strategy and know what you want to move into. I personally believe in the power of appreciation and cash-flow that residential multi-family units generate for long-term wealth. That's my thing and that's what I want to get into. Since I'm a young (25 year old), who has a lot more time that works well for me.
I'm looking to wholesale deals in Houston, Texas with a recently forged internship with a Houston, Texas investor. Also live in the South Central, PA area here in York County. There are a lot of good multi-family units in PA cities, that cash flow well but don't have as much appreciation. If you're looking for a mix of both, you'll probably be better off looking in Philadelphia or Pittsburgh for both appreciation and cash flow.
Anyway, shoot me a message if you're serious about investing in Pennsylvania or Texas and we can talk about what you're looking for and I can help you hunt down a deal that matches your buying criteria.